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Vladimir Putin Vs. nwo

 
Skipper1975  (OP)

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he's just a big pussycat.

bless his little cotton socks.
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lol

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09/04/2008 10:53 AM
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[link to www.informationclearinghouse.info]

This page has a CNN international interview with Putin, about half an hour long. Its in Russian with subtitles. Putin is no lightweight...this guy is seriously sharp, and quite the nationalist. Watch the interview to get a little more insight into the man's thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473581


Love this part when he gives the interviewer a history lesson:

Vladimir Putin: Of course not. What is more, we did not seek such conflicts and do not want them in the future.

That this conflict has taken place -- that it broke out nevertheless -- is only due to the fact that no one had heeded our concerns.

More generally, Matthew, I will say this: We must take a broader view of this conflict.

I think both you and your -- our -- viewers today will be interested to learn a little more about the history of relations between the peoples and ethnic groups in this regions of the world. Because people know little or nothing about it.

If you think that this is unimportant, you may cut it from the program. Don't hesitate, I wouldn't mind.


But I would like to recall that all these state entities, each in its own time, voluntarily integrated into the Russian Empire. Back in the mid-18th century, in 1745-1747, Ossetia was the first to become part of the Russian Empire. At that time, it was a united entity; North and South Ossetia were one state.

In 1801, if my memory serves me, Georgia itself, which was under some pressure from the Ottoman Empire, voluntarily became part of the Russian Empire.

It was only 12 years later, in 1812, that Abkhazia became part of the Russian Empire. Until that time, it had remained an independent state, an independent principality.

It was only in the mid-19th century that the decision was taken to incorporate South Ossetia into the Tiflis province. Within a common state, the matter was regarded as not very important. But I can assure you that subsequent years showed that the Ossetians did not much like it. However, de facto they were put by the tsar's central government under the jurisdiction of what is now Georgia.

When, after World War I, the Russian Empire broke up, Georgia declared its own state while Ossetia opted for staying within Russia; this happened right after the events of 1917.

In 1918, as a result of this, Georgia conducted a rather brutal punitive operation there, and in 1921, it repeated it.

When the Soviet Union was formed, these territories, by Stalin's decision, were definitively given to Georgia. As you know, Stalin was ethnically Georgian.

Therefore, those who insist that those territories must continue to belong to Georgia are Stalinists: They defend the decision of Josef Vissarionovich Stalin.

Yet, whatever has been happening recently and whatever the motives of those involved in the conflict, there is no doubt that all that we are witnessing now is a tragedy.

For us, it is a special tragedy, because during the many years that we were living together the Georgian culture -- the Georgian people being a nation of ancient culture -- became, without a doubt, a part of the multinational culture of Russia.

There is even a tinge of civil war in this for us, though of course Georgia is an independent state, no doubt about it. We have never infringed on the sovereignty of Georgia and have no intention of doing so in the future. And yet, considering the fact that almost a million, even more than a million Georgians have moved here, we have special spiritual links with that country and its people. For us, this is a special tragedy.

And, I assure you, while mourning the Russian soldiers who died, and above all the innocent civilians, many here in Russia are also mourning the Georgians who died.

The responsibility for the loss of life rests squarely with the present Georgian leadership, which dared to take these criminal actions.

I apologize for the long monologue; I felt it would be of interest.


He also notes that the U.S. is very adept at manipulating the public opinion via the media.....notes, that he finds it very undemocratic.

Very sharp guy.
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09/04/2008 10:56 AM
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next to chuck norris...putin is my hero.
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[link to www.informationclearinghouse.info]

This page has a CNN international interview with Putin, about half an hour long. Its in Russian with subtitles. Putin is no lightweight...this guy is seriously sharp, and quite the nationalist. Watch the interview to get a little more insight into the man's thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473581


You should also note the changes in the tenor of his interviews from 2001-present. He has become more verbally agile in recent years in inserting the information that he wants to disseminate into the interview. He really knows how to catch them off guard. His Time 2007 interview was almost seething with agitation. Frankly, I think he feels he has tried to play by geopolitical rules long enough.....with no cooperation from western leadership. Pointing missle shields at his country was the last straw.......now, he is just going to do what is best for Russia ands screw everyone else.
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09/04/2008 11:09 AM
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Putin's hot.
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in a one on one fight putin could easily kick dumbya's ass.
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You should also note the changes in the tenor of his interviews from 2001-present. He has become more verbally agile in recent years in inserting the information that he wants to disseminate into the interview. He really knows how to catch them off guard. His Time 2007 interview was almost seething with agitation. Frankly, I think he feels he has tried to play by geopolitical rules long enough.....with no cooperation from western leadership. Pointing missle shields at his country was the last straw.......now, he is just going to do what is best for Russia ands screw everyone else.
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Very well put!
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09/04/2008 11:29 AM
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Yeah putin is the good guy?????????????? bsflag


People REALLY think Putin's a hero?
Please don't get me laughing because once I start I don't stop for quite a while.
Then again go ahead, I haven't laughed for a long time.


