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"God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?

 
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"God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
Who says the universe was intelligently created? Just because the "strong nuclear force" that holds electrons in precision orbit around nuetrons, had to be mathetically calculated? Just because the force of gravity that holds the planets, in eternal orbit around suns had to be calculated? Ro.1:20 "His invisible qualities are percieved by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power."
NOPE ... probably just dumb, (pardon me,chug a lug), luck.
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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
Who says the universe was intelligently created? Just because the "strong nuclear force" that holds electrons in precision orbit around nuetrons, had to be mathetically calculated? Just because the force of gravity that holds the planets, in eternal orbit around suns had to be calculated? Ro.1:20 "His invisible qualities are percieved by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power."
NOPE ... probably just dumb, (pardon me,chug a lug), luck.
 Quoting: DGN


IF I WILL SPEAK TO YOU USING MY LANGUAGE...ALPHA-NUMERICS ...THEN I CAN GIVE YOU A SIMPLE INFORMATION OF THE DICE.

WHAT IS A DICE?

D=4
I=9
C=3
E=5

DICE = 4+9+3+5= 21 BUT
21 = 7+7+7 = +777+

IF I WILL COUNT THE DOTS IN A DICE
.
..
...
....
.....
......

1+2+3+4+5+6 = 21 BUT
21 = 7+7+7 = +777+

A DICE HAS A PAIR
......
.....
....
...
..
.
6+5+4+3+2+1=21 BUT
21 = 7+7+7 = +777+

+777+ A BLACK CROSS APPEARS BEFORE 777 AND ANOTHER WHITE CROSS APPEARS AFTER 777...

ADDING THE DICE AND THE DOTS = 21 + 21 + 21 = 63

WHAT IS 63???

ROMAN NUMBERS HID THE ANTI-CHRIST NUMBER IN THEIR FIRST SIX SYMBOLS OF THEIR NUMBERS = DCLXVI = 666

WHAT IS 63 IN ROMAN NUMBERS???

63 IS LXIII. COMPUTING USING ALPHA-NUMERICS

L=12
X=24
I=9
I=9
I=9

LXIII =12+24+9+9+9 = 63(SAME)

BUT WHAT IS THE CONNECTION OF LXIII AND 777?

LXIII CAN BE SEEN AT THE OPPOSITE SIDE AS IIIX7
IIIX7 = 111 X 7 = 777.

DICE = 21 =777

I AM 808
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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
When the improbable becomes probable certainly there is higher intelligence at work.

...and seeing as our very existence and life itself is very improbable that creative intelligence must be natural and I guarantee you that its not male.
"Humanity's suffering is pushing it to it's birth."
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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
Quotes of Albert Einstein...

1. I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details.

2. Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.

3. My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable
superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to
perceive with our frail and feeble mind.

4. The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more
certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie
through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but
through striving after rational knowledge.

5. Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes
convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit
vastly superior to that
of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.

6. The scientists' religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous
amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence
of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

7. There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is
only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order
lying behind the appearance.

8. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a
faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and
has forgotten the gift.

9. The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious; It is
the source of all true art and science.

10. We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of
course, powerful muscles, but no personality.

11. Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.

12. When the solution is simple, God is answering.

13. God does not play dice with the universe.

14. God is subtle but he is not malicious.

15. A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part
limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and
feelings as something separated from the rest-a kind of optical delusion
of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison, restricting us
to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to
us. Our task must be to free from this prison by widening our circle of
compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

16. Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for
survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.

17. The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow
creatures as
meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life.

18. Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

19. Only a life lived for others is a life worth while.

20. The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like
a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the
ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that
someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It
does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the
child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books---a
mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.

21. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its
own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he
contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous
structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a
little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity.

22. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person
with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that
has nothing to do with mysticism.

23. The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion.
Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom
this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives
in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for
us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most
radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor
faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the
true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank
myself among profoundly religious men.

24. The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is easier to
denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man.

25. True religion is real living; living with all one's soul, with all
one's goodness and righteousness.

26. Intelligence makes clear to us the interrelationship of means and
ends. But mere thinking cannot give us a sense of the ultimate and
fundamental ends. To make clear these fundamental ends and valuations
and to set them fast in the emotional life of the individual, seems to
me precisely the most important function which religion has to form in
the social life of man.
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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
Who says the universe was intelligently created? Just because the "strong nuclear force" that holds electrons in precision orbit around nuetrons, had to be mathetically calculated? Just because the force of gravity that holds the planets, in eternal orbit around suns had to be calculated? Ro.1:20 "His invisible qualities are percieved by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power."
NOPE ... probably just dumb, (pardon me,chug a lug), luck.


