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Yet, this woman claims "executive privilege" when it comes to her emails on Troopergate.

So what the heck would she be? There are only 3 branches in federal government.

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By Faiz at 9:53 am Palin Refuses To Say Whether She Would Be Part Of Executive Branch»

When Sarah Palin was announced as John McCain’s running mate, President Bush said that she “had the executive appearance and that’s what it takes to be a capable person…in the executive branch.” But like Bush’s own vice president, it’s not clear that Palin would consider herself to be part of the executive branch.

The Hill reports that it inquired with both Joseph Biden and Sarah Palin about whether they would consider themselves to be part of the executive branch in the next administration. The Hill’s Kevin Bogardus reports, “Sen. Biden (Del.) believes the office he is seeking is solely in the executive branch, according to his staff. But aides to Alaska Gov. Palin did not answer the question”:

[A] spokesman for the Republican presidential campaign did not answer the question. Instead, he e-mailed remarks Palin gave at a campaign rally in Golden, Colo., on Monday.

Palin did not say what branch of government she believes the vice president’s office is part of in those remarks. Instead, Palin said she and Republican presidential nominee John McCain had discussed what responsibilities she would take on as his second-in-command.

Dick Cheney, and his chief aide David Addington, have repeatedly tried to argue that the vice president is not part of the executive branch. Cheney, who has referred to his office as “a unique creature,” has tried to exempt himself from a presidential executive order designed to safeguard classified national security information.

Already, Palin’s handling the “Troopergate” probe has demonstrated a striking resemblance to Cheney’s penchant for secrecy. Palin is thwarting both a state legislature probe and a state Personnel Board investigation into the ethics scandal. Like the Bush White House, she is claiming “executive privilege” on e-mails from personal accounts. And just yesterday, her husband Todd Palin — following in the footsteps of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten — said thanks but no thanks to a subpoena demanding he appear before the state Senate Judiciary Committee.


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She'll be in the Dick Cheney branch.


Where else did you expect her to be?

And don't worry, I'm sure she can start some wars, and rack up some $$$$ for HAL.
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Courts have already decided this from past decisions. Move along, Polly. Look for another issue.
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Didn't that cop threaten to kill her father?
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If you weren't laughing, you'd be crying because humor will be all you have left after losing the election.
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She's the laughing stock of everyone, Mcbush's folly.

She'll be in the Dick Cheney branch.


Where else did you expect her to be?

And don't worry, I'm sure she can start some wars, and rack up some $$$$ for HAL.
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Apparently, A.C., the undereducated, unqualified Palin Quayle doesn't know that.

Why don' you drop her a line at her probably newly created Yahoo email account and let her know?



Courts have already decided this from past decisions. Move along, Polly. Look for another issue.
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Bumping for Sinanju, and oh, what the heck, for PAC, too.
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Apparently, none of you have read the constitution.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Now the VP:

The Vice President of the United States[1] is the first person in the presidential line of succession, becoming the new President of the United States upon the death, resignation, or removal of the president. Every presidential term ends on January 20 of the year immediately after a presidential election. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber.[2] He or she may be assigned additional duties by the president but, as the Constitution assigns no executive powers to the vice president, in performing such duties he or she acts only as an agent of the president.

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You really are just too stupid to be discussing these issues, Polly.
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Bueller?
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Are you saying that the OP was talking out her ass and making shit up???
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Ahhh, the poster with the reminder from the other thread.

You, my dear reader, miss the boat.

Try reading THIS paragraph once again.

>>snip: "Already, Palin’s handling the “Troopergate” probe has demonstrated a striking resemblance to Cheney’s penchant for secrecy. Palin is thwarting both a state legislature probe and a state Personnel Board investigation into the ethics scandal. Like the Bush White House, she is claiming “executive privilege” on e-mails from personal accounts. And just yesterday, her husband Todd Palin — following in the footsteps of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten — said thanks but no thanks to a subpoena demanding he appear before the state Senate Judiciary Committee."

The chick is involved in a ethics scandal, an alleged abuse of power incident.

She has already proved she is a liar. And, by virtue of CHOOSING executive privege on her emails is already proving that she plays the game of convenience.

What don't you get, A.C.??





Apparently, none of you have read the constitution.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Now the VP:

The Vice President of the United States[1] is the first person in the presidential line of succession, becoming the new President of the United States upon the death, resignation, or removal of the president. Every presidential term ends on January 20 of the year immediately after a presidential election. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber.[2] He or she may be assigned additional duties by the president but, as the Constitution assigns no executive powers to the vice president, in performing such duties he or she acts only as an agent of the president.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You really are just too stupid to be discussing these issues, Polly.
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Hi Polly!