He may not be a good guy, but the Zionists aren't laughing.


Putin is a blowhard - not much different from Ahmadinejad..
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat



K .. . I've watched you for awhile, not really sure which weirdness I found less entertaining, however you've really bit the big bisquet on this one ... . bush over putin you say, are you on crack ???

did you see the pictures, have you ever shot a man-eating goat, no .. I didn't think so . go away and come back with your brain, cause you've certainly lost it ..

'World Leader' look into it .
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GOG had a secret meeting with Putin over the Christmas holidays.....

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09/04/2008 12:28 PM
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How is Russia or Putin evil?


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Also, the last presidential election was rigged big time.
Opposition candidates were prevented from running.

 Quoting: DrPostman


As opposed to the US election which was conducted in a fair & balanced fashion ? The nerve of some people! If Russia & putil are Evil then what the fuck is the US with its 2 illegal occupation's & faked moon landing's.
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romanov he supports that family
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romanov he supports that family
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Romanovs are bloodline-illuminati, if he supports them he works for them. I thought they were near extinct? Destroyed by the jesuits? Any ideas who/where they are at?

I saw a photo with Putin and some prince from Monaco. The prince was on a 2 week vacation with Putin?
ATTC

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09/04/2008 01:51 PM
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The theory of Russia truly being the good guys could actually hold some merit.

What did Russia ever do besides oppose the Rothschild Central Bank?

If it was about genocide we would have been fighting against them because of the Great Purge of Stalin.
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Idiots
Putin is controlled by an elite family
They are factions fighting eachother for world government
Idiots
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It's easy to assume that. But if that is the case why is Russia opposed to the Rothschild debt based monetary system?
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09/04/2008 02:33 PM
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PUTIN IS PART OF THE SAME ESTABLISHMENT YOU MORONS.
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romanov he supports that family

Romanovs are bloodline-illuminati, if he supports them he works for them. I thought they were near extinct? Destroyed by the jesuits? Any ideas who/where they are at?

I saw a photo with Putin and some prince from Monaco. The prince was on a 2 week vacation with Putin?
 Quoting: Darza


The only person alive who is possibly a direct heir to the Czars is married to the Queen of England.

There is only one Prince of Monaco. He is Grace Kelly's son. Quite the marine enviornmentalist, educated in the U.S.
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romanov he supports that family
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The Romanov's you are thinking of are no longer in existence.
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romanov he supports that family

Romanovs are bloodline-illuminati, if he supports them he works for them. I thought they were near extinct? Destroyed by the jesuits? Any ideas who/where they are at?

I saw a photo with Putin and some prince from Monaco. The prince was on a 2 week vacation with Putin?


The only person alive who is possibly a direct heir to the Czars is married to the Queen of England.

There is only one Prince of Monaco. He is Grace Kelly's son. Quite the marine enviornmentalist, educated in the U.S.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497042

Thanks for the tip, i never expected that, Charles! And Putin is supporting this? It gets crazier by the day.

And with the rumors of a movement to restore a monarchy to Russia, albeit a constitutional one, an event of that magnitude could impact all of our lives. You might also be surprised to learn some of the names of those with a legitimate claim to succeed as head of the House of Romanov. Does Prince Charles ring a bell?
[link to www.bookreporter.com]
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does Prince William ??
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Thanks for the tip, i never expected that, Charles! And Putin is supporting this? It gets crazier by the day.

And with the rumors of a movement to restore a monarchy to Russia, albeit a constitutional one, an event of that magnitude could impact all of our lives. You might also be surprised to learn some of the names of those with a legitimate claim to succeed as head of the House of Romanov. Does Prince Charles ring a bell?
[link to www.bookreporter.com]

 Quoting: Darza


Putin, most absolutely, does not support and return to monarchal society.

He has been very open to celebrating complete Russian history, which was regulated heavily under communist rule.
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I'm 100% on the American side but I respect Putin. He turned Russia completely around from a financial collapse and a collapse of their sovereignty to the current world power house it is. Nobody should think Putin is anything but crazy like a fox.


