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Ten steps to salvation

 
Scribe to the Prophet Elijah
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Ten steps to salvation
You are saved because God chose you first not because you chose him first. It's not our act of faith which initiated the new birth.


THE STEPS OF SALVATION

1. election - He chooses some people to be saved.


2. the call - the gospel - speaking to a person


3. conversion - repentance & trust Christ for salvation.


4. regeneration - secret act of God being born again.


5. justification - right legal standing. We are declared forgiven and righteous in His sight.


6. adoption - membership in God's family.


7. sanctifiction - right conduct of man - a progressive work of God that makes us more and more free from sin and more like Christ


8 perseverance - kept by God's power and will persevere as Christians until the end of their lives. Only those who persevere to the end are truly born again.


9. separation of the soul from the body, going immediately into the presence of God usually through death or the resurrection event of 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, and in the case of Enoch.


10. glorification - receiving a resurrection body, when Christ returns and raises from the dead the bodies of all believers and reunites them with their souls and changes their body into perfect bodies like unto Christ's perfect body.

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I wasn't elected so I sorta got fucked from the very beginning. Sucks to be me I guess. Oh well I like the heat.
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I believe in God and Jesus existed but you present strict rules writ by man

It is hogwash
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Deer Prophet,

Currently I have subscribed to your mailing list ...
*and waiting ;-)*

Remember last month April/May? ... I had you in mind a coupla times, while I was at work ... my garderner job .... a coupla days I was spending time, poking fun at you, giving you laughs ... from a distance....telepathically?


The sane and SAINT, were viewed insane, ridiculed ..

... you've been tru much ordeal, e.g. homeless ... and
going against the grain ....

catch you later!!!


ryeght?

Th.U
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1. election - He chooses some people to be saved.

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 Quoting: Scribe to the Prophet Elijah

That one has always baffled me.
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Instead we have Aliens doing the work

At least they are proven
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I believe in God and Jesus existed but you present strict rules writ by man

It is hogwash
 Quoting: Free Store.



reason and reasonable


there ARE Boundaries (mind the Capitol)

look, living an.archy = doing what ever FEELS good

(the holy boundaries/the new frontier:)
=not hurting yourself and/or hurting otherzzzzzz



hurting yourself and/or hurting the other(s)

IST VERBOTEN

VERBOTTEN BUY DECREE.
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I don't follow if it feels good...

I follow the Love in our Soul..It has memory and direction
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I believe in God and Jesus existed but you present strict rules writ by man

It is hogwash



reason and reasonable


there ARE Boundaries (mind the Capitol)

look, living an.archy = doing what ever FEELS good

(the holy boundaries/the new frontier:)
=not hurting yourself and/or hurting otherzzzzzz



hurting yourself and/or hurting the other(s)

IST VERBOTEN

VERBOTTEN BUY DECREE.
 Quoting: jndjs





......trying...... to correct
or hold a mirror to their face = acceptable.

-thinkgs you know about you
-thingks the other(s) knows about you
-thinks what you think to know about the other(s)
-the Blind Spot = God (Allah only knows that place/plain)
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I believe in God and Jesus existed but you present strict rules writ by man

It is hogwash
 Quoting: Free Store.



Actually, these are not the rules of men. Neither are these ten rules but the STEPS to salvation which are taken right out of the Word of God, the AV 1611 King James Bible written by holy men of God under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God.

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Yes..you said it..writ by Holy Men

the Koran etc
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Does God need Men to write for Him?
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1. election - He chooses some people to be saved.

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That one has always baffled me.
 Quoting: Rota


The main thing to understand is that the omnipotent and omniscient God chooses vessels of honour and dishonour. They all work into His plan of the ages.

The facts are these, not in any particular order:

-man has been given a free will.


-man has been given the gospel of God. He can choose or reject the counsel of God.