Pink
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Apparently, none of you have read the constitution.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Now the VP:

The Vice President of the United States[1] is the first person in the presidential line of succession, becoming the new President of the United States upon the death, resignation, or removal of the president. Every presidential term ends on January 20 of the year immediately after a presidential election. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber.[2] He or she may be assigned additional duties by the president but, as the Constitution assigns no executive powers to the vice president, in performing such duties he or she acts only as an agent of the president.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You really are just too stupid to be discussing these issues, Polly.
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Cut through the damned chase and you go to WikiPedia rather than the US Constitution and US Supreme Court decisions?

No wonder the USA is in such serious trouble.

The Office of the Vice President is spelled out in Article Two of the US Constutition, that makes it fully a part of the Executive Branch. The VP has no Executive POWER unless the President is disabled, assininated or resigns from office.

WikiPedia needs to become vaporware... as does Cheney.
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More of Polly's gender discrimination
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Her claim of Executive Priviledge is because she IS Governor of Alaska... a part of the Executive Branch of the State of Alaska. Polly may well be comparing Apples to Oranges here. But her point about refusing to submit to sopeneas (sp) is rather telling in my mind. Just as Bush and Cheney and serveral others in the Federal Executive Branch are doing. In my book this cancels her out as a potential VP.

But for me, I'm voting Nader anyways, the rest of you, just keep locked into your TWO PARTY freaking acid trip hallucinating PARTY.
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Do any of you REALLY want someone who cavorts with witch hunters as vice president?

REALLY?

Think about that for a minute.
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PINK!!!

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Hi Polly!

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More of Polly's gender discrimination
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You're wrong. I can't speak for Polly, but I think I've got a pretty good idea as to how she feels and if she's anything like me, we may be women, but just because Palin is a woman doesn't mean we have to vote for her. We vote for who's the MOST QUALIFIED and Palin's not it. Plus she represents everything we are against. We vote with our brains, not our gender.

I could probably say the same about you - racial discrimination.
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Ahhh, the poster with the reminder from the other thread.

You, my dear reader, miss the boat.

Try reading THIS paragraph once again.

>>snip: "Already, Palin’s handling the “Troopergate” probe has demonstrated a striking resemblance to Cheney’s penchant for secrecy. Palin is thwarting both a state legislature probe and a state Personnel Board investigation into the ethics scandal. Like the Bush White House, she is claiming “executive privilege” on e-mails from personal accounts. And just yesterday, her husband Todd Palin — following in the footsteps of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten — said thanks but no thanks to a subpoena demanding he appear before the state Senate Judiciary Committee."

The chick is involved in a ethics scandal, an alleged abuse of power incident.

She has already proved she is a liar. And, by virtue of CHOOSING executive privege on her emails is already proving that she plays the game of convenience.

What don't you get, A.C.??






Apparently, none of you have read the constitution.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Now the VP:

The Vice President of the United States[1] is the first person in the presidential line of succession, becoming the new President of the United States upon the death, resignation, or removal of the president. Every presidential term ends on January 20 of the year immediately after a presidential election. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber.[2] He or she may be assigned additional duties by the president but, as the Constitution assigns no executive powers to the vice president, in performing such duties he or she acts only as an agent of the president.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You really are just too stupid to be discussing these issues, Polly.

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Well regarding the question asked in the thread title, and what the Constitution actually says about the office; if Palin did in fact not answer the question, it was a more intelligent response than to say "yes it's the executive branch". It seems to be a really gray area.

Now as far as your "troopergate" goes?

I don't see as yet anything has yet been prooven in this issue as fact or fiction.

As far as her husband having to testify?

I don't think you can make a spouse testify against their spouse. It's the law.
"Everybody lies."
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Well regarding the question asked in the thread title, and what the Constitution actually says about the office; if Palin did in fact not answer the question, it was a more intelligent response than to say "yes it's the executive branch". It seems to be a really gray area.

Now as far as your "troopergate" goes?

I don't see as yet anything has yet been prooven in this issue as fact or fiction.

As far as her husband having to testify?

I don't think you can make a spouse testify against their spouse. It's the law.
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The disturbing thing about troopergate, as usual, is the cover up, not the act.