IF I WILL SPEAK TO YOU USING MY LANGUAGE...ALPHA-NUMERICS ...THEN I CAN GIVE YOU A SIMPLE INFORMATION OF THE DICE.

WHAT IS A DICE?

D=4
I=9
C=3
E=5

DICE = 4+9+3+5= 21 BUT
21 = 7+7+7 = +777+

IF I WILL COUNT THE DOTS IN A DICE
.
..
...
....
Hey thanks for the input, at last , the whole universe is starting to become clear, Mr.Spock, you can retire now.
.....
......

1+2+3+4+5+6 = 21 BUT
21 = 7+7+7 = +777+

A DICE HAS A PAIR
......
.....
....
...
..
.
6+5+4+3+2+1=21 BUT
21 = 7+7+7 = +777+

+777+ A BLACK CROSS APPEARS BEFORE 777 AND ANOTHER WHITE CROSS APPEARS AFTER 777...

ADDING THE DICE AND THE DOTS = 21 + 21 + 21 = 63

WHAT IS 63???

ROMAN NUMBERS HID THE ANTI-CHRIST NUMBER IN THEIR FIRST SIX SYMBOLS OF THEIR NUMBERS = DCLXVI = 666

WHAT IS 63 IN ROMAN NUMBERS???

63 IS LXIII. COMPUTING USING ALPHA-NUMERICS

L=12
X=24
I=9
I=9
I=9

LXIII =12+24+9+9+9 = 63(SAME)

BUT WHAT IS THE CONNECTION OF LXIII AND 777?

LXIII CAN BE SEEN AT THE OPPOSITE SIDE AS IIIX7
IIIX7 = 111 X 7 = 777.

DICE = 21 =777

I AM 808
 Quoting: rlc3764 492288

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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
When the improbable becomes probable certainly there is higher intelligence at work.

...and seeing as our very existence and life itself is very improbable that creative intelligence must be natural and I guarantee you that its not male.
 Quoting: Opener of the Way

Right, or it probably would have blowen up everything by now. Our creator, being made of dynamic energy, not matter, is not biological and has no gender like erathlings so they can repreduce.
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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
Do not think that we are separate from the creator for we are all one in the same... a whole in part.
"Humanity's suffering is pushing it to it's birth."
[link to www.youtube.com]

"All knowledge is vain except where there be work, and all work is empty except where there be love."

-Eugnostos


Perfection is an illusion and we shall always walk in it's shadow.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

The Flower of Life blooms through time.
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
Who says the universe was intelligently created? Just because the "strong nuclear force" that holds electrons in precision orbit around nuetrons, had to be mathetically calculated? Just because the force of gravity that holds the planets, in eternal orbit around suns had to be calculated? Ro.1:20 "His invisible qualities are percieved by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power."
NOPE ... probably just dumb, (pardon me,chug a lug), luck.


IF I WILL SPEAK TO YOU USING MY LANGUAGE...ALPHA-NUMERICS ...THEN I CAN GIVE YOU A SIMPLE INFORMATION OF THE DICE.

WHAT IS A DICE?

D=4
I=9
C=3
E=5

DICE = 4+9+3+5= 21 BUT
21 = 7+7+7 = +777+

IF I WILL COUNT THE DOTS IN A DICE
.
..
...
....
Hey thanks for the input, at last , the whole universe is starting to become clear, Mr.Spock, you can retire now.
.....
......

1+2+3+4+5+6 = 21 BUT
21 = 7+7+7 = +777+

A DICE HAS A PAIR
......
.....
....
...
..
.
6+5+4+3+2+1=21 BUT
21 = 7+7+7 = +777+

+777+ A BLACK CROSS APPEARS BEFORE 777 AND ANOTHER WHITE CROSS APPEARS AFTER 777...

ADDING THE DICE AND THE DOTS = 21 + 21 + 21 = 63

WHAT IS 63???

ROMAN NUMBERS HID THE ANTI-CHRIST NUMBER IN THEIR FIRST SIX SYMBOLS OF THEIR NUMBERS = DCLXVI = 666

WHAT IS 63 IN ROMAN NUMBERS???

63 IS LXIII. COMPUTING USING ALPHA-NUMERICS

L=12
X=24
I=9
I=9
I=9

LXIII =12+24+9+9+9 = 63(SAME)

BUT WHAT IS THE CONNECTION OF LXIII AND 777?