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Thanks for the tip, i never expected that, Charles! And Putin is supporting this? It gets crazier by the day.

And with the rumors of a movement to restore a monarchy to Russia, albeit a constitutional one, an event of that magnitude could impact all of our lives. You might also be surprised to learn some of the names of those with a legitimate claim to succeed as head of the House of Romanov. Does Prince Charles ring a bell?
[link to www.bookreporter.com]



Putin, most absolutely, does not support and return to monarchal society.

He has been very open to celebrating complete Russian history, which was regulated heavily under communist rule.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497042

I read some stuff he is close to the orthodox church.

I forsee a union between the EU and Russia, someone like Charles or indeed William could be the leader of it all.
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I'm 100% on the American side but I respect Putin. He turned Russia completely around from a financial collapse and a collapse of their sovereignty to the current world power house it is. Nobody should think Putin is anything but crazy like a fox.



 Quoting: Jenn++ 144626


The guy was handed a shitheap. In this, there is no doubt. I truly believe that the forces within the Kremlin and Duma actually thought he would be a maleable figurehead for their purposes. Well, we get the rulers we deserve, 'eh?
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Thanks for the tip, i never expected that, Charles! And Putin is supporting this? It gets crazier by the day.

And with the rumors of a movement to restore a monarchy to Russia, albeit a constitutional one, an event of that magnitude could impact all of our lives. You might also be surprised to learn some of the names of those with a legitimate claim to succeed as head of the House of Romanov. Does Prince Charles ring a bell?
[link to www.bookreporter.com]



Putin, most absolutely, does not support and return to monarchal society.

He has been very open to celebrating complete Russian history, which was regulated heavily under communist rule.

I read some stuff he is close to the orthodox church.

I forsee a union between the EU and Russia, someone like Charles or indeed William could be the leader of it all.
 Quoting: Darza


RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH. Has nothing to do with popery. You need to read a little history.

Putin would have Charles head on a pike before he'd bow to the EU.
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Thanks for the tip, i never expected that, Charles! And Putin is supporting this? It gets crazier by the day.

And with the rumors of a movement to restore a monarchy to Russia, albeit a constitutional one, an event of that magnitude could impact all of our lives. You might also be surprised to learn some of the names of those with a legitimate claim to succeed as head of the House of Romanov. Does Prince Charles ring a bell?
[link to www.bookreporter.com]



Putin, most absolutely, does not support and return to monarchal society.

He has been very open to celebrating complete Russian history, which was regulated heavily under communist rule.

I read some stuff he is close to the orthodox church.

I forsee a union between the EU and Russia, someone like Charles or indeed William could be the leader of it all.
 Quoting: Darza


sorry, but i just can't see that. not without a nuke war first anyway. people are far too entrenched in their nationalistic views to put up with that.

a abomb war though would leave the survivors too stunned to oppose it.
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sorry, but i just can't see that. not without a nuke war first anyway. people are far too entrenched in their nationalistic views to put up with that.

a abomb war though would leave the survivors too stunned to oppose it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 496899

With the Lisbon treaty the EU and Russia are already organized similar. The Irish stopped that, but they are scheming on i hear.

Some want the Roman empire prior to the split Orthodox-Catholic back, that would even include Northern Africa.
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god bless you... the gates of hell shall not rise up against my bride...... your lone voice is saying that the russian ship is passing all the others but the jihadists and their allies also know this so the globe will have to take a step back before coming fprward... to complete the russian oil thought putin is in vladivostok sheriffing the russian far east oil that is driving these prices down
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GO AMERICA GO ISRAEL GO ILLUMANATEE GO NATO..IT STILL BEATS BEING RULED BY RUSSIA CHINA OR ISLAM...............................YOU BET OUR NATION AND OUR ALLIES WILL FIGHT. WHAT OTHER OPTIONS DO WE HAVE WITH NEW WORLD POWERS NIPPING AT OUR HEELS.PEOPLE WHO WANT PEACE AND NO WARS WILL NOT FIND IT ON THIS EARTH.ALL NATIONS STRUGGLE TO SURVIVE. GET OVER IT ..AND OIL WARS WILL CONTINUE.ENERGY STILL RUNS THIS GLOBE.NOW GO BACK TO SLEEP.
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PEOPLE WHO WANT PEACE AND NO WARS WILL NOT FIND IT ON THIS EARTH.ALL NATIONS STRUGGLE TO SURVIVE.
 Quoting: winddancer144

I have peace independent of some imaginary lines on a globe and bullies fighting over these.
It is the peace that comes from within, all can realize it.
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The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
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