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Georgia may be guilty of war crimes - BBC

The British Broadcasting Corporation is reporting that it has obtained evidence suggesting that Georgia may have committed war crimes during its attack on South Ossetia in August. The BBC says it gathered the evidence during the first unrestricted visit to South Ossetia since the conflict.

Describing Georgia’s military assault as ‘reckless’, UK Foreign Secretary David Miliband said he had raised the ‘war crimes’ allegations with the government in Tbilisi.

The Georgian President, Mikhail Saakashvili, has denied that the Georgian army committed war crimes during its 5-day conflict with South Ossetian forces backed by the Russian military.

BBC correspondent Tim Whewell said in a radio programme that witnesses told him that Georgian soldiers shelled South Ossetian houses and targeted civilians trying to flee the fighting.

Whewell added that an international investigative organisation, Human Rights Watch, had also found evidence of the indiscriminate use of military force by the Georgian military.
[link to www.russiatoday.com]
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Georgia accused of targeting civilians

By Tim Whewell
BBC File On 4

Dr Marina Kochieva says her car was targeted by a Georgian tank

The BBC has discovered evidence that Georgia may have committed war crimes in its attack on its breakaway region of South Ossetia in August.

Eyewitnesses have described how its tanks fired directly into an apartment block, and how civilians were shot at as they tried to escape the fighting.

Research by the international investigative organisation Human Rights Watch also points to indiscriminate use of force by the Georgian military, and the possible deliberate targeting of civilians.

Indiscriminate use of force is a violation of the Geneva Conventions, and serious violations are considered to be war crimes.

The allegations are now raising concerns among Georgia's supporters in the West.

British Foreign Secretary David Miliband has told the BBC the attack on South Ossetia was "reckless".

He said he had raised the issue of possible Georgian war crimes with the government in Tbilisi.

The evidence was gathered by the BBC on the first unrestricted visit to South Ossetia by a foreign news organisation since the conflict.

More here:
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]
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Re: BBC finally comes clean who was the actual aggressor in the S Ossetian conflict!!!! Wide range Georgian warcrimes uncovered!!!!
Where are the loud mouths who were accusing Russia of wanting to take back all countries and even attack the former eastern block states in the process?

Remember how they hit everyone who was smelling and defending the truth then?
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Where are the loud mouths who were accusing Russia of wanting to take back all countries and even attack the former eastern block states in the process?

Remember how they hit everyone who was smelling and defending the truth then?
 Quoting: FreeFlow


Propaganda + tiemunch = Cold War v.2
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Propaganda + tiemunch = Cold War v.2
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I am still mad at those renown GLP residents who attacked me during the conflict where I was one of the first who pointed out a Georgian aggression and not Russia's, can't they admit they were wrong?

Probably you're correct AC, they were all part of the cold war poopaganda!
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shhhh... the people don't want to hear this.
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shhhh... the people don't want to hear this.
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Yeah it's obvious, keeps their life lies going ...
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Propaganda + tiemunch = Cold War v.2

I am still mad at those renown GLP residents who attacked me during the conflict where I was one of the first who pointed out a Georgian aggression and not Russia's, can't they admit they were wrong?

Probably you're correct AC, they were all part of the cold war poopaganda!
 Quoting: FF 456207


What is hard to comprehend is that America was so deeply propagandized from the 60's - 80's about the Red Menace, they have a total disconnect from state of the current Russian government. That's why ZBIG will find a willing audience to believe CW2, Georgia was just a test bed of sentiment.

Stalin was a master of uniting diverse groups under the perception of common "perceived enemy". Guess who is tapped for that role under the next administration, eh?

I'm going to go teach english in Moscow.
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"We are all Georgian's now" - John McCain
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Propaganda + tiemunch = Cold War v.2

I am still mad at those renown GLP residents who attacked me during the conflict where I was one of the first who pointed out a Georgian aggression and not Russia's, can't they admit they were wrong?

Probably you're correct AC, they were all part of the cold war poopaganda!
 Quoting: FF 456207


The BBC also reported that WTC 7 fell before it actually did.

