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The Palin Controversies Keep Coming -- She Was Member Of Pro-Secession Alaska Party

 
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Thank you to 324300 for the tip on this news.

So much for McCain's vetting of this woman.

The Palin Controversies Keep Coming -- She Was Member Of Pro-Secession Alaska Party
Posted by Ashish on 09.01.2008

Palin was a member of a Alaskan party that pushed for Alaska to secede from U.S.

ABC News is reporting that Sarah Palin and her husband were members of the Alaskan Independence Party as recently as 1994 and that she took part in the party's convention THIS YEAR (video below). This is a party that has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of Alaska can secede from the United States and openly tells their members to "infiltrate" the Republican and Democratic parties as a way to push the Alaska secession issue. Their party motto is "Alaska First -- Alaska Always," a direct contrast to McCain's campaign motto of "Country First." Most of the people in the party want Alaska to secede from the United States, though the official line from the party is that they just want Alaskans to be allowed to vote on whether to stay in the U.S. or to secede.

AIP Chairman Lynette Clark says that both Palin and her husband were members in 1994 and that both attended the party's 1994 statewide convention. Clark says that the main goal of the party is to challenge the legality of Alaska's statehood. Clark adds that Palin switched to the Republican party in 1996 when she decided to run for Mayor of Wasilla.

AIP's vice chairman, Dexter Carter, says that AIP members should try to "infiltrate" the major two political parties and then push the issue of Alaskan independence.

Below is a video of Palin addressing the AIP convention earlier THIS YEAR and telling them to "keep up the good work." And at that convention, AIP Vice Chair George Clark said that Palin "was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town" and that she remains "pretty well sympathetic to her former membership."

I think Josh Marshall makes a very good point. Whether these stories really matter in the longterm or not isn't the issue. The issue here is that John McCain, after meeting this woman only once and not even vetting her properly, has put her in position to perhaps be the next Vice President, and by extension, President, of the United States.

Here's video of Palin addressing this year's AIP convention.



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That will win her the south, Texas, Montana, and Virgina, at least!
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Yep many of the states rights conservatives will love this. I do!
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LOL, this is getting better by the second!
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More proof that McCain is feeble-minded. He can't be expected to make the major decisions that a President must make. The convention MUST dump McCain and Palin both.
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THANKS!

Me and all my Puerto Rican friends are voting for her, NOW!!!

WAHOOO!

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How is dismantling the United States considered Pro-American! You conservative types are nuts!

This is a militant Anti-American political party.
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How is dismantling the United States considered Pro-American! You conservative types are nuts!

This is a militant Anti-American political party.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 324300

States rights... Something you liberals know nothing about.
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McCain's poor judgement will be the deciding factor for the vote in November.

One cannot ignore the incredible risk he places our country in by choosing this inexperienced woman as his VP.

This is, btw, not a laughing matter.

I am literally hypnotized by the ineptitude of the vetting team and by the fact that tptb in the Republican hierarchy allowed and perhaps pushed for Palin.

This was a bungled, stupid mistake.

One that will cost them the White House.

And, THEY know it.
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That will win her the south, Texas, Montana, and Virgina, at least!
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exactly...the south is gonna do it again lmao
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polly is the dims version of pacnw guy lmao
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RON PAUL! RON PAUL!
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How is dismantling the United States considered Pro-American! You conservative types are nuts!

This is a militant Anti-American political party.

States rights... Something you liberals know nothing about.
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You are missing the point of AIP then! It is not about states rights. They don't want Alaska to be a state period. So why would they care about states rights? They want to secede from the Union. Their entire goal is to make Alaska an autonomous country seperate from the United State. Their whole goal is to make Alaska financially self-sufficient so that it can seperate.
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This group may very well be for states rights, but secession from the union is a dayum serious matter and to put oneself out front as Palin did in the video, man, she should be aware that the group will be scrutinized ad nauseum.

You think there are alot of threads on Palin now? Just wait until the American public gets done vetting the group.

How is dismantling the United States considered Pro-American! You conservative types are nuts!

This is a militant Anti-American political party.