LXIII CAN BE SEEN AT THE OPPOSITE SIDE AS IIIX7
IIIX7 = 111 X 7 = 777.

DICE = 21 =777

I AM 808

 Quoting: DGN


OK, that's IT, I'm going back to my A,B,C's
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Do not think that we are separate from the creator for we are all one in the same... a whole in part.
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I think, "man is created in the image of God", but as a consequense of, global treason against the divine law of universal love, ... "all the world is lying in the power of the wicked one". 1Jo.5:19
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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
Who says the universe was intelligently created? Just because the "strong nuclear force" that holds electrons in precision orbit around nuetrons, had to be mathetically calculated? Just because the force of gravity that holds the planets, in eternal orbit around suns had to be calculated? Ro.1:20 "His invisible qualities are percieved by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power."
NOPE ... probably just dumb, (pardon me,chug a lug), luck.
 Quoting: DGN


You quoted one of my favorite verses. Another, which is much like it is:

“The heavens declare the Glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork. Day unto day uttered speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where the voice is not heard. Their line has gone out through ll the earth, and their words to the end of the world” (Psalms 19:1-4).

I am a scientist at heart, and I have always felt that science is the study of nature, and nature, in turn, is the way God does things; therefore, science is simply the study of how God does things. By observing the Creation, we know much about the Creator.

I enjoyed your post. Thanks.
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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
Who says the universe was intelligently created? Just because the "strong nuclear force" that holds electrons in precision orbit around nuetrons, had to be mathetically calculated? Just because the force of gravity that holds the planets, in eternal orbit around suns had to be calculated? Ro.1:20 "His invisible qualities are percieved by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power."
NOPE ... probably just dumb, (pardon me,chug a lug), luck.


You quoted one of my favorite verses. Another, which is much like it is:

“The heavens declare the Glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork. Day unto day uttered speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where the voice is not heard. Their line has gone out through ll the earth, and their words to the end of the world” (Psalms 19:1-4).

I am a scientist at heart, and I have always felt that science is the study of nature, and nature, in turn, is the way God does things; therefore, science is simply the study of how God does things. By observing the Creation, we know much about the Creator.

I enjoyed your post. Thanks.
 Quoting: The Professor 385883

Professor, may I presume to quote another of your favorite verses; "his invisible qualities are perceived by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power". Ro.1:20 If man would redirect his thinking from religious (and all it's selfrighteous vanity), to spiritual thinking, our scientific acheivements wouldn't be weapons to destroy the ecosystem, but tools to beautify the earth for everyone's benefit. Ps.37:11
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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
Quotes of Albert Einstein...

1. I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details.

2. Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.

3. My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable
superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to
perceive with our frail and feeble mind.

4. The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more
certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie
through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but
through striving after rational knowledge.

5. Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes
convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit
vastly superior to that
of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.

6. The scientists' religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous
amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence
of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

7. There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is
only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order
lying behind the appearance.

8. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a
faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and
has forgotten the gift.

9. The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious; It is
the source of all true art and science.

10. We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of
course, powerful muscles, but no personality.

11. Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.

12. When the solution is simple, God is answering.

13. God does not play dice with the universe.

14. God is subtle but he is not malicious.

15. A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part
limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and
feelings as something separated from the rest-a kind of optical delusion
of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison, restricting us
to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to
us. Our task must be to free from this prison by widening our circle of
compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

16. Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for
survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.

17. The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow
creatures as
meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life.

18. Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

19. Only a life lived for others is a life worth while.

20. The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like
a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the
ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that
someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It
does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the
child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books---a
mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.

21. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its
own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he
contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous
structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a
little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity.

22. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person
with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that
has nothing to do with mysticism.

23. The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion.
Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom
this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives
in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for
us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most
radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor
faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the
true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank
myself among profoundly religious men.

24. The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is easier to
denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man.

25. True religion is real living; living with all one's soul, with all
one's goodness and righteousness.

26. Intelligence makes clear to us the interrelationship of means and
ends. But mere thinking cannot give us a sense of the ultimate and
fundamental ends. To make clear these fundamental ends and valuations
and to set them fast in the emotional life of the individual, seems to
me precisely the most important function which religion has to form in
the social life of man.
 Quoting: gooderboy

Solomon, is this you, cause I'm reading wisdom equalivent to your inspired Proverbs, and it's REALLY refreshing.
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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
Who says the universe was intelligently created? Just because the "strong nuclear force" that holds electrons in precision orbit around nuetrons, had to be mathetically calculated? Just because the force of gravity that holds the planets, in eternal orbit around suns had to be calculated? Ro.1:20 "His invisible qualities are percieved by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power."
NOPE ... probably just dumb, (pardon me,chug a lug), luck.