They are prone to mistakes just as much as anyone else.

S. Ossetian seperatists were firing upon the Georgians for at least 3 days beore the Georgians counter-attacked.

This included the use of artillery and they took forward positions on the ground.

Why do YOU feel the Georgians should have just sat back and done nothing about this?

As far as shooting at civilians, I don't see how the seperatists could have avoided shooting from civilian positions if they were inside the city. Once they do that they are really not civilian positions anymore.
"Everybody lies."
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Since it will never hit the US news ... you know, that Liberal Press ... Bump for pin??? bump
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Re: BBC finally comes clean who was the actual aggressor in the S Ossetian conflict!!!! Wide range Georgian warcrimes uncovered!!!!
The BBC also reported that WTC 7 fell before it actually did.

They are prone to mistakes just as much as anyone else.

S. Ossetian seperatists were firing upon the Georgians for at least 3 days beore the Georgians counter-attacked.

This included the use of artillery and they took forward positions on the ground.

Why do YOU feel the Georgians should have just sat back and done nothing about this?

As far as shooting at civilians, I don't see how the seperatists could have avoided shooting from civilian positions if they were inside the city. Once they do that they are really not civilian positions anymore.
 Quoting: G. House


Link?

Facts?

Evidence?
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Georgia may be guilty of war crimes - BBC

The British Broadcasting Corporation is reporting that it has obtained evidence suggesting that Georgia may have committed war crimes during its attack on South Ossetia in August. The BBC says it gathered the evidence during the first unrestricted visit to South Ossetia since the conflict.

Describing Georgia’s military assault as ‘reckless’, UK Foreign Secretary David Miliband said he had raised the ‘war crimes’ allegations with the government in Tbilisi.

The Georgian President, Mikhail Saakashvili, has denied that the Georgian army committed war crimes during its 5-day conflict with South Ossetian forces backed by the Russian military.

BBC correspondent Tim Whewell said in a radio programme that witnesses told him that Georgian soldiers shelled South Ossetian houses and targeted civilians trying to flee the fighting.

Whewell added that an international investigative organisation, Human Rights Watch, had also found evidence of the indiscriminate use of military force by the Georgian military.
[link to www.russiatoday.com]
 Quoting: FreeFlow

BBC owned by Arabs and is a Proaganda site...
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We knew this already!

The confirmation for these crimes was the fact that Bush, Big Dick and Condi came to Saakashvili rescue.


Four War Criminals!


Obama will prosecute them for their crimes against humanity.
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BBC owned by Arabs and is a Proaganda site...
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Pfffht ...
So must be DerSpiegel then which reported basically the same a month ago ...
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We knew this already!

The confirmation for these crimes was the fact that Bush, Big Dick and Condi came to Saakashvili rescue.


Four War Criminals!


Obama will prosecute them for their crimes against humanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385288


Your lips are blue from all that koolaid.
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Re: BBC finally comes clean who was the actual aggressor in the S Ossetian conflict!!!! Wide range Georgian warcrimes uncovered!!!!
The BBC also reported that WTC 7 fell before it actually did.

They are prone to mistakes just as much as anyone else.

S. Ossetian seperatists were firing upon the Georgians for at least 3 days beore the Georgians counter-attacked.

This included the use of artillery and they took forward positions on the ground.

Why do YOU feel the Georgians should have just sat back and done nothing about this?

As far as shooting at civilians, I don't see how the seperatists could have avoided shooting from civilian positions if they were inside the city. Once they do that they are really not civilian positions anymore.


Link?

Facts?

Evidence?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 540750


[link to www.stratfor.com]

There had been a great deal of shelling by the South Ossetians of Georgian villages for the previous three nights, but while possibly more intense than usual, artillery exchanges were routine.
 Quoting: Stratfor


Now granted that's just one link but I saw many other sources that said basically the same think as the events unfolded.

FreeFlow of course never acknowledges that the S. Ossetians were firing upon the Georgians for days before the Georgians attacked.

What were the so-called Russian peacekeeprs doing all that time?

