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Mad scientists plan an even bigger bang with a bigger Collider14.09.2008

If you thought the kafuffle over the switching on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) this week and the threat of an Earth-sucking black hole, then think again because scientists are planning an even bigger particle smashing machine 40 to 50 times larger.
The LHC at CERN has only just kicked into action and the largescale experiments a certain group of scientists fear could bring about the word’s demise will take place over the coming weeks and months.

But results-hungry scientists don’t intend to stop there and are planning a massive particle collider called the International Linear Collider that will make the LHC seem like a child’s toy.

Most people would believe that the LHC is the only such machine in the world but other efforts such as the Stanford Linear Accelerator Centre and Tevatron, a circular particle accelerator in Illinois, have been with us for some time.

In August 2004, the International Technology Recommendation Panel (ITRP) recommended a Superconducing RF technology for the next major accelerator, International Linear Collider (LLC).

The ILC will have a collision energy of 500 GeV (electron volts) and will collide electrons with positrons along a 30 to 40km tunnel.

This compares to the LHC where from a 27km tunnel located 300 feet underground beneath Switzerland and France, the massive Hadron Collider will slam together particles with a collision energy of 7 GeV to find the elusive Higgs Boson, or ‘God Particle’.

The host country for the ILC has not yet been chosen but it is planned to have the machine constructed by late 2010. The new machine will cost an estimated US$7bn to build, from which the host country would have to pay US$1.5bn towards the construction.

So far an estimated US$150m has been spent on the machine, nick-named “Einstein’s Telescope.”

The electron source for the ILC will use 2-nanosecond laser light pulses to eject electrons from a photocathode

Another competitor in scale to the ILC, the Compact Linear Collider (CLIC), is being proposed to be built at CERN following the LHC experiments.

Even if scientists at the LHC on the Swiss-French border do discover the Higgs Boson, it will raise even more questions than answers and they will need a more capable machine to discover the answer to questions of matter and what happened after the Big Bang that created the universe as we know it.

On Wednesday the first beam in the LHC was successfully steered around the full 27 kilometres of the world’s most powerful particle accelerator at 10h28 in the morning. The historic event marks a key moment in the transition from over two decades of preparation to a new era of scientific discovery.

“It’s a fantastic moment,” said LHC project leader Lyn Evans, “we can now look forward to a new era of understanding about the origins and evolution of the universe.”

Once colliding beams have been established, there will be a period of measurement and calibration for the LHC’s four major experiments, and new results could start to appear in around a year. Experiments at the LHC will allow physicists to complete a journey that started with Newton's description of gravity.

Gravity acts on mass, but so far science is unable to explain the mechanism that generates mass. Experiments at the LHC will provide the answer. LHC experiments will also try to probe the mysterious dark matter of the universe – visible matter seems to account for just 5pc of what must exist, while about a quarter is believed to be dark matter.

They will investigate the reason for nature's preference for matter over antimatter, and they will probe matter as it existed at the very beginning of time.

“The LHC is a discovery machine,” said CERN director general Robert Aymar, “its research programme has the potential to change our view of the universe profoundly, continuing a tradition of human curiosity that’s as old as mankind itself.”

By John Kennedy
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 Quoting: SixEyedcheeseball

LOL, that could be us soon.
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hmm the ILC will smash particles together at 500GeV??? thats about 30 times less powerful than the LHC which will smash particles together at 14 TeV (2 opposite beams of protons at 7TeV each)
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LOL, that could be us soon.
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“Einstein’s Telescope”

Hmm Ilike that name.
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LOL you are killing me Kanigo2
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This whole CERN story reminds me of "The Emperors Clothes" parading around not realizing they are naked.
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Bigger Bang Theory: Einstein’s Telescope dwarfs Large Hadron Collider
[link to www.itwire.com]

!The Large Hadron Collider has got the world talking about life, the universe and everything. Oh, and black holes and death, of course. Just wait until people hear about it's big brother: the International Linear Collider...

