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Barack Obama -- NLP Master Hypnotist?

 
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The world has been observing Obama for quite some time now. For many years I have taken interest in understanding cult awareness and mind control techniques. I had a sales job where they tried to train us in NLP to help increase our sales. It is Neuro-Linguistic Programming, a method of hypnosis they tried to use on us, the sales people to increase our sales and also teaching us how to use this on our customers. I protested that I was not at all comfortble with this and ultimately I was fired. To see lively demonstrations of hypnosis using NLP Google: Darren Brown and watch some of his You Tube videos.

With all due respect to people's appreciation of Obama please view this:



We need to be ever vigilant and willing to call into question even our most cherished beliefs.

An Examination of Obama’s Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches
[link to www.internet-grocer.net]
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Look, isn't everyone? LOL
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Look, isn't everyone? LOL
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LOL -- Nothing! You haven't read the document.

[link to www.internet-grocer.net]

Or Google You Tube videos of Derren Brown

Who do you know that has Obama's oratory, mesmerizing skills or the NLP skills of Derren Brown?

Thread: Real life hypnosis by NLP expert Derren Brown
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Obama logo is creepy!
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I figured out months ago he was brainwashing his bots. That's why I can't stand to watch the Messiah's ads on TV or watch any of his speeches.
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this guy explains it in lamens terms

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Look, isn't everyone? LOL
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I remember a politician running for Prime Minister in Canada kept saying "Canadians want...." over and over again.

I used to think... "I'm a Canadian and I don't want that"... but it is a very good technique for the weak minded.

Another one is to get people to say that a group or party consists of people who aren't well educated, or are rednecks, or along that line. Who wants to vote for a party that everyone says is uneducated? That one works well too.

Lots of examples everywhere.

Pay attention folks.... they all use them.
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I figured out months ago he was brainwashing his bots. That's why I can't stand to watch the Messiah's ads on TV or watch any of his speeches.
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It's best you don't because of the covert hypnosis used. However, the more aware you are, then the more you can guard your mind when you happen to hear or see him. His image is everywhere!

I couldn't stand to listen to him but couldn't pinpoint it until I read this document.

[link to www.internet-grocer.net]

I was already aware of him having no substance yet speaking smoothly and I picked up immediately on his hand gestures especially the not so subtle "flipping the bird" at Hillary.

The audience knew what he was doing. Listen to them!



[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

[link to weblogs.newsday.com]



[link to www.internet-grocer.net]
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I remember a politician running for Prime Minister in Canada kept saying "Canadians want...." over and over again.

I used to think... "I'm a Canadian and I don't want that"... but it is a very good technique for the weak minded.

Another one is to get people to say that a group or party consists of people who aren't well educated, or are rednecks, or along that line. Who wants to vote for a party that everyone says is uneducated? That one works well too.

Lots of examples everywhere.

Pay attention folks.... they all use them.
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Good point. Barack's mantras are "Yes we can" and "Change"

When you study this document [link to www.internet-grocer.net] it will really open your eyes.

Here's a different link to the same document: [link to www.pennypresslv.com]
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Old Jedi mind trick.

You don't need to see my papers.
These are not the radicals you are looking for.
You need to vote for me.


yoda
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Old Jedi mind trick.

You don't need to see my papers.
These are not the radicals you are looking for.
You need to vote for me.


yoda
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Yes, Messiah! stoned
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Old Jedi mind trick.

You don't need to see my papers.
These are not the radicals you are looking for.
You need to vote for me.


yoda
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Indeed he has learned the way of the Jedi.
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LOL. I think NLP works on lonely old people and stupid storm troopers, but you're not gonna win an election based on it. Of course, it's a tool in the arsenal of every politician and con artist these days, so I'm glad people are educating themselves on it.
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LOL. I think NLP works on lonely old people and stupid storm troopers, but you're not gonna win an election based on it. Of course, it's a tool in the arsenal of every politician and con artist these days, so I'm glad people are educating themselves on it.
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I don't care who get's pissed at me for saying this, but NLP is a straight rippoff of ancient Scientology 'upper levels' stuff. Hubbard's stuff about Operating Thetans controlling and adjusting the pictures in their engram banks is obviously what NLP calls "submodalities". Gore and Kerry showed obvious, REALLY obvious, signs of Scn drilling, just compare their doofy mannerisms to other Scn whackjobs like Karen Black and Carol Lynley were from the earlier tech of the 70's that NLP squirreled. Not to mention Gore trained for immitating all of Reagan's characteristic mannerisms in an attempt to restimulate the sheeple's engrams, only to find they were caused by early manifestations of autism. And look at the classic Scn tactics for handling enemies that the Dems are using, such as "investigating" the spouses of interviewers that ask them incriminating questions.

