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Mars astronauts should never return to Earth, says Buzz Aldrin

 
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The first astronauts sent to Mars should be prepared to never return to Earth, according to moonwalker Buzz Aldrin.

Like the European pioneers who set out for America they should set out knowing they will spend their lives there, the second man on the Moon said. Though presumably they would hope to survive longer than their first harsh winter.


Some scientists fear a mission to Mars would be expensive and the astronauts would struggle to survive, much like in the film Red Planet

In an interview the outspoken former astronaut said the Red Planet, which appears to have fast reserves of frozen water at each pole, has far greater potential for habitation than the Moon.

'It is nearer terrestrial conditions, much better than the Moon and any other place,' the 78-year-old said.

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'It is easier to subsist, to provide the support needed for people there than on the Moon.'

Buzz Aldrin along with Neil Armstrong and Michael Collins spent eight days travelling to and from the Moon in July 1969, aboard Apollo 11.

US astronaut Buzz Aldrin believes that astronauts should be prepared to stay on Mars for the long-term if a mission is launched to the Red Planet

But while the Moon is 238,000 miles away, the closest Mars comes to our planet is 34 million miles and furthest at 250 million miles. A round trip would take at least a year and a half.

'That's why you (should) send people there permanently,' Aldrin told AFP.

'If we are not willing to do that, then I don't think we should just go once and have the expense of doing that and then stop.'

In the film Red Planet starring Val Kilmer, astronauts sent to our neighbouring planet struggle to survive after their equipment fails. Many scientists believe this is a distinct possibility if such a mission goes ahead.

They argue that sending humans to Mars is a waste of money compared with unmanned missions that have more scientific benefit and don't put astronauts under psychological stress or in danger of cosmic rays.

But Aldrin defended the epic journey. He insisted such a trip would be 'innovative, new, pioneering.'

NASA and the European Space Agency (ESA) are sketching tentative plans for a manned mission to Mars that would take place around 2030 or 2040.

The mission would entail about six people, with life-support systems and other gear pre-positioned for them on the Martian surface.

Aldrin said the vanguard could be joined by others, making a colony of around 30 people.

'They need to go there more with the psychology of knowing that you are a pioneering settler and you don't look forward to go back home again after a couple a years,' he said.

'At age 30, they are given an opportunity. If they accept, then we train them, at age 35, we send them. At age 65, who knows what advances have taken place. They can retire there, or maybe we can bring them back.'
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I would volunteer for a trip to Mars in a heartbeat, even if I knew it was a one-way trip.
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You would get to see the pyramids first hand
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wow, you would get there and it would be a great big dry and dusty desert

bet a person would go mad within 5 years
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It won't happen for a really long time. We don't have the tech to shield a ship that will protect a man from 6 months of intense radiation. DOA if we tried.
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It won't happen for a really long time. We don't have the tech to shield a ship that will protect a man from 6 months of intense radiation. DOA if we tried.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


I've seen designs that place the engine and mass of ship between the crew compartment and the sun (the source of the radiation) that look practical
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Aldrin get off your lazy high horse and get up there !
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wow, you would get there and it would be a great big dry and dusty desert

bet a person would go mad within 5 years
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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The first astronauts sent to Mars should be prepared to never return to Earth, according to moonwalker Buzz Aldrin.

 Quoting: mopar28m


Look, why do you think the other astronauts gave him the nickname 'Buzz'... he's a fucking psychiatric mental case, didn't you already know that, all these years later???
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wow, you would get there and it would be a great big dry and dusty desert

bet a person would go mad within 5 years
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor

*********

HOW do you think the majjyteams carry their black helicos?
on their back?

TAW-50
TR3-b/a

and other not so exotic crafts.

Germans went first on Mars.

Spacecomm and astronauts (mostly clones) DO travel 2 the distant starsys ...

Many of them been DESTROYED by dark side aliens.

Heard of that one wich fell above vietnam?

'Turkish' ufo destroying meteorite in flight?

N TESLA inventions were used (copied...)to test ABOVE the siberia TUNGUSKA 1908...

AND lotta more but I prefer ypu to die yourself 4 that knowledge.

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What would Aldrin know? He only travelled to a disused film set for his moment of glory. Is he jealous?
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wow, you would get there and it would be a great big dry and dusty desert

bet a person would go mad within 5 years

*********

HOW do you think the majjyteams carry their black helicos?
on their back?

TAW-50
TR3-b/a

and other not so exotic crafts.

Germans went first on Mars.

Spacecomm and astronauts (mostly clones) DO travel 2 the distant starsys ...

Many of them been DESTROYED by dark side aliens.

Heard of that one wich fell above vietnam?

'Turkish' ufo destroying meteorite in flight?