It is all about the bang. Well that and the stuff that is created as a result. Who would have thought that the world's media, and in turn much of the world it seems, would get so excited about a bunch of physicists searching for the Higgs boson, BEH Mechanism or the God Particle?


Call it what you will, the hunt for the meaning of life, the universe and everything has certainly got us all thinking. Mainly about the end of the world, it has to be said.

However, as already reported at iTWire you can remove your head from between your knees and relax, because the world is not going to end any time soon.

The Internet might just get a little faster as a direct result though.

But I digress, the Large Hadron Collider has only just been switched on, and will spend some weeks accelerating particles around the big atomic racetrack in different directions before deliberately crashing them together at a speed so zany it is hard to get your head around.

But let's at least try. The LHC tunnel, some 300 feet underneath Switzerland and France, is an impressive 27km circuit. Proton beams are fired around this at 99.99975 percent of the speed of light.

To put that into some perspective, that means a beam can complete something close to 11,000 laps of the 27km circuit every single second.

It is when the beams, travelling in opposing directions around the circuit, are guided into one another that the 'big bang' experiment does its stuff. The collision energy involved being 7 GeV, or 7 billion electron Volts if that makes it any clearer.

I didn't think so. Basically, an electron Volt, or eV, is just the amount of energy that an electron picks up when moving through a potential difference of 1 volt in a vacuum. It is the standard unit of energy in particle physics.

If you thought all that sounded impressive, just wait until you read page 2 and discover what Einstein’s Telescope, the real Big Bang machine, can do...
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It is when the beams, travelling in opposing directions around the circuit, are guided into one another that the 'big bang' experiment does its stuff. The collision energy involved being 7 GeV, or 7 billion electron Volts if that makes it any clearer.


 Quoting: acolye nli 308272

Right, not to piss on your fire or the fire of the person that wrote that, the LHC collides particles at 14TeV 14 Tera Electron Volts. 1000Giga Electron Volts = 1Tera Electron Volt.
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can someone explain to me how the current LHC works? are they just shooting 2 laser beams into each other? or are they using the laser beams for propulsion?
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can someone explain to me how the current LHC works? are they just shooting 2 laser beams into each other? or are they using the laser beams for propulsion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 495071


An atom has electrons orbiting around a nucleus. The nucleus is composed of protons and neutrons. Electrons, protons and neutrons are the result of the union of much more little particles called quarks. There are theories of how many of these simple units exist, a quark is a particle that is not formed for any other more little particle. Understanding the number of quarks and their properties they expect to understand matter.

The conspiracy says the vast amount of people involved only know the physics they learn in the schools. But that has not ressemblance with the real physics only a very few ones understand. So they say the LHC is for smashing particles and others see it like a giant magnet to distort dimensions and collapsing them and affect time. Like philadelphia experiment where mangetic fields affected time and space. All is magnetic. So they built a gun and some ones believe it is to hunt and others think it is to attack a bank.

Of course you know, the conspiracy is absurd because you can't have so many scientists without knowing what is really going on. Well, think about Nasa and the Moon hoax and guess again¿?
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Hey OP...didn't you bug out in May? Like May 15th?
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Bigger Bang Theory: Einstein’s Telescope dwarfs Large Hadron Collider
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It is when the beams, travelling in opposing directions around the circuit, are guided into one another that the 'big bang' experiment does its stuff. The collision energy involved being 7 GeV, or 7 billion electron Volts if that makes it any clearer.



Right, not to piss on your fire or the fire of the person that wrote that, the LHC collides particles at 14TeV 14 Tera Electron Volts. 1000Giga Electron Volts = 1Tera Electron Volt.
 Quoting: OxygenX

You know your stuff :)
So its larger but not as powerfull then?
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the inner and the outer is going to shear
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it's going to be a good time
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I believe its 500tev
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Mad scientists plan an even bigger bang with a bigger Collider14.09.2008

If you thought the kafuffle over the switching on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) this week and the threat of an Earth-sucking black hole, then think again because scientists are planning an even bigger particle smashing machine 40 to 50 times larger.
The LHC at CERN has only just kicked into action and the largescale experiments a certain group of scientists fear could bring about the word’s demise will take place over the coming weeks and months.