I don't know if any of us could fault her for trying to get an abusive ex-brother-in-law fired. Why not admit it? Why refuse to testify?

Remember, it wasn't the act of breaking into the Watergate Hotel that got Nixon fired. It was the cover up.

Oh wait. Politicians do whatever they want these days.

I haven't seen such a power-hungry individual since Karl started rising up in the ranks.
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Just catching up with the thread.

Thanks, A.C., you DID speak for me!

hugs


More of Polly's gender discrimination


You're wrong. I can't speak for Polly, but I think I've got a pretty good idea as to how she feels and if she's anything like me, we may be women, but just because Palin is a woman doesn't mean we have to vote for her. We vote for who's the MOST QUALIFIED and Palin's not it. Plus she represents everything we are against. We vote with our brains, not our gender.

I could probably say the same about you - racial discrimination.
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G. House, the law may vary from state to state on the issue of spousal testimony. I don't know how Alaska's reads.

However, they apparently have information regarding Palin sharing state info with her husband, and his involvement in this particular incident would make for either tepid or injurious testimony against her.

I doubt they are going to force the issue as they probably have already concluded the discovery phase. The report is due out in early October.

The point of this thread is that Palin USES the law regarding executive privilege for her as well as at her convenience.

Well regarding the question asked in the thread title, and what the Constitution actually says about the office; if Palin did in fact not answer the question, it was a more intelligent response than to say "yes it's the executive branch". It seems to be a really gray area.

Now as far as your "troopergate" goes?

I don't see as yet anything has yet been prooven in this issue as fact or fiction.

As far as her husband having to testify?

I don't think you can make a spouse testify against their spouse. It's the law.
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Hopefully this will be all over soon.

It may well indeed become an October "surprise" for Palin.

Advance comments indicated a problem for Palin.

Well regarding the question asked in the thread title, and what the Constitution actually says about the office; if Palin did in fact not answer the question, it was a more intelligent response than to say "yes it's the executive branch". It seems to be a really gray area.

Now as far as your "troopergate" goes?

I don't see as yet anything has yet been prooven in this issue as fact or fiction.

As far as her husband having to testify?

I don't think you can make a spouse testify against their spouse. It's the law.

The disturbing thing about troopergate, as usual, is the cover up, not the act.

I don't know if any of us could fault her for trying to get an abusive ex-brother-in-law fired. Why not admit it? Why refuse to testify?

Remember, it wasn't the act of breaking into the Watergate Hotel that got Nixon fired. It was the cover up.

Oh wait. Politicians do whatever they want these days.

I haven't seen such a power-hungry individual since Karl started rising up in the ranks.
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G. House, the law may vary from state to state on the issue of spousal testimony. I don't know how Alaska's reads.

However, they apparently have information regarding Palin sharing state info with her husband, and his involvement in this particular incident would make for either tepid or injurious testimony against her.

I doubt they are going to force the issue as they probably have already concluded the discovery phase. The report is due out in early October.

The point of this thread is that Palin USES the law regarding executive privilege for her as well as at her convenience.



Well regarding the question asked in the thread title, and what the Constitution actually says about the office; if Palin did in fact not answer the question, it was a more intelligent response than to say "yes it's the executive branch". It seems to be a really gray area.

Now as far as your "troopergate" goes?

I don't see as yet anything has yet been prooven in this issue as fact or fiction.

As far as her husband having to testify?

I don't think you can make a spouse testify against their spouse. It's the law.

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how do you know what the investigation has? If its and ongoing investigation no one should know anything and if someone is leaking info then it makes mccain's stance legit the investigation is corrupt.
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I haven't kept the article, but I do remember the wording.

If I find it, I'll post the link.


G. House, the law may vary from state to state on the issue of spousal testimony. I don't know how Alaska's reads.

However, they apparently have information regarding Palin sharing state info with her husband, and his involvement in this particular incident would make for either tepid or injurious testimony against her.

I doubt they are going to force the issue as they probably have already concluded the discovery phase. The report is due out in early October.

The point of this thread is that Palin USES the law regarding executive privilege for her as well as at her convenience.



Well regarding the question asked in the thread title, and what the Constitution actually says about the office; if Palin did in fact not answer the question, it was a more intelligent response than to say "yes it's the executive branch". It seems to be a really gray area.

Now as far as your "troopergate" goes?

I don't see as yet anything has yet been prooven in this issue as fact or fiction.

As far as her husband having to testify?