N TESLA inventions were used (copied...)to test ABOVE the siberia TUNGUSKA 1908...

AND lotta more but I prefer ypu to die yourself 4 that knowledge.

ohohohohoh

We got a BUG!!!
Mayday!Mayday!

****

snowball...
BURROW GO GREEN GO GREEN!



silent.
Earthlings...are...

...
anyway.It's too late 4 their STRUCTURE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 537688


HAWK ... is that you ????
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I would volunteer for a trip to Mars in a heartbeat, even if I knew it was a one-way trip.
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I'm sorry, but that will not be permitted by the Reptilian Alliance. GLP needs you as the voice of reason, and you do fairly well in that capacity.
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It won't happen for a really long time. We don't have the tech to shield a ship that will protect a man from 6 months of intense radiation. DOA if we tried.


I've seen designs that place the engine and mass of ship between the crew compartment and the sun (the source of the radiation) that look practical
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


I have seen them too, They look practical but they can't hit that 6 month target yet. To be honest I hope someone comes up with something. I would like to see that mission in my lifetime. One way trip. Like ET says I would do it..lol
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wow, you would get there and it would be a great big dry and dusty desert

bet a person would go mad within 5 years

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

:jerrys:

Mars needs Unabombers too...
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LOL!
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In about 250 years, the Mars colony should be well established and ready to fight a war with Earth for their independence. Maybe by then we'll have taxed them enough to pay off the national debt.
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Don't bet on it! People do the same thing moving to the Phoenix area and/or Palm Springs, California. The big dusty desert if it has a zipcode of 85262 will cost you about $200,000 and UP, for just a decent lot to build a house on. That won't even get you a full acre. Those are closer three hundred thousand to start with. The house by the way has to have minimum square footage of 3000 and must not allow any parked vehicles of ANY kind to be visible from the street (ie: if you have a motor home and a boat and some snow mobiles, build more garage space fucker!) Building out here almost always entails drilling a well, too. That can cost anywhere from 40k up to 140k depending how deep you have to go. Then the water has to be filtered multiple times, softened, and finally hit wilth UV light before you can use it. Cost of the average filtration system? Oh, about $30 to $50 thousand dollars.

A "smallish" house in this dry and dusty part of the world will set you back a hair over a million for the little ones and up to 20 million for some of the larger estates out here. And that is AFTER the damned things have crashed and the values have dropped by 40 percent since two years ago!

Some people LIKE the desert and are willing to pay big bucks for the privilege of living there. Mars? WOW! I hope they get some really good anti-aging and/or age reversing treatments soon. I'm going to need them if I want to head there and by God I do!

I can't think of a better way to use the next 35 or 50 years of my life. With the new drugs and age reversing treatments, if I could look and physically be 35 and actually be about 75, it would be incredible. I'd do it in a heartbeat!




wow, you would get there and it would be a great big dry and dusty desert

bet a person would go mad within 5 years
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor
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Don't bet on it! People do the same thing moving to the Phoenix area and/or Palm Springs, California. The big dusty desert if it has a zipcode of 85262 will cost you about $200,000 and UP, for just a decent lot to build a house on. That won't even get you a full acre. Those are closer three hundred thousand to start with. The house by the way has to have minimum square footage of 3000 and must not allow any parked vehicles of ANY kind to be visible from the street (ie: if you have a motor home and a boat and some snow mobiles, build more garage space fucker!) Building out here almost always entails drilling a well, too. That can cost anywhere from 40k up to 140k depending how deep you have to go. Then the water has to be filtered multiple times, softened, and finally hit wilth UV light before you can use it. Cost of the average filtration system? Oh, about $30 to $50 thousand dollars.

A "smallish" house in this dry and dusty part of the world will set you back a hair over a million for the little ones and up to 20 million for some of the larger estates out here. And that is AFTER the damned things have crashed and the values have dropped by 40 percent since two years ago!

Some people LIKE the desert and are willing to pay big bucks for the privilege of living there. Mars? WOW! I hope they get some really good anti-aging and/or age reversing treatments soon. I'm going to need them if I want to head there and by God I do!

I can't think of a better way to use the next 35 or 50 years of my life. With the new drugs and age reversing treatments, if I could look and physically be 35 and actually be about 75, it would be incredible. I'd do it in a heartbeat!





wow, you would get there and it would be a great big dry and dusty desert

bet a person would go mad within 5 years

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 400833


are you claiming people who live in Phoenix are NOT crazy ???
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wow, you would get there and it would be a great big dry and dusty desert

bet a person would go mad within 5 years

*********

HOW do you think the majjyteams carry their black helicos?
on their back?

TAW-50
TR3-b/a

and other not so exotic crafts.

Germans went first on Mars.