You quoted one of my favorite verses. Another, which is much like it is:

“The heavens declare the Glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork. Day unto day uttered speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where the voice is not heard. Their line has gone out through ll the earth, and their words to the end of the world” (Psalms 19:1-4).

I am a scientist at heart, and I have always felt that science is the study of nature, and nature, in turn, is the way God does things; therefore, science is simply the study of how God does things. By observing the Creation, we know much about the Creator.

I enjoyed your post. Thanks.

Professor, may I presume to quote another of your favorite verses; "his invisible qualities are perceived by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power". Ro.1:20 If man would redirect his thinking from religious (and all it's selfrighteous vanity), to spiritual thinking, our scientific acheivements wouldn't be weapons to destroy the ecosystem, but tools to beautify the earth for everyone's benefit. Ps.37:11
 Quoting: DGN

It sounds like your saying "you may be able to think spiritually without thinking scientificaly, but, you can't think scientifically, without thinking scientifically". I hope that came out right. Idol1
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When the improbable becomes probable certainly there is higher intelligence at work.

...and seeing as our very existence and life itself is very improbable that creative intelligence must be natural and I guarantee you that its not male.
 Quoting: Opener of the Way

Thats right. Our creator designed us with all divine qualities, to take care of each other, and the earth.
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Who says the universe was intelligently created? Just because the "strong nuclear force" that holds electrons in precision orbit around nuetrons, had to be mathetically calculated? Just because the force of gravity that holds the planets, in eternal orbit around suns had to be calculated? Ro.1:20 "His invisible qualities are percieved by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power."
NOPE ... probably just dumb, (pardon me,chug a lug), luck.
 Quoting: DGN


Ro?

OR is that

Idol1 1:20?
Read - for thy sustainer is the most bountiful one, who has taught the use of the pen, taught man what he did not know!
Nay verily man becomes grossly overweening, whenever he believes himself to be self-sufficient: for behold unto thy sustainer all must return.

Quran 96:3-8

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Re: "God does not play dice with the universe", oh really now, what does Einstein know about physics?
When the improbable becomes probable certainly there is higher intelligence at work.

...and seeing as our very existence and life itself is very improbable that creative intelligence must be natural and I guarantee you that its not male.
 Quoting: Opener of the Way

Right, God is composed of "dynamic energy" and is not biological, so has no gender.
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for that matter what does he know about psy-ops?

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What if God was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us....
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Do not think that we are separate from the creator for we are all one in the same... a whole in part.
 Quoting: Opener of the Way

We have the invitation to be "fitly united in one mind, along one one line of thought" (1Cor1:10) to fulfill the divine master plan and make global Eden, but this world declined and built the "military industrial complex" instead. We've isolated our ownselves of oue own free will.
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Quotes of Albert Einstein...

1. I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details.

2. Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.

3. My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable
superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to
perceive with our frail and feeble mind.

4. The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more
certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie
through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but
through striving after rational knowledge.

5. Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes
convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit
vastly superior to that
of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.

6. The scientists' religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous
amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence
of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

7. There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is
only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order
lying behind the appearance.

8. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a
faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and
has forgotten the gift.

9. The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious; It is
the source of all true art and science.

10. We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of
course, powerful muscles, but no personality.

11. Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.

12. When the solution is simple, God is answering.

13. God does not play dice with the universe.

14. God is subtle but he is not malicious.

15. A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part
limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and
feelings as something separated from the rest-a kind of optical delusion
of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison, restricting us
to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to
us. Our task must be to free from this prison by widening our circle of
compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

16. Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for
survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.

17. The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow
creatures as
meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life.

18. Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

19. Only a life lived for others is a life worth while.

20. The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like
a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the
ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that
someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It
does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the
child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books---a
mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.

21. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its
own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he
contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous
structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a
little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity.

22. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person
with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that
has nothing to do with mysticism.

23. The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion.
Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom
this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives
in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for
us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most
radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor
faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the
true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank
myself among profoundly religious men.

24. The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is easier to
denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man.