If they were there to keep the peace I mean?

Why did they allow the people they were supposedly there to protect to constantly GOAD the Georgians into attacking them?

FreeFlow of course NEVER friggen answers that. He just likes to spam the S. Ossetians were victims propaganda.
"Everybody lies."
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Re: BBC finally comes clean who was the actual aggressor in the S Ossetian conflict!!!! Wide range Georgian warcrimes uncovered!!!!
The BBC also reported that WTC 7 fell before it actually did.

They are prone to mistakes just as much as anyone else.

S. Ossetian seperatists were firing upon the Georgians for at least 3 days beore the Georgians counter-attacked.

This included the use of artillery and they took forward positions on the ground.

Why do YOU feel the Georgians should have just sat back and done nothing about this?

As far as shooting at civilians, I don't see how the seperatists could have avoided shooting from civilian positions if they were inside the city. Once they do that they are really not civilian positions anymore.


Link?

Facts?

Evidence?


[link to www.stratfor.com]


There had been a great deal of shelling by the South Ossetians of Georgian villages for the previous three nights, but while possibly more intense than usual, artillery exchanges were routine.

Now granted that's just one link but I saw many other sources that said basically the same think as the events unfolded.

FreeFlow of course never acknowledges that the S. Ossetians were firing upon the Georgians for days before the Georgians attacked.

What were the so-called Russian peacekeeprs doing all that time?

If they were there to keep the peace I mean?

Why did they allow the people they were supposedly there to protect to constantly GOAD the Georgians into attacking them?

FreeFlow of course NEVER friggen answers that. He just likes to spam the S. Ossetians were victims propaganda.
 Quoting: G. House



Reading comprehension.

artillery exchanges were routine.

Meaning, both sides were shooting at each other on a regular basis.

Your evidence is pretty thin.
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yea, regardless of the link, this WREAKS of bsflag bsflag bsflag
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The BBC also reported that WTC 7 fell before it actually did.

They are prone to mistakes just as much as anyone else.

S. Ossetian seperatists were firing upon the Georgians for at least 3 days beore the Georgians counter-attacked.

This included the use of artillery and they took forward positions on the ground.

Why do YOU feel the Georgians should have just sat back and done nothing about this?

As far as shooting at civilians, I don't see how the seperatists could have avoided shooting from civilian positions if they were inside the city. Once they do that they are really not civilian positions anymore.


Link?

Facts?

Evidence?


[link to www.stratfor.com]


There had been a great deal of shelling by the South Ossetians of Georgian villages for the previous three nights, but while possibly more intense than usual, artillery exchanges were routine.

Now granted that's just one link but I saw many other sources that said basically the same think as the events unfolded.

FreeFlow of course never acknowledges that the S. Ossetians were firing upon the Georgians for days before the Georgians attacked.

What were the so-called Russian peacekeeprs doing all that time?

If they were there to keep the peace I mean?

Why did they allow the people they were supposedly there to protect to constantly GOAD the Georgians into attacking them?

FreeFlow of course NEVER friggen answers that. He just likes to spam the S. Ossetians were victims propaganda.



Reading comprehension.

artillery exchanges were routine.

Meaning, both sides were shooting at each other on a regular basis.

Your evidence is pretty thin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 540750


No my reading comprehension is just fine.

It says the S. Ossetians were shelling Georgian villages.

It doesn't say the Georgians were shelling the S. Ossetians in fact although it doesn't mention it here, supposedly there was supposed to be a cease fire in effect between both side but the S. Ossetians had been breaking it for three straight days.

But you people never want to acknowledge that.
"Everybody lies."
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Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

No mention of the mossad and IDF participating in this festival of death.
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What G-house never acknowledges is the fact that Georgia started a large scale military operation against the capital of S Ossetia on the 7th and was intentionally targeting civilians with rocket launchers among other heavy weaponry.

The article names it what both sides did before that date anyway.
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War Crimes is the keyword here, we are not talking about fire exchanges ...
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Georgia may be guilty of war crimes - BBC

The British Broadcasting Corporation is reporting that it has obtained evidence suggesting that Georgia may have committed war crimes during its attack on South Ossetia in August. The BBC says it gathered the evidence during the first unrestricted visit to South Ossetia since the conflict.

