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The Official Halloween Thread: #1 (Topic REAL ZOMBIES)

 
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Todays topic: Zombies!

There is a long history in both legend and pure fiction of the risen dead coming to life and needing to feed on the living to survive. Indeed, there is a strong correlation between the modern concept of the Zombie and the Classical Vampire. For the purposes of this thread, however, the assumption will be that Vampires drink blood and do not eat human flesh.

So, what do we know about real Zombies?

Well, it has been confirmed that drugs have been used in modern times to approximate this “Living dead” state. This is not inherently a true “Living Dead” Zombie of course, but rather a modified living person. Still, who knows what can truly qualify as death? Certainly, the historical criteria of no discernible heart beat or breath can be achieved by many drugs!

This link takes you to a youtube clip about Zombie drugs being used in modern times.

Link: [link to www.youtube.com]

It is an interesting look at the forced use of drugs to create a Zombie like state...

Modern Americans will likely be able to understand the implications of such things if wide spread deployment was ever to be achieved!

But Drugs... Well, that does not make a “REAL ZOMBIE” does it? No, of course not. Zombies eat flesh and their state can spread, right?

In recent times there has been a resurgence of Zombie lore, spread by the author of “The Zombie Survival Guide” Max Brooks. Link to Wikipedia about that book:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

While listed as humor, the book is written in a way that takes itself very seriously. Max Brooks has never claimed openly that it is anything but a real survival guide. It is thought to be humor mainly because his father is the famous comic actor and movie maker Mel Brooks.

A small sub-genre of fiction has grown up using this material. Again, there is little tongue in cheek about much of these works, and the assumption that it is fictional is left to the reader.

Here is one such work:

It goes into the “historical” Zombie Attack at Hierakonpolis. It is written in a clear and concise, almost technical fashion, with just enough absurdity to keep the reader guessing as to it's true intent.

Link: [link to www.archaeology.org]

But that is still fiction, you may cry out. Where are the “REAL” Zombies!

O.K. Here you go!

This first report is the written account of a man that claims to have seen a real Zombie.

It is a fairly short, and anonymous piece. While on a Zombie “joke” site, the intent of this piece seems eerily legitimate.

Link: [link to ww2.zombieinitiative.org]

And finally, this is video that is said to be of actual Zombies attacking a person.

It is in a foreign language and seems to be taken from helicopter.

Only 45 seconds long, it is not bloody but appears to be done in some sort of night vision.

Link: [link to video.google.com]


There is a wealth of real Zombie information out there in the world with the expansion of the world wide web. It seems as time passes that the validity of at least “Zombie Similar” events is beyond doubt.

Please help us find more Zombie related information for this first Official Halloween Report thread.

Tomorrows thread will be on Vampires, so please hold related material to that until then!

Thank you all.

Be aware, Stay alive!

Dancer
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The Serpent and the Rainbow comes to mind.

Also, Zora Neale Hurston's accounts of Zombies on her trip to Haiti.
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The Serpent and the Rainbow comes to mind.

Also, Zora Neale Hurston's accounts of Zombies on her trip to Haiti.
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I do wonder, are there any Haitian myths about Zombies being used to kill others? As tools of Death and destruction?

If so, is there said to be a lot of biting or cannibalism involved?


:)

And What of modern cannibalistic practices and such, is there a possible link to some Zombie similar state?

Think of Mad cow for instance, I know there is a human variant that one catches from eating human flesh.

This is called "Kuru".

Interesting science link:

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
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I also think we should have a "costume" party on Halloween night here...

:)

I'll furnish candy corn and soda.

Bring your own alcohol and we will have ghost stories and such!

:)

D.

*You know, for people with no real life friends or that live in the middle of nowhere like me?

:)

**But I am ready for the Zombiepocolypse!
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Great, when the Zombies get here, I guess I part alone...

:)

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Great, when the Zombies get here, I guess I part alone...

:)

D.
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It will also help to have some claymores sitting around. For once, it really doesn't matter which type, mine or sword!

All useful!

D.
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The Serpent and the Rainbow comes to mind.

Also, Zora Neale Hurston's accounts of Zombies on her trip to Haiti.



I do wonder, are there any Haitian myths about Zombies being used to kill others? As tools of Death and destruction?

 Quoting: Dancer


Check out Passage of Darkness by Davis. Explains the process well.

Also, here's a pic of the "real" zombie.
[link to suskeenwiske.ophetwww.net]
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The Serpent and the Rainbow comes to mind.

Also, Zora Neale Hurston's accounts of Zombies on her trip to Haiti.



I do wonder, are there any Haitian myths about Zombies being used to kill others? As tools of Death and destruction?



Check out Passage of Darkness by Davis. Explains the process well.