I don't think you can make a spouse testify against their spouse. It's the law.


how do you know what the investigation has? If its and ongoing investigation no one should know anything and if someone is leaking info then it makes mccain's stance legit the investigation is corrupt.
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Err, umm... an internal "miscommunication" perhaps --- firing him for insubordination for taking a trip that was approved ? Hmm..... the plot thickens......


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She agreed wholeheartedly to testify.
Now she is backtracking bigtime.
Guilty Conscience.

What does it mean when Palin won’t cooperate with legislative investigation?
Posted: 01:39 PM ET

Palin fired her public safety commissioner and is now under investigation.
FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:

Governor Sarah Palin is being investigated by lawmakers in her home state of Alaska. At issue: Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan and whether he was fired because he refused to pink slip a state trooper who divorced Palin’s sister.

But Palin is refusing to cooperate with the investigation. Shades of President Bush. Embarrassing investigation? Just refuse to cooperate and claim it’s all someone else’s fault.

Palin says the probe’s been hijacked by the Obama campaign for political gain. But Monegan was fired and the investigation begun long before Palin was named to the Republican ticket.

The Obama campaign denies the accusation.

McCain’s people say Palin will not cooperate with the investigation because it is “tainted.” They insist Monegan was fired because of insubordination.

Palin has not been subpoenaed, but last Friday Alaska lawmakers voted to subpoena her husband, several aides and telephone records. This kind of stuff may also explain why Sarah Palin is reluctant to do interviews or news conferences.

Here’s my question to you: What does it mean that Gov. Sarah Palin is refusing to cooperate with the investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?


Marie from Minnesota writes:
This woman is ridiculous. She won’t answer questions from the media. She won’t answer questions from voters and she won’t answer questions related to this investigation. It is so obvious that this woman is not prepared at all to be V.P. At some point the American public deserves to have their questions answered.

Eileen writes:
Well what else can it mean? Her handlers know she has something to hide, so let’s all blame the Democrats. So what if the facts are that the Republicans are the majority who opened the investigation?

Bruce from St. Paul, Minnesota writes:
For the same reason Rove, Cheney, and anyone remotely connected to them will not honor congressional subpoenas. The same reason Nixon would not cooperate with the Watergate investigators. The same reason Bush would not produce, and in fact destroyed his Air National Guard records. Laws are for suckers like us.

Sasha writes:
Palin failing to cooperate with the investigation, along with the McCain campaign not letting her do any more interviews or press conferences on her own, says there are some question marks about her and her situation. Where did the “straight talk express” go on the McCain-Palin campaign?

Pablo from Charles from Town, WV writes:
It means they need more time to put lipstick on the pig, bulldog or whatever animal they are trying to disguise before the American people can see it for what it really is. My guess is it is a weasel.

Debra writes:
It means she is better prepared to be vice-president than any of us thought. Following in the footsteps of our current V.P., she has been taught the values of “executive privilege” and is apparently a quick learner.

[link to caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com]
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Well regarding the question asked in the thread title, and what the Constitution actually says about the office; if Palin did in fact not answer the question, it was a more intelligent response than to say "yes it's the executive branch". It seems to be a really gray area.
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Bullshit.




Civics, much?

The Constitution clearly defines the Vice President as belonging to the Executive Branch of government.

The Veep's role as the tie-breaker in the Senate in no way makes him a member of the Legislative branch, just as the President's role in signing legislation doesn't make him a member of the Legislative branch either!

WHAT - you think every single predecessor of Prunedick Cheney was just too ignorqant in their "understanding" of what[i/] branch of government they belonged to? I guess such Founding Fathers as John Adams and Thomas Jefferson "just didn't get it," eh, House?


For my Constitutionally-impaired Republicans:

Article II of the U.S. Constitution is devoted to the Executive Branch of government.

From Article II, Section 1::

"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term"


...and again from Section 1:

"In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President"

And most importantly, from Article II, Section 4:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.









...How appropriate someone like you wouldn't respect what the Constitution actually says.

Of course, disrespect and disregard for the Constitution has been a []Republican hallmark for eight years now.
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Re: Palin Refuses To Say Whether She Would Be Part Of Executive Branch! - Conveniently uses "executive privelege" when it comes to Troopergate
I think it's utterly ridiculous that this woman would even consider VP. Besides being a power-hungry ignoramus, look what she's subjecting her family to. We'l see what else will be dug up on Palin, I'm sure.

I think the political cartoon sums it up. Forget economics. At least she knows where Russia is, lol.





GLP