Spacecomm and astronauts (mostly clones) DO travel 2 the distant starsys ...

Many of them been DESTROYED by dark side aliens.

Heard of that one wich fell above vietnam?

'Turkish' ufo destroying meteorite in flight?

N TESLA inventions were used (copied...)to test ABOVE the siberia TUNGUSKA 1908...

AND lotta more but I prefer ypu to die yourself 4 that knowledge.

ohohohohoh

We got a BUG!!!
Mayday!Mayday!

****

snowball...
BURROW GO GREEN GO GREEN!



silent.
Earthlings...are...

...
anyway.It's too late 4 their STRUCTURE.


HAWK ... is that you ????
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor



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I would go too for sure.
I think the people who go should use the natural resources of the planet to build shelters. They could make bricks out of the sand and dirt by adding water from the ice at the Mars north pole. Build up some walls, and live in the house they make. And make other buildings instead of dragging a bunch of plastic and metal to the planet. It can be done.
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What would Aldrin know? He only travelled to a disused film set for his moment of glory. Is he jealous?
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Moment of glory? lol
That was one of the major marks of human history and evolution.


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wow, you would get there and it would be a great big dry and dusty desert

bet a person would go mad within 5 years
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Nope. Bring along loads of video games so people will not get bored.
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I thought we already went to Mars?
I thought we were at war on Mars?
Didn't Siding Spring detonate two of our atomic bommbs at those bases on Mars?
Isn't that why we see two glowing spots on Mars when you do a phase shift in IR photos?
What about all that floating debris in the atmosphere and in the dust?

Astronauts should NEVER RETURN TO MARS!
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I thought we already went to Mars?
I thought we were at war on Mars?
Didn't Siding Spring detonate two of our atomic bommbs at those bases on Mars?
Isn't that why we see two glowing spots on Mars when you do a phase shift in IR photos?
What about all that floating debris in the atmosphere and in the dust?

Astronauts should NEVER RETURN TO MARS!
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

The first astronauts sent to Mars should be prepared to never return to Earth, according to moonwalker Buzz Aldrin.

Like the European pioneers who set out for America they should set out knowing they will spend their lives there, the second man on the Moon said. Though presumably they would hope to survive longer than their first harsh winter.


Some scientists fear a mission to Mars would be expensive and the astronauts would struggle to survive, much like in the film Red Planet

In an interview the outspoken former astronaut said the Red Planet, which appears to have fast reserves of frozen water at each pole, has far greater potential for habitation than the Moon.

'It is nearer terrestrial conditions, much better than the Moon and any other place,' the 78-year-old said.

'What a ride!' Space tourist and Russian cosmonauts return to Earth in 'flawless' landing

'It is easier to subsist, to provide the support needed for people there than on the Moon.'

Buzz Aldrin along with Neil Armstrong and Michael Collins spent eight days travelling to and from the Moon in July 1969, aboard Apollo 11.

US astronaut Buzz Aldrin believes that astronauts should be prepared to stay on Mars for the long-term if a mission is launched to the Red Planet

But while the Moon is 238,000 miles away, the closest Mars comes to our planet is 34 million miles and furthest at 250 million miles. A round trip would take at least a year and a half.

'That's why you (should) send people there permanently,' Aldrin told AFP.

'If we are not willing to do that, then I don't think we should just go once and have the expense of doing that and then stop.'

In the film Red Planet starring Val Kilmer, astronauts sent to our neighbouring planet struggle to survive after their equipment fails. Many scientists believe this is a distinct possibility if such a mission goes ahead.

They argue that sending humans to Mars is a waste of money compared with unmanned missions that have more scientific benefit and don't put astronauts under psychological stress or in danger of cosmic rays.

But Aldrin defended the epic journey. He insisted such a trip would be 'innovative, new, pioneering.'

NASA and the European Space Agency (ESA) are sketching tentative plans for a manned mission to Mars that would take place around 2030 or 2040.

The mission would entail about six people, with life-support systems and other gear pre-positioned for them on the Martian surface.

Aldrin said the vanguard could be joined by others, making a colony of around 30 people.

'They need to go there more with the psychology of knowing that you are a pioneering settler and you don't look forward to go back home again after a couple a years,' he said.

'At age 30, they are given an opportunity. If they accept, then we train them, at age 35, we send them. At age 65, who knows what advances have taken place. They can retire there, or maybe we can bring them back.'
 Quoting: mopar28m


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George Noory to Mars researcher Robert Zubrin: "When do we plan to put moon bases on Mars? Within the decade?"

Actually, he didn't say that. But doesn't it sound like something he would say?
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What would Aldrin know? He only travelled to a disused film set for his moment of glory. Is he jealous?
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Never been to the Moon, never will they leave in there WASTE of money rockets. SCAM!!