Also, here's a pic of the "real" zombie.
[link to suskeenwiske.ophetwww.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 283565


That Zombie fellow looks eerily familiar...

I wonder sometimes if that is the basic NWO plan for us?

Simple shamblers doing the work we are told without thought or a hint of distraction.

:)

Take care.

D.
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OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!
I am sooo into Zombie survival horror.

Check out permutedpress.com!!!!!! They have alot of less known zombie books.

Funny thing is a 28 days/ weeks later zombie type scenario is not that far fetched. Walking-flesh eating dead is more of a religious Armageddon IMHO. But a rage virus is fairly easy to imagine.

Rabies,
Ebola,
Hanta,
Marburg

all have possibilities.

as a matter of a fact, not many ppl know that many Ebola victims gain consciousness immediately before they bleed out and have been known to flail about right before death. One documented case in India involved a man standing up, walking out of a hospital, walking to a busy street bleeding out in before a crowd of onlookers. I have seen video of this phenomenon and these people are in no way in control of their own bodies.

Creepy huh?

"Ebola destroys the brain more thoroughly than does Marburg, and Ebola victims often go into epileptic convulsions during the final stage. The convulsions are generalized grand mal seizures-the whole body twitches and shakes, the arms and legs thrash around, and the eyes, sometimes bloody, roll up into the head. The tremors and convulsions of the patient may smear or splatter blood around. Possibly this epileptic splashing of Ebola is one of Ebola's strategies for success-it makes the victim go into a flurry of seizures as he dies, spreading blood all over the place, thus giving the virus a chance to jump to a new host-a kind of transmission through smearing."

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Destroy the frontal lobe, accelerate the activity in the the right place for rage and then, look out!

Another interesting thing that may link some of this all together is that when people "go crazy" and cannot think rationally, they often use biting as a weapon.

In fact it is used as a sign of sever mental impairment by medical professionals and rescue personnel.

I looked into this about a week or so ago and found that there is a form of Herpes that effects the brain and can cause similar aggressive behavior, coupled with a loss of self control. You become angry and cannot control your behavior at all.

It is not very transmissible however, so that takes it out of the Zombie Plague range of things.

Take care friends.

D.
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I have wondered about the Zombie Code. At some point while feasting on the flesh of a victim, they stop their attack, and a new zombie joins the club. Is this because when the person finally dies, they no longer taste good? Shit, they are still warm, what is the problem? How come they will senselessly gorge on the living, but not eat their zombie buddies? How is this 'code' passed on so quickly? Do they ostracize zombies who feast on their own kind? We need answers!
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Todays topic: Zombies!

There is a long history in both legend and pure fiction of the risen dead coming to life and needing to feed on the living to survive. Indeed, there is a strong correlation between the modern concept of the Zombie and the Classical Vampire. For the purposes of this thread, however, the assumption will be that Vampires drink blood and do not eat human flesh.

So, what do we know about real Zombies?

 Quoting: Dancer

Zombie Survival Guide is great!
Also, the history of vampires is pretty loaded, and thought t have started because some guy was hanged out side a village and then buried the same day before sundown. It was said people say someone walking the night they thought was he, and the coffin was empty the next morning. Likely a case where he was not dead but comatose enough to appear such.... added to the tales of Count Dracula.

Happy Halloween!


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yeah..zombies are real..and so is the bible..

MY GOD..im surrounded by dumb fuks..

HELP ME..............
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yeah..zombies are real..and so is the bible..

MY GOD..im surrounded by dumb fuks..

HELP ME..............
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hiding

LOL
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This is a Halloween thread! So play along silly!

Gah! This is not about Proving that this is really real, just showing that it might be real enough to make it interesting.

There is a lot of information out there of interest, if you have the will to see it!

Still, it wouldn't harm you to play along a bit and practice up on those social skills....

Would it?

:)

Take care.

D.
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YOU LOOK DEMONIC YOURSELF DANCER !!!!!!!!!!!! DEMONIC EYES
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YOU LOOK DEMONIC YOURSELF DANCER !!!!!!!!!!!! DEMONIC EYES
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Sure, but definitely not a Zombie. For one thing, I don't eat meat at all, much less human...

If you have not yet, I suggest viewing the Google video linked in the first post.

It is either a quality hoax or we are seeing something very unusual!

Here, I will relink it: [link to video.google.com]

:)

It is pretty telling... Of something...

D.
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Happy Halloween!


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I wonder who buried someone under the mulch?

I mean who puts a body in the flower bed?

Besides John Wayne Gacy or Henry Lee Lucas?