-God does not interfere with our will, yet to some heathen and even believers who are not yet fully walking in His revealed Will, He in His love for mankind does elect to reveal His eternal purpose by removing them spiritually to view the truths of Heaven and His glory, and also Hell, as a warning to others. I have seen this to be the experience of many. This does not guarantee their salvation, however, as they must do their part in becoming familiar with His Word and of obeying it.


-It is God Who chooses His own people and gives them vessels of honour, and so He knows those persons who are His from the very beginning, for they seek Him in turn when He has called them, and they seek to do His Will.



Hope this is of some help.
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Does God need Men to write for Him?
 Quoting: Free Store.



God uses men to write His Word which is the authorized 1611 King James Version. Even the Ten Commandments were written by His Son, Exodus 31:18, as follows:

And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
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Well Scribe Man is born into sin
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Deer Prophet,

Currently I have subscribed to your mailing list ...
*and waiting ;-)*

Remember last month April/May? ... I had you in mind a coupla times, while I was at work ... my garderner job .... a coupla days I was spending time, poking fun at you, giving you laughs ... from a distance....telepathically?


The sane and SAINT, were viewed insane, ridiculed ..

... you've been tru much ordeal, e.g. homeless ... and
going against the grain ....

catch you later!!!


ryeght?

Th.U
 Quoting: jndjs


So what is your relationship with God now?
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Well Scribe Man is born into sin
 Quoting: Free Store.


Well, man has free will to either walk in the light or in the darkness and to continue in sin in defiance to God.

Because of sexual sins there are billions that were never meant to be born, but as God has given free will to all men, here we are beset with these billions of workers of iniquity. Mind you, there are two sides to the doctrine of predestination -the predestination of the born again and the predestination of those who remain in their sins.
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Well Scribe Man is born into sin
 Quoting: Free Store.


Well, man has free will to either walk in the light or in the darkness and to continue in sin in defiance to God.

Because of sexual sins there are billions that were never meant to be born, but as God has given free will to all men, here we are beset with these billions of workers of iniquity. Mind you, there are two sides to the doctrine of predestination -the predestination of the born again and the predestination of those who remain in their sins.
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God needs no one to write for Him...It is written in Mens Hearts

If a Holy Man says you are less deserving to move in to heaven because you are a prostitute again I say it is Hogwash
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sin

IN DUTCH

zin = sentence

zin = appetite

zin = necessity

zing, lach huil bid werk en bewonder.....'


HAIL ELIJAH

Hail VICTORY
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Do you know for sure it was God the Creator that gave Moses the 10 commandments?

Moses was a man gifted with an ability to look beyond trials and travails and to focus on the big picture. His time was a post cataclysm time, so many stories about Moses relate to events that occurred during and after the last pole shift. The parting of the Red Sea was not due to anything more than heaving of the Red Sea bed and the normal heaping of waters attracted to the pull of the passing comet. Just as water drops have surface tension, so do these water heaps, and Moses waded through where he perceived there were shallows, leading the way. He scarcely had a choice. Certain death, in the form of the Egyptian army, was at this heels.

Why did Moses lead his people to wander in the wilderness for 40 years. Well, they were just doing what everyone does after a cataclysm - wander. Life isn't good anywhere, so everyone is on the move, hoping. Velikovsky is an author who correctly understood the relationship between the story of the Exodus and the last pole shift. The gloom, the waxy carbohydrate condensate that melted in water to form what looked like milk - the land of milk and honey. Moses felt his people, the Jews, must be special, protected in some way, because they survived. He was not altogether mistaken, as he gave The Call almost continuously, while wandering around in the gloom worrying about how to feed his people, and as one genuinely in the Service-to-Other orientation, he was assisted. This situation should not be construed to mean that the Jews are in any way special or assisted, today. One hesitates to give up any such title or perception, even if it has become but an illusion.

