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HannibalTheCannibal User ID: 508943 United Kingdom 10/08/2008 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be honest i think this is likely a load of old BS. However, its interesting, because if there was indeed a seismic event on the same day it makes claims this far fetched have some basis, could however just be an earthquake with somebody cashing in on that fact. Ill be watching this story. There is NO PROFIT IN PEACE, There is NO PROPHET IN PEACE. Resident GLP Religion HATER and PROUD Atheist. Carl Sagan "A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." [link to img181.imageshack.us] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 521561 United States 10/09/2008 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolute BS. Like that could have been kept a secret. Besides, the article referrs to the "veteran" as a 4th level engineer, later reduced to a "3d level". What in the hell is that? No such thing as "levels" in the army. I guess they could be referring to a pay grade - however, I kind of doubt an E-4 (specialist) would know much about the secret dropping of a nuke. |
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malu User ID: 497098 United States 10/09/2008 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have no idea if these two events are related? "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 519348 United States 10/09/2008 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i had a friend who was in the area working for an oil company, and the military during this time, and one day some brits came running into his office screaming that the yanks had just dropped a nuke, well it turned out to be a fuel air explosive, which can have the same mushroom cloud effect, and they certainly are very powerful Quoting: malui have no idea if these two events are related? The United States used Daisy Cutter bombs during the Gulf War. The Iraqi's thought the US had dropped a nuke - but it's only a 20k ton conventional bomb pushed out the back of a C-130 transport. The Daisy Cutter was used by the Air Force to clear obstacles, mines, and artillery positions in front of advancing US Marines entering Quwait. Iran can expect MOAB munitions to be dropped in a similar way should they react against US Forces when Israel opposes the Syrians invasion of Lebanon next week. There was no nuke in 1991. The story comes from the same Iranian press who reported that Iran force landed a US Fighter last week. Total BS from a BS source, with a BS "vet". |
HannibalTheCannibal User ID: 508943 United Kingdom 10/09/2008 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Daisy Cutter was used by the Air Force to clear obstacles, mines, and artillery positions in front of advancing US Marines entering Quwait. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519348Id go with this, sounds logical. There is NO PROFIT IN PEACE, There is NO PROPHET IN PEACE. Resident GLP Religion HATER and PROUD Atheist. Carl Sagan "A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." [link to img181.imageshack.us] |
malu User ID: 497098 United States 10/09/2008 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i had a friend who was in the area working for an oil company, and the military during this time, and one day some brits came running into his office screaming that the yanks had just dropped a nuke, well it turned out to be a fuel air explosive, which can have the same mushroom cloud effect, and they certainly are very powerful Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519348i have no idea if these two events are related? The United States used Daisy Cutter bombs during the Gulf War. The Iraqi's thought the US had dropped a nuke - but it's only a 20k ton conventional bomb pushed out the back of a C-130 transport. The Daisy Cutter was used by the Air Force to clear obstacles, mines, and artillery positions in front of advancing US Marines entering Quwait. Iran can expect MOAB munitions to be dropped in a similar way should they react against US Forces when Israel opposes the Syrians invasion of Lebanon next week. There was no nuke in 1991. The story comes from the same Iranian press who reported that Iran force landed a US Fighter last week. Total BS from a BS source, with a BS "vet". i was checking out MOAB's last night on youtube, some scary shit so you think this is going to get underway next week? hope you are wrong "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 490531 United States 10/09/2008 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolute BS. Like that could have been kept a secret. Besides, the article referrs to the "veteran" as a 4th level engineer, later reduced to a "3d level". What in the hell is that? No such thing as "levels" in the army. I guess they could be referring to a pay grade - however, I kind of doubt an E-4 (specialist) would know much about the secret dropping of a nuke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 521561There most certainly are skill training levels attached to different ranks in the Army. A combat engineer private graduating Advanced Individual Training will be awarded a 12B10 rating (for instance) upon promotion to E5 in the unit I was in you were required to take advanced training courses in order to get your 12B20. I'm not certain about a 12B40 rating but there are different types of combat engineers, perhaps a 12 Echo has a rating system that high. A 12E10 is a tactical nuclear specialist, you will find nothing about these guys on the web, they used to call them straight out of or classrooms to go to classified instruction in the deployment of different varieties of small tactical devices. Those devices are used in battle a lot more than you might think. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 519348 United States 10/09/2008 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i was checking out MOAB's last night on youtube, some scary shit Quoting: maluso you think this is going to get underway next week? hope you are wrong The United States likes to operate at night because we train at night. Our weapons are optimized for night operations. It scares the shit out of the enemy when you can hit them and they don't know where you are. The Syrians, however, have the opposite problem. They need 24hr light for visual optics. The Moon's phase will be brightest next week. [link to stardate.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 521796 United States 10/09/2008 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm more than aware of the type of skill level that you refer to [i.e. your example of 12B20 (sergeant), 12B30 (staff sergeant) and 12B40 (sergeant first class)]. I spent 11 years active duty and ETS'd as an 11M30 in 2000. However, they are never referred to just as a Level 3 or Level 4. I also am familiar with the tac nuke specialist's in the Artillery Branch (my former roommate was one). However, although they may trained to use a nuke arty round, they didn't fire one during the Gulf. |