States rights... Something you liberals know nothing about.
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She just won me over! Hopefully she will now help all 49 states Seceed from the District of Columbia and New York.
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"Alaska Free From the Center to the Sea!"

"Don't Tread on Me Snow Shoes!"

"54 40 or Flight!"

"The Northwest Will Rise Again!"

"Bears of Grizzly
Bears of Polar
Alaska leaves!
You can all go solar!"

"Alaskan Rights: Fight Us at Your Frozen Footed Peril!"

"Alaska is Free Don't Juneau?!"
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This was a bungled, stupid mistake.

One that will cost them the White House.

And, THEY know it.
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It was bringing McCain in from the wilderness that cost them the Whitehouse.
Palin I would vote for... al MacCant will draw is the built-in partizan shill vote.
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How is dismantling the United States considered Pro-American! You conservative types are nuts!

This is a militant Anti-American political party.

States rights... Something you liberals know nothing about.


You are missing the point of AIP then! It is not about states rights. They don't want Alaska to be a state period. So why would they care about states rights? They want to secede from the Union. Their entire goal is to make Alaska an autonomous country seperate from the United State. Their whole goal is to make Alaska financially self-sufficient so that it can seperate.
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Perhaps this is WHY they picked her to have her not back secession as the NEXT step is asking for passports from the neighboring country, Russia, so this gives Alaska autonomy with protection of a fellow border country being their peace keeper force.

Remember Russia is large and has many borders including Alaska to scoot down and help all seceeding states wanting to opt out for autonomy but friendship deals with fellow states and countries all wanting to opt out of the NWO Bush empire.
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I am extremely curious as to how the R's will spin this news.

There is no middle ground on this one, folks.
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I am extremely curious as to how the R's will spin this news.

There is no middle ground on this one, folks.
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Polly as of right now I agree there are very serious issues with Palin. She needs to voluntarily decline the nomination.

However, you are still blind and cannot see the flaws and critical issues with Obama's character or his ideology.

That is where you fail in all your arguments.
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I am extremely curious as to how the R's will spin this news.

There is no middle ground on this one, folks.
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Look, she supported the constitution, she admitted the Iraq war was for oil, she supported Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan before him who were both about getting rid of this New World Order, IRS. Federal Reserve, The Republicans have a huge conservative base that is anti-neocon. She is realing them back in.
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That will win her the south, Texas, Montana, and Virgina, at least!
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You fergot Vermont and New Hampshire.
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A.C., if there is anything I am not, I am not blind.

I am not 100% behind Obama, nor have I ever declared that I will indeed vote for him.

I will, however, continue to fight that group, and it's not all the Republicans I am fighting, which continues to field candidates who are no different from the resident in public housing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

If I fail in arguments, I'll live to post another thread. Frankly, I don't care if a thread is 20 pages or one as long as people read and most importantly, think for themselves.

We offer endless opportunities, A.C., to broaden the horizons of many people at GLP, and it's up to the reader to decide what is wheat and what is chaff.

Thank you for your input.



I am extremely curious as to how the R's will spin this news.

There is no middle ground on this one, folks.


Polly as of right now I agree there are very serious issues with Palin. She needs to voluntarily decline the nomination.

However, you are still blind and cannot see the flaws and critical issues with Obama's character or his ideology.

That is where you fail in all your arguments.
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The R's are getting their asses kicked over this on Larry King.
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That will win her the south, Texas, Montana, and Virgina, at least!
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That totally clenches Oklahoma for her!
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This is all really about a people's self determination, isn't it? She's Catholic. The Catholic church has stood behing the illegal immigrants in the USA and many think the Catholic church is behind even groups like LaRaza and the Atzlan groups. Then there is the question of the recent LaKota appeal for "succession".

THere have been since 1959 many questions about the legality of the ways in which both Hawawii and Alaska became states of the union. ANd these questions have fueled the great effort in Puerto Rice to keep it from becoming the 51st State.

There is very much more here at play than first meets the eye.

Worldwide, nations are being Balkanized, split into smaller "nations", usually in such a fashion that none of them could every really have any hope of become self sufficient because they lack the natural resources or the argriculture to do so, or shear land area size.

There is much much more going on here. Much more.