Mark my words, you will see more republicans blackmailed on sex-charge setups, and you will see more critical republicans going suddenly silent on the web.

I'm not a pin whore, but i'm asking mods for a pin of this thread, because ex Scn insiders know that the above is reasonably accurate.

You see, Nixon had Scn on his enemies list, they're probably the ones who took him down(notice Agnew used words coined by hubbard like 'nattering'), and Scn appear to have increased their control of the dem party. Spot the posts comparing which candidate 'blinks' more. Scn trainees have the blinking reflex drilled out of them because it is considered a "failure to confront". And they have said for decades that when shit hits the fan they will be the only ones sufficiently trained to 'take over'. Why do you think Clinton and the current mob talk about their "rule" over America instead of their SERVICE to it. They are no strangers to duping Blacks, for example by planting black "Baptist Ministers" to pitch blacks on scientology being just as good for 'self improvement'. Let's not forget that Hubbard was quoted with saying that "Blacks are so dumb they won't even register on an E-Meter".

If you're a mod you should pin this, especially if you are a black mod that supports obama, because NO ONE ELSE HERE is going to tell you this.
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bump
bump for the day shift
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Paper: Obama Clearly Using Covert Hypnosis Methods



[link to www.aapsonline.org]

Oratory—or hypnotic induction?
October 25th, 2008

Is Barack Obama a brilliant orator, captivating millions through his eloquence? Or is he deliberately using the techniques of neurolinguistic programming (NLP), a covert form of hypnosis developed by Milton Erickson, M.D.?

A fundamental tool of “conversational hypnosis” is pacing and leading—a way for the hypnotist to bypass the listener’s critical faculty by associating repeated statements that are unquestionably accurate with the message he wants to convey.
In his Denver acceptance speech, Obama used the phrases “that’s why I stand here tonight,” “now is the time,” and “this moment” 14 times. Paces are connected to the lead by words such as “and,” “as,” “because,” or “that is why.” For example, “we need change” (who could disagree?)…and…that is why I will be your next President.”

Techniques of trance induction include extra slow speech, rhythm, tonalities, vagueness, visual imagery, metaphor, and raising of emotion. Hypnotists often have patients count. In a speech after the primaries closed, Obama said: “Sixteen months have passed (paused)…Thousands (pause) of miles…(pause)…Millions of voices….”

Hypnotists call this a distraction technique: sending the dominant hemisphere on an assignment involving linguistic processes, thus opening the nondominant hemisphere to suggestion.

Hand gestures can be used as hypnotic anchors, or to aid in hypnotic command implantation. They can be difficult to distinguish from innocent gestures used for emphasis. Obama, however, uses some gestures extraordinarily often and for very specific words such as “believe” and “chose.” His characteristic thumb-and-forefinger gesture looks like a hand holding a pencil—as if you were in a voting booth. The gesture of pointing sends the subconscious message that a person in authority is giving a command.

Obama actually said at one time: “a light will shine down from somewhere, it will light upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself, ‘I have to vote for Barack.’”

You will not choose to vote for Barack: you will “have to.” It is not a logical choice, but rather one directed by a mystical (subconscious) force. What purpose would a politician have for making such a statement? Obama used it only once. Perhaps he stopped either because he realized it was too obvious or because Hillary Clinton and John McCain ridiculed him for it.

Obama’s logo is noteworthy. It is always there, a small one in the middle of the podium, providing a point of visual fixation. Unlike other presidential logos, one looks through it, not at it. It might just be the letter “O,” but it also resembles a crystal ball, a favorite of hypnotists.

Obama is clearly having a powerful effect on people, especially young people and highly educated people—both considered to be especially susceptible to hypnosis. It is also interesting that many Jews are supporting a candidate who is endorsed by Hamas, Farakhan, Khalidi, and Iran.

While some believe that hypnosis is not real, others believe that it is very powerful, and very dangerous in the wrong hands. Dr. Erickson, father of modern hypnosis, was adamant that his techniques should only be used by physicians. In 1954, the U.S. Supreme Court decided in Leyra v. Denno that a confession obtained using hypnosis could not be used against the suspect in court.

A 66-page, extensively footnoted but unsigned article “An Examination of Obama’s Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches” is available at: [link to www.freedomsphoenix.com]
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I remember a politician running for Prime Minister in Canada kept saying "Canadians want...." over and over again.

I used to think... "I'm a Canadian and I don't want that"... but it is a very good technique for the weak minded.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380499


Exactly.. anyone who falls under another's spell, has to be susceptible to it.