But results-hungry scientists don’t intend to stop there and are planning a massive particle collider called the International Linear Collider that will make the LHC seem like a child’s toy.

Most people would believe that the LHC is the only such machine in the world but other efforts such as the Stanford Linear Accelerator Centre and Tevatron, a circular particle accelerator in Illinois, have been with us for some time.

In August 2004, the International Technology Recommendation Panel (ITRP) recommended a Superconducing RF technology for the next major accelerator, International Linear Collider (LLC).

The ILC will have a collision energy of 500 GeV (electron volts) and will collide electrons with positrons along a 30 to 40km tunnel.

This compares to the LHC where from a 27km tunnel located 300 feet underground beneath Switzerland and France, the massive Hadron Collider will slam together particles with a collision energy of 7 GeV to find the elusive Higgs Boson, or ‘God Particle’.

The host country for the ILC has not yet been chosen but it is planned to have the machine constructed by late 2010. The new machine will cost an estimated US$7bn to build, from which the host country would have to pay US$1.5bn towards the construction.

So far an estimated US$150m has been spent on the machine, nick-named “Einstein’s Telescope.”

The electron source for the ILC will use 2-nanosecond laser light pulses to eject electrons from a photocathode

Another competitor in scale to the ILC, the Compact Linear Collider (CLIC), is being proposed to be built at CERN following the LHC experiments.

Even if scientists at the LHC on the Swiss-French border do discover the Higgs Boson, it will raise even more questions than answers and they will need a more capable machine to discover the answer to questions of matter and what happened after the Big Bang that created the universe as we know it.

On Wednesday the first beam in the LHC was successfully steered around the full 27 kilometres of the world’s most powerful particle accelerator at 10h28 in the morning. The historic event marks a key moment in the transition from over two decades of preparation to a new era of scientific discovery.

“It’s a fantastic moment,” said LHC project leader Lyn Evans, “we can now look forward to a new era of understanding about the origins and evolution of the universe.”

Once colliding beams have been established, there will be a period of measurement and calibration for the LHC’s four major experiments, and new results could start to appear in around a year. Experiments at the LHC will allow physicists to complete a journey that started with Newton's description of gravity.

Gravity acts on mass, but so far science is unable to explain the mechanism that generates mass. Experiments at the LHC will provide the answer. LHC experiments will also try to probe the mysterious dark matter of the universe – visible matter seems to account for just 5pc of what must exist, while about a quarter is believed to be dark matter.

They will investigate the reason for nature's preference for matter over antimatter, and they will probe matter as it existed at the very beginning of time.

“The LHC is a discovery machine,” said CERN director general Robert Aymar, “its research programme has the potential to change our view of the universe profoundly, continuing a tradition of human curiosity that’s as old as mankind itself.”

By John Kennedy
 Quoting: acolyte



Hey LAN guess what?

Your project is going to be LERMed out of exsistance.

LMFAO.

Those qweers at Life Physics in Cali are being hunted down then killed.

PhD Aron Bordon is already dead and Evan Weinz is next.

You LHC is no more soon motherfuckers.

Have fun searching the latest intel from the NSA spy satellite.

Video is being posted all over the net along with your scientist taking it up the ass in weird positions.

LMFAO
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the inner and the outer is going to shear
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hiding :)
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Bigger Bang Theory: Einstein’s Telescope dwarfs Large Hadron Collider
[link to www.itwire.com]



It is when the beams, travelling in opposing directions around the circuit, are guided into one another that the 'big bang' experiment does its stuff. The collision energy involved being 7 GeV, or 7 billion electron Volts if that makes it any clearer.



Right, not to piss on your fire or the fire of the person that wrote that, the LHC collides particles at 14TeV 14 Tera Electron Volts. 1000Giga Electron Volts = 1Tera Electron Volt.

You know your stuff :)
So its larger but not as powerfull then?
 Quoting: acolyte

Its not that I know my stuff, more a case of the person who wrote the article at that link clearly doesn't, bad jounalism.
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