25. True religion is real living; living with all one's soul, with all
one's goodness and righteousness.

26. Intelligence makes clear to us the interrelationship of means and
ends. But mere thinking cannot give us a sense of the ultimate and
fundamental ends. To make clear these fundamental ends and valuations
and to set them fast in the emotional life of the individual, seems to
me precisely the most important function which religion has to form in
the social life of man.
 Quoting: gooderboy


I like #26. Religion fails because it is in the business of selling whatever selfrighteous vanity the market is buying. Spirituallity on the other hand is free Mt10:8 "All scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for setting things straight, for disciplineing in righteousness... 2Ti3:16
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Be very careful with the doctrine of the Jehovah's Witness.

Here is just some of what they believe:



-Only JWs prayers are heard by God.

-Only a special group of 144,000 people interpret Scripture

-They call themselves "The only true Christians".


-They deny that Jesus is God in the flesh.

-Jesus died on a upright torture stake and not a cross.
(The cross is shunned as a “pagan” symbol.)

-They believe Jesus and Michael the Archangel are the Same Person.

-God only speaks through the "Governing Body" in Brooklyn, New York.


-They are forbidden to interpret the Bible without Watchtower literature to explain it.

-They can never question what is printed in Watchtower literature.

-They are forbidden to read Christian literature.
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Who says the universe was intelligently created? Just because the "strong nuclear force" that holds electrons in precision orbit around nuetrons, had to be mathetically calculated? Just because the force of gravity that holds the planets, in eternal orbit around suns had to be calculated? Ro.1:20 "His invisible qualities are percieved by the things made, even his eternal Godship and power."
NOPE ... probably just dumb, (pardon me,chug a lug), luck.
 Quoting: DGN



einstein was a fucking fake


typical of todays world though

build on LIES<<,


fucking garbage
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What if God was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 489994

The "god of this system of things" (2Co4:4) is. That's why we're what we are, on a self destructive count down to an extinction level event. Lemmens over the cliff. Mt24:21
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Quotes of Albert Einstein...

1. I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details.

2. Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.

3. My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable
superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to
perceive with our frail and feeble mind.

4. The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more
certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie
through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but
through striving after rational knowledge.

5. Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes
convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit
vastly superior to that
of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.

6. The scientists' religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous
amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence
of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

7. There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is
only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order
lying behind the appearance.

8. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a
faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and
has forgotten the gift.

9. The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious; It is
the source of all true art and science.

10. We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of
course, powerful muscles, but no personality.

11. Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.

12. When the solution is simple, God is answering.

13. God does not play dice with the universe.

14. God is subtle but he is not malicious.

15. A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part
limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and
feelings as something separated from the rest-a kind of optical delusion
of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison, restricting us
to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to
us. Our task must be to free from this prison by widening our circle of
compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

16. Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for
survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.

17. The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow
creatures as
meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life.

18. Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

19. Only a life lived for others is a life worth while.

20. The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like
a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the
ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that
someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It
does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the
child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books---a
mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.

21. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its
own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he
contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous
structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a
little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity.

22. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person
with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that
has nothing to do with mysticism.

23. The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion.
Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom
this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives
in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for
us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most
radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor
faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the
true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank
myself among profoundly religious men.

24. The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is easier to
denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man.

25. True religion is real living; living with all one's soul, with all
one's goodness and righteousness.

26. Intelligence makes clear to us the interrelationship of means and
ends. But mere thinking cannot give us a sense of the ultimate and
fundamental ends. To make clear these fundamental ends and valuations
and to set them fast in the emotional life of the individual, seems to
me precisely the most important function which religion has to form in
the social life of man.

Solomon, is this you, cause I'm reading wisdom equalivent to your inspired Proverbs, and it's REALLY refreshing.
 Quoting: DGN

Einsrein's number 4: "and this is what I continue praying that your love may abound more and more and with an accurate knowledge and full discrenment, that you may be sure of the more important things". Php1:9 :Idol1:
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Quotes of Albert Einstein...

1. I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details.

2. Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.

3. My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable
superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to
perceive with our frail and feeble mind.

4. The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more
certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie
through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but
through striving after rational knowledge.

5. Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes
convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit
vastly superior to that
of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.

6. The scientists' religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous
amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence
of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

7. There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is
only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order
lying behind the appearance.

8. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a
faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and
has forgotten the gift.

9. The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious; It is
the source of all true art and science.

10. We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of
course, powerful muscles, but no personality.

11. Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.

12. When the solution is simple, God is answering.

13. God does not play dice with the universe.

14. God is subtle but he is not malicious.

15. A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part
limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and
feelings as something separated from the rest-a kind of optical delusion
of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison, restricting us
to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to
us. Our task must be to free from this prison by widening our circle of
compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

16. Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for
survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.