This IS a conspirarcy theory site, so let's get busy THINKING of how we are all being played ...
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"Alaska Free From the Center to the Sea!"

"Don't Tread on Me Snow Shoes!"

"54 40 or Flight!"

"The Northwest Will Rise Again!"

"Bears of Grizzly
Bears of Polar
Alaska leaves!
You can all go solar!"

"Alaskan Rights: Fight Us at Your Frozen Footed Peril!"

"Alaska is Free Don't Juneau?!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495496

Catchy slogans. I especially like the "Alaska is Free Don't Juneau?!" Now that's just....art!

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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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polly, check this out, at the bottom is when the domain names were registered:

Hummmm.....

Domain Name: mccainpalin.com

Registrant Contact:
mccainpalin.com Private Registrant [email protected]
DreamHost Web Hosting
417 Associated Rd #324
Brea, CA 92821
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+1.2139471032

Administrative Contact:
mccainpalin.com Private Registrant [email protected]
DreamHost Web Hosting
417 Associated Rd #324
Brea, CA 92821
US
+1.2139471032

Technical Contact:
mccainpalin.com Private Registrant [email protected]
DreamHost Web Hosting
417 Associated Rd #324
Brea, CA 92821
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+1.2139471032

Billing Contact:
mccainpalin.com Private Registrant [email protected]
DreamHost Web Hosting
417 Associated Rd #324
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+1.2139471032

Record created on 2008-01-29 19:08:47.


now how can that be? she was a last minute choice, or was she?
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polly, check this out, at the bottom is when the domain names were registered:

Hummmm.....

Domain Name: mccainpalin.com

Registrant Contact:
mccainpalin.com Private Registrant [email protected]
DreamHost Web Hosting
417 Associated Rd #324
Brea, CA 92821
US
+1.2139471032

Administrative Contact:
mccainpalin.com Private Registrant [email protected]
DreamHost Web Hosting
417 Associated Rd #324
Brea, CA 92821
US
+1.2139471032

Technical Contact:
mccainpalin.com Private Registrant [email protected]
DreamHost Web Hosting
417 Associated Rd #324
Brea, CA 92821
US
+1.2139471032

Billing Contact:
mccainpalin.com Private Registrant [email protected]
DreamHost Web Hosting
417 Associated Rd #324
Brea, CA 92821
US
+1.2139471032

Record created on 2008-01-29 19:08:47.


now how can that be? she was a last minute choice, or was she?
 Quoting: malu

I caught that in the middle of August but not to the depth you dug up...great job!!
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The federal government should live with the fear and respect of this power in any of the states hands to be executed at any time. The power is the peoples. A lot of Alaskan's know that. We also know what community is up here also. Every citizen of this country should defend their state above everything else, with one exception. And that would be when they are part of the federal government that their role requires to put their goals and ideals to "country first". Just because a person has those convictions for their state does not mean that they can't apply them to their country. It would be our new governors job to ensure that the federal goverment represented Alaska's interests to the best of it's ability (enough to keep us a state...). Palins job would be to put that same idealogy of protecting Alaska's rights towards our whole country. Do I think she could do that? I have no clue but so far the best dirt that might have had any truth to me is the firing thing. And if thats the worse she has done to abuse power then she's a good step ahead of most of the fed.
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This is all really about a people's self determination, isn't it? She's Catholic. The Catholic church has stood behing the illegal immigrants in the USA and many think the Catholic church is behind even groups like LaRaza and the Atzlan groups. Then there is the question of the recent LaKota appeal for "succession".

THere have been since 1959 many questions about the legality of the ways in which both Hawawii and Alaska became states of the union. ANd these questions have fueled the great effort in Puerto Rice to keep it from becoming the 51st State.

There is very much more here at play than first meets the eye.

Worldwide, nations are being Balkanized, split into smaller "nations", usually in such a fashion that none of them could every really have any hope of become self sufficient because they lack the natural resources or the argriculture to do so, or shear land area size.

There is much much more going on here. Much more.

This IS a conspirarcy theory site, so let's get busy THINKING of how we are all being played ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 390756

She's not Catholic. Joe Biden is Catholic.





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