People are really so dumbed down they can fall for this crap?


Stay off the MSG, folks.
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My educated, intelligent older brother (57 years old) is head-over-heels with Obama but can only talk about the man in an emotional, subjective way. He won't address any issues like no records of his college claims, calling for mandatory draft of all men & women 18-40yrs old, escalate troops in Afghanistan and bomb Pakistan and much more . . .
My brother's response is 100% emotional when he talks about Obama -- like my brother has regressed to being a teenager over someone he's in love with.

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My educated, intelligent older brother (57 years old) is head-over-heels with Obama but can only talk about the man in an emotional, subjective way. He won't address any issues like no records of his college claims, calling for mandatory draft of all men & women 18-40yrs old, escalate troops in Afghanistan and bomb Pakistan and much more . . .
My brother's response is 100% emotional when he talks about Obama -- like my brother has regressed to being a teenager over someone he's in love with.

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Obama's use of hidden hypnosis techniques in his speeches

The media had better get on this one because everyone is interested in this story and blown away by this document.

Unless you have a better explanation for why nothing sticks to this guy, he has no accomplishments, draws crowds of hundreds of thousands chanting "change" and "yes we can" with no idea of what it means, there is a cult-like infatuation going on around him, he has no experience and is about to become President ....Read this.


[link to www.scribd.com]
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Perhaps Obama is just a good speaker like John F. Kennedy?

The article originated from AAPS which is accused for being a store front and a lobby group for the GOP. The article is also criticised by other MD's. Just read them in the comments section below the artile in AAPS.
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Great thread. I started a similar one a few days ago and it has some important commentary: Thread: Obama Uses Hypnosis Like Hitler!!!

Obama is very deliberately, and expertly hypnotizing a large percentage of his audiences using Ericksonian conversational hypnosis, which is much, much deeper in its penetration of the subjects'/victims' subconsious minds, and is more many times more dangerous and effective than NLP. I studied both Dr. Erickson's work as well as having trained extensively NLP which I applied in a therapeutic context. Both technologies can be used for good or for evil. Which purpose is Obama using this ultimate human control mechanism for??? I hope we don't find out soon!
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My educated, intelligent older brother (57 years old) is head-over-heels with Obama but can only talk about the man in an emotional, subjective way. He won't address any issues like no records of his college claims, calling for mandatory draft of all men & women 18-40yrs old, escalate troops in Afghanistan and bomb Pakistan and much more . . .
My brother's response is 100% emotional when he talks about Obama -- like my brother has regressed to being a teenager over someone he's in love with.

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Oh I bet you are a REAL debater LOL. He probably just feels sorry for you and doesn't want to rub it in your face
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L Gore and Kerry showed obvious, REALLY obvious, signs of Scn drilling,..... Not to mention Gore trained for immitating all of Reagan's characteristic mannerisms in an attempt to restimulate the sheeple's engrams,

 Quoting: L. Ron Butterfly 23003

Good observation! I noticed this as well about Gore back then. His appearance and gestures seemed to be mimicking Reagan.
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The world has been observing Obama for quite some time now. For many years I have taken interest in understanding cult awareness and mind control techniques. I had a sales job where they tried to train us in NLP to help increase our sales. It is Neuro-Linguistic Programming, a method of hypnosis they tried to use on us, the sales people to increase our sales and also teaching us how to use this on our customers. I protested that I was not at all comfortble with this and ultimately I was fired. To see lively demonstrations of hypnosis using NLP Google: Darren Brown and watch some of his You Tube videos.

With all due respect to people's appreciation of Obama please view this:

hf

We need to be ever vigilant and willing to call into question even our most cherished beliefs.

An Examination of Obama’s Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches
[link to www.internet-grocer.net]
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Oh Shit!!! I been hipmotized!!
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Just watched the stem cell signing presentation.
Again, it is obvious Mr. Obama reads from teleprompters.
The effect is a rythmic, metronome-like gaze shifting that is entrancing.
Watch and listen carefully to the few times he speaks with eyes forward. These are the fragments of speech inserted into your minds during the break in repetition.

For fun, watch Mr. Obama um and ahh his way through any part of the program that is not scripted.
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I don't know what to think anymore.All these people support nlp because they say if used properly theres no problem with it.
Theyr idea of using it properly means making people do positive things without them even knowing it by making them feel theyr doing this out of free will.
Idon't care what properly means but i beleive you have no right to manipulate and mind controul someone in any way.
I f this is wat this is right for them they should think twice.
Obama is a very bizarre individual for me.I still don't really understand why people voted for him.I can't get over the fact that maybe people just blindly voted for him because he's black or watever.I dont think they voted for him for rational reasons.





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