Did Moses descend from the mountain top with the 10 Commandments carved in stone, having spoken to a burning bush? Yes and no. Moses often climbed mountain tops, which in the desert are more like hills, and did so to get the view. When he relayed that he spoke with an entity in the bushes, which he could not make out but which was of such bright light that he could scarcely look at it, how did this translate over time? The bush was so bright ... folks who had never seen an entity in light form could only assume a fire. And did Moses descend with the 10 Commandments written in stone? This was the last thing Moses would have been inclined to do, as he was not a control freak or given to hauling stone tablets around on top of all his other burdens. This story was cooked up later, and attributed to Moses, who was no longer around to refute it. Unlike Jesus, who spoke to the masses in many places and repeated his messages, Moses had few followers. The lie grew larger than the truth, as there were few to speak the truth.

The 10 Commandments show the hand of entities strongly in the Service-to-Self orientation, who answered The Call of humans wishing to tightly control others under the guise of religious edicts. Thou shalt not ... thou shalt not ... thou shalt not - where does it say love another as thy self? Where does it say to practice the Golden Rule, to do unto others as you would have them do unto you? The 10 Commandments are almost entirely fear and rule based, leaving little leeway for one to follow one's heart. Had the 10 Commandments not been packaged as the handiwork of Moses and God's angels, with the necessity of keeping up appearances, the word love would not have made the list at all.
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I wasn't elected so I sorta got fucked from the very beginning. Sucks to be me I guess. Oh well I like the heat.
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See...this is the reason I get so upset when people say things like Scribe said...that "God chooses some..."

The REAL Truth, my friend, is that God has chosen ALL to be His, not just some. The difference is what choice YOU make toward God. It just so happens that God is Omniscient (all-knowing) and already knows who is His by their choice, and He knows who isn't His by their rejection of Him. I wish people like Scribe would quit tweaking the Truth around, because it discourages people and makes them think that God is mean and heartless, like some mean kid up there frying a few ants with a magnifying glass while graciously sparing a few others. The God I know is NOT like that!! His will is that ALL PEOPLE would come to know Him and accept him as their God, receiving pardon through the work that Jesus did on the cross. GGRRRrrrrrr!!!! Do you see why this upsets me so? PLEASE don't let stuff like this form your opinion of God. Instead, seek Him on your own, read the Bible, pray, and ask Him to show Himself to you in ways that you will understand it to be Him. He will be faithful to you.
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The one step to Salvation

1. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
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The one step to Salvation

1. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: OnlyHuman



YES!! And since Jesus fulfilled (satisfied) the Mosaic law, there is only one way back to God now...Through Jesus, by the work he completed on the cross. Freely given...people just have to say "okay, I accept". God Himself will do the rest of the work in you!
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1. You are an idiot.
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I believe the best way for salvation only takes one step, love GOD with all your heart, soul, mind, and strenght, if you do this, the rest will take care by itself.
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You people are totally fucked.
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YES!! And since Jesus fulfilled (satisfied) the Mosaic law, there is only one way back to God now...Through Jesus, by the work he completed on the cross. Freely given...people just have to say "okay, I accept". God Himself will do the rest of the work in you!
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Amen!

God Himself will do the rest of the work in you!

I like that you said "IN" you, not "FOR" you.

So true.
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You are saved because God chose you first not because you chose him first. It's not our act of faith which initiated the new birth.


THE STEPS OF SALVATION

1. election - He chooses some people to be saved.


2. the call - the gospel - speaking to a person


3. conversion - repentance & trust Christ for salvation.


4. regeneration - secret act of God being born again.


5. justification - right legal standing. We are declared forgiven and righteous in His sight.


6. adoption - membership in God's family.


7. sanctifiction - right conduct of man - a progressive work of God that makes us more and more free from sin and more like Christ


8 perseverance - kept by God's power and will persevere as Christians until the end of their lives. Only those who persevere to the end are truly born again.


9. separation of the soul from the body, going immediately into the presence of God usually through death or the resurrection event of 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, and in the case of Enoch.


10. glorification - receiving a resurrection body, when Christ returns and raises from the dead the bodies of all believers and reunites them with their souls and changes their body into perfect bodies like unto Christ's perfect body.

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 Quoting: Scribe to the Prophet Elijah

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1. You are an idiot.
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