Don't piss Geogal off!Just my advice.
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OP, checkout [link to fvza.org]

seems plausible, but the real headscratcher is if not real, why do they have a museum dedicated to them on an army base in N.M.

also about 8 yrs ago, was talking to an old military guy and he told me that back in the 50's, the Russians were trying to make a chemical using lobsters that they could drop on other armies
they were interested in lobsters because they are canalbilistic and were hoping to make something that would turn attacking troops on each other
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OP, checkout [link to fvza.org]

seems plausible, but the real headscratcher is if not real, why do they have a museum dedicated to them on an army base in N.M.

also about 8 yrs ago, was talking to an old military guy and he told me that back in the 50's, the Russians were trying to make a chemical using lobsters that they could drop on other armies
they were interested in lobsters because they are canalbilistic and were hoping to make something that would turn attacking troops on each other
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It is an interesting question isn't it? On the fringes of society, certain topics seem almost de rigour..

I will check out the link, it has a "fun" feel to it!

:)

You have to admit, as long as you know how to stop it, setting loose Zombies that create other Zombies is a good idea for Warfare. (As long as you have no morals that is...)

D.
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YOU LOOK DEMONIC YOURSELF DANCER !!!!!!!!!!!! DEMONIC EYES


Sure, but definitely not a Zombie. For one thing, I don't eat meat at all, much less human...

If you have not yet, I suggest viewing the Google video linked in the first post.

It is either a quality hoax or we are seeing something very unusual!

Here, I will relink it: [link to video.google.com]

:)

It is pretty telling... Of something...

D.
 Quoting: Dancer


It's definitely an awesome video, one way or the other.
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Actually, there is a disease that is possible in the tropics that Does make one into a Zombie. There is no cure and once it takes you, the only thing you can do is basically carry out bodily functions and stuff like that.
[link to www.fvza.org]
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Actually, there is a disease that is possible in the tropics that Does make one into a Zombie. There is no cure and once it takes you, the only thing you can do is basically carry out bodily functions and stuff like that. I forget what it's called, or I would put a Wikipedia link up. I think I saw mention of the disorder on another web-site called cracked.com.
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It's called the sleeping sickness.

The disease that makes people zombies

The very name, sleeping sickness, may give the impression that it is an uncomplicated ailment, which passes after a while, much like a mild fever.

But in reality, the complete opposite is true, says Professor Sanjeev Krishna of St George's, University of London and the Wellcome Trust.

At the African hospital where he works in Lucala, about a 10-hour drive from the Angolan capital of Luanda, he see many patients with classic symptoms of the disease.

"At first it will cause headaches, aching muscles and maybe itching.

Nightmarish qualities

"But in the late stages, when the parasites have invaded the brain, the signs become more obvious and ominous.

"Victims find it hard to concentrate. They become irritable, their speech is slurred and they stop eating.


This is an infection that carries nightmarish qualities, reducing many of its victims to a zombie-like state
Professor Krishna

"Their daily rhythm becomes disrupted to such an extent that they can't sleep at night and find it almost impossible to stay awake during the day.

"It even becomes very hard for them to do simple mental tasks, such as drawing a straight line.

"This is an infection that carries nightmarish qualities, reducing many of its victims to a zombie-like state before they go into a coma and die.

"Those that do survive can be left with irreparable brain damage," he said.

In Uganda, every third person is at risk of getting sleeping sickness and in some regions it is a bigger killer than HIV/Aids, he said.

There are no vaccines, no preventative medicines and you can be re-infected - providing you survive the first bout.

Future hope

Sleeping sickness kills about 50,000 people worldwide, according to official records. But Professor Krishna said the real toll was probably much higher.

"At any one time, 60 million people are living under the threat of getting sleeping sickness, but only one in 20 of them will have access to even basic medical facilities."

He said tests used to diagnose and the drugs used treat the disease were decades old and lacking.

"Melarsoprol, which has been around for over half a century, contains arsenic and kills at least 5% of the patients who take it.

"It is so potentially lethal it would never be licensed today, yet we have little choice but to engage in this medical Russian roulette," he said.

The parasite that causes sleeping sickness, called Trypanosoma brucei and carried by tsetse flies, is also learning how to become resistant to the available drugs, making the discovery of new treatments a necessity, he said.

He is hopeful. "With this new sequencing breakthrough, investment and better surveillance and treatment I believe the disease can finally be put to sleep for good."


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It is an interesting question isn't it? On the fringes of society, certain topics seem almost de rigour..



D.
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Check out my thread on Lucis Trust.I couldn't make shit like that up if I tried.
Cui Bono?
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It is an interesting question isn't it? On the fringes of society, certain topics seem almost de rigour..



D.

Check out my thread on Lucis Trust.I couldn't make shit like that up if I tried.
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Will do!

I was just reading the FVZA material! This is truly interesting and complex work! I think I will reference it in tomorrows (later today actually) thread on Vampires.

Take care friends.

D.
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