Describing Georgia’s military assault as ‘reckless’, UK Foreign Secretary David Miliband said he had raised the ‘war crimes’ allegations with the government in Tbilisi.

The Georgian President, Mikhail Saakashvili, has denied that the Georgian army committed war crimes during its 5-day conflict with South Ossetian forces backed by the Russian military.

BBC correspondent Tim Whewell said in a radio programme that witnesses told him that Georgian soldiers shelled South Ossetian houses and targeted civilians trying to flee the fighting.

Whewell added that an international investigative organisation, Human Rights Watch, had also found evidence of the indiscriminate use of military force by the Georgian military.
[link to www.russiatoday.com]

BBC owned by Arabs and is a Proaganda site...
 Quoting: anonymous 540675


Owned by Arabs?

Are you outta yer fuckin' mind?

It's a Zionist-Communistic cabal of homosexuals, you stupid git!

scream
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G. House. Exchanges. Back and forth. Tit for tat.

Please get a dictionary.

I can't deal with koolaid drinkers anymore. You folks only see what you want to see. It's very tiresome.
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rantrussia lined up tanks along georgia border month before they invaded..ossettia was told by russia to start some shit with georgia so we can come on in..cause we ready now..then russia killed and displaced 200,000 georgia citizens and destroyed huge economic vital and housing portions of georgia ..russia wants area cause it is a straight shot to iran middleast and cuts down on travel time for russia.it is stretegicly valuable to russia as a fast coridor to iran.look on maps .
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^^You sir are a gross liar^^
200,000 pfffht?
And the rest what you said is distorted and taken out of context either.
I wonder why that Georgia case has so much childish stoopid psy-ops involved.
Are you a mega-phoney by any chance?
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G. House. Exchanges. Back and forth. Tit for tat.

Please get a dictionary.

I can't deal with koolaid drinkers anymore. You folks only see what you want to see. It's very tiresome.
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No, I'll say it again.

There was supposed to be an agreed upon cease fire by BOTH SIDES at the time.

The Georgians were honoring it.

The S. Ossetians were not.

The Russian "peacekeepers" looked on.

If you read ALL the news sources a much different picture is seen than in the limited selection FreeFlow always presents.
"Everybody lies."
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If you read ALL the news sources a much different picture is seen than in the limited selection FreeFlow always presents.
 Quoting: G. House

Limited selection, nice conditioning try ...

In in earlier threads I have presented numerous articles from respected news sites like reuters that prove you're wrong with your tries to twist reality.

They just didn't fit into the agenda of world domination bully USrael.
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If you read ALL the news sources a much different picture is seen than in the limited selection FreeFlow always presents.

Limited selection, nice conditioning try ...

In in earlier threads I have presented numerous articles from respected news sites like reuters that prove you're wrong with your tries to twist reality.

They just didn't fit into the agenda of world domination bully USrael.
 Quoting: FF 456207


You only post articles that:

Show the Russians to be good guys.

Put anything Western in a bad light.

Put anything about Israel in a bad light.

That being said.

In the Georgian affair.

The Russians did absolutely no "peacekeeping".

They let the S. Ossetians repeatedly break a cease-fire and GOAD the Georgians into attacking them.

Basically they set the Georgians up.

End of friggen story.

Casulties claimed by the Russians to be over 1400 have never been proven to be more than about 108.

And I'm not even going to go into the matter of Russia "absorbing" S. Ossettia into mother Russia with little comment from the S. Ossetians after it was all over.
"Everybody lies."
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I don't need the BBC to tell me who was at fault. Any person with the least bit of common sense could have figued it out long ago.

If Georgia had been successful with its South Ossetia invasion would they have pulled out? But yet Russia won and pulled out of Georgia once things settled down. That tells you right there who the agressors were. Muslims led by zionists trying to secure the Caspian Sea oil feilds using genecide. Its an old old old story.





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