17. The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow
creatures as
meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life.

18. Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

19. Only a life lived for others is a life worth while.

20. The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like
a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the
ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that
someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It
does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the
child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books---a
mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.

21. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its
own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he
contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous
structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a
little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity.

22. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person
with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that
has nothing to do with mysticism.

23. The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion.
Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom
this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives
in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for
us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most
radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor
faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the
true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank
myself among profoundly religious men.

24. The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is easier to
denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man.

25. True religion is real living; living with all one's soul, with all
one's goodness and righteousness.

26. Intelligence makes clear to us the interrelationship of means and
ends. But mere thinking cannot give us a sense of the ultimate and
fundamental ends. To make clear these fundamental ends and valuations
and to set them fast in the emotional life of the individual, seems to
me precisely the most important function which religion has to form in
the social life of man.

Solomon, is this you, cause I'm reading wisdom equalivent to your inspired Proverbs, and it's REALLY refreshing.
 Quoting: DGN

Einsrein's number 4: "and this is what I continue praying that your love may abound more and more and with an accurate knowledge and full discrenment, that you may be sure of the more important things". Php1:9 :Idol1:
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Quotes of Albert Einstein...

1. I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details.

2. Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.

3. My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable
superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to
perceive with our frail and feeble mind.

4. The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more
certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie
through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but
through striving after rational knowledge.

5. Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes
convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit
vastly superior to that
of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.

6. The scientists' religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous
amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence
of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

7. There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is
only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order
lying behind the appearance.

8. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a
faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and
has forgotten the gift.

9. The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious; It is
the source of all true art and science.

10. We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of
course, powerful muscles, but no personality.

11. Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.

12. When the solution is simple, God is answering.

13. God does not play dice with the universe.

14. God is subtle but he is not malicious.

15. A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part
limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and
feelings as something separated from the rest-a kind of optical delusion
of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison, restricting us
to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to
us. Our task must be to free from this prison by widening our circle of
compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

16. Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for
survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.

17. The man who regards his own life and that of his fellow
creatures as
meaningless is not merely unfortunate but almost disqualified for life.

18. Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

19. Only a life lived for others is a life worth while.

20. The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like
a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the
ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that
someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It
does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the
child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books---a
mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.

21. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its
own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he
contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous
structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a
little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity.

22. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person
with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that
has nothing to do with mysticism.

23. The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion.
Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom
this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives
in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for
us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most
radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor
faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the
true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank
myself among profoundly religious men.

24. The real problem is in the hearts and minds of men. It is easier to
denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man.

25. True religion is real living; living with all one's soul, with all
one's goodness and righteousness.

26. Intelligence makes clear to us the interrelationship of means and
ends. But mere thinking cannot give us a sense of the ultimate and
fundamental ends. To make clear these fundamental ends and valuations
and to set them fast in the emotional life of the individual, seems to
me precisely the most important function which religion has to form in
the social life of man.
 Quoting: gooderboy


#22 "What I see in nature is magnificant structure". We can see the definition of the structure at Ps139:16, "in your book all my parts were down in writing", here Jehovah reveals his DNA equations. Idol1
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When the improbable becomes probable certainly there is higher intelligence at work.

...and seeing as our very existence and life itself is very improbable that creative intelligence must be natural and I guarantee you that its not male.
 Quoting: Opener of the Way

Right, God is not male, or female.... "Who has created these things? It is the One who is bringing forth the army of them even by number, all of whom he calls even by name. Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power, not one [of them] is missing." Isa40:26
Only bio creatures have gender, not the divine.
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Spiritual Physics
There seems to be a common universal reaction when death knocks on a persons door..

"I should have loved ,been kinder and appreciated more"

Death brings out the best equation to show people the best path to living...
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Spiritual Physics
There seems to be a common universal reaction when death knocks on a persons door..

"I should have loved ,been kinder and appreciated more"

Death brings out the best equation to show people the best path to living...
 Quoting: Angel Fire

K... that's universally excellant. The intergalitaclly coveted, "THIS BUD'S FOR" award, per thread is here by honorably bestowed upon.... Angel Fire! 5a
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What do you know about history - NOTHING laugh
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What do you know about history - NOTHING laugh
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I like that, I'm with ya... but what do we all need to know about the future, for survival?
"for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.  In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." Mt24;21
Knock knock, anyone home?





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