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Obama Will Win Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and Georgia

 
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Obama Will Win Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and Georgia
Obama Will Win Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and Georgia
By zenprise - Friday, October 31st, 2008 at 7:04 AM

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Donít believe me? Well I come armed with data to support my claim, so keep an open mind.



My entire premise is based on very high turnout rates among black voters. The Deep South boasts the largest concentrations of blacks in the country, so shifts in turnout can have a significant effect on election results. The model Iíve built assumes that black voters participate at a rate of 90%, a dramatic increase to be sure, while white voter turnout only increases to about 65%.



To get started, letís look at the demographics of the Deep South:



State Demographics
Black
White

Georgia (GA)
30%
70%

South Carolina (SC)
30%
70%

Louisiana (LA)
33%
67%

Mississippi (MS)
37%
63%

Alabama (AL)
27%
73%




Now letís apply our voter turnout model to these numbers to see what the demographics of the voting population looks like.



Voting Demographics
Black
White
% of whites (absolute)
needed
for Obama victory

GA
37.24%
62.76%
12.76%

SC
37.37%
63.12%
12.63%

LA
41.71%
58.94%
8.29%

MS
45.65%
55.15%
4.35%

AL
33.87%
66.13%
16.13%




The third column is the percentage of white voters that Obama needs to get in order to win. Letís compare these numbers to John Kerryís totals among white voters in 2004:



White Vote by State
Bush
Kerry
Kerry white vote %

GA
1,885,540
976,797
34%

SC
924,054
475,126
34%

LA
1,083,724
559,473
34%

MS
660,216
296,861
31%

AL
1,160,513
515,939
31%




So right off the bat, itís clear that Obama needs far fewer white votes than Kerry. Given some of the racial factors at play, thatís a good thing for Obama. But how realistic is it for Obama to actually get the white vote percentages that he needs? Luckily, the Democratic primaries were very competitive this year, so we have some good data on white support for Obama in the Deep South.




Kerry 2004
white vote %
% of
white
votes for
Kerry
that
Obama
needs
for
victory
State
primary
white
vote %
for
Obama
% White
support in
primary for
Obama (of
the total
voter
population)
% of
Clinton
(and
Edwards)
voters
needed
to
convince

GA
34%
37%
43%
15%
-10%

SC
34%
39%
25%
8%
18%

LA
34%
26%
30%
10%
-5%

MS
31%
17%
25%
8%
-11%

AL
31%
52%
28%
9%
34%






The columns here are a bit wordy, so let me explain my assumptions and calculations. The first column is a repeat of the final column from the previous table. The second column simply calculates the % of white voters that supported Kerry that Obama needs to win over. The third column is Obamaís white vote percentages in the Democratic primary.



The fourth column is really important. I assumed that the pool of white Democratic primary voters roughly maps to the white voters that supported Kerry in í04. Using that assumption, we can predict that Obama starts off with 15% of the white vote in Georgia, for example. In other words, Obama would expect to get 43% of the 34% of white voters that Kerry got. He only needs 11.49% (as a percentage of the total electorate) of the non-black vote to win, so he already projects to win the state.



The final column represents this percentage as a percentage of the white votes cast for other candidates (Clinton and Edwards) in this yearís primary. As you can see, Obama already has all the support he needs to win MS, LA and GA. In South Carolina, Obama needs about 4.14% to win. That works out to 16% of Clintonís white voters. In case itís not clear, the reason for doing this is because it is unlikely that white support for Obama will come from the pool of white voters that supported George W. Bush.



There are basically two assumptions that this model is based on that can be challenged. First and most obvious are the turnout assumptions. The second is the assumption that the voters in the Democratic primaries map proportionatel to Kerry voters. ( I guess one other assumption built into the model worth mentioning is that the state level demographics cited in the beginning are identical to the demographics of the voting age population of each state. That could swing the numbers in either direction by a couple of points.)



In case youíre wondering, even if youíre conservative and assume a 75% turnout among blacks, Obama still needs less than 50% of Clinton supporters to shift to Obama in order for him to win LA, MS and GA. South Carolina comes in at 33% and Alabama at about 52%.



Even though (with the exception of Georgia) no polling outfit is giving Obama much of a chance in the South (nor for that matter is Obama actively campaigning there), Iím willing to go out on a limb and say that Obama will almost certainly win Mississippi, Louisiana * and Georgia, where the Bob Barr effect will also be at play. Obama has a good shot in South Carolina as well. Alabama is the only long shot in the group.



Another important point is that this demographic tidal wave will probably take down Sen. Chambliss in Georgia, and Sen. Wicker in MS, assuming Obama voters vote for Dems in the down ballot races as well.



So to all you Obama supporters in the heart of the old Confederacy, your vote really matters. If you or someone you know thought you couldnít paint your state blue this Tuesday, show them this article for motivation.


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Re: Obama Will Win Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and Georgia
Lookin' like MONTANA is even going pink rather than red!

Maybe even blue by Tuesday!
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11/02/2008 07:33 PM
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Re: Obama Will Win Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and Georgia
I follow your thinking - but I believe you're dead wrong.

McCain will win Louisiana HANDILY, Mississippi and South Carolina with a healthy margin, and will win Georgia by a slim margin.
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11/02/2008 07:34 PM
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Re: Obama Will Win Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and Georgia
Half the blacks in the deep South are very apathetic as far as anything outside their own little world. I would be surprised to see 50% turnout of all balck voters down there.
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11/02/2008 07:51 PM
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Re: Obama Will Win Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and Georgia
Lookin' like MONTANA is even going pink rather than red!

Maybe even blue by Tuesday!
 Quoting: Pollyannuh



Montana has BEEN pink for over a week.

Dang, Polly - you're really slipping in your poll watching.

Catch up already.
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Re: Obama Will Win Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and Georgia
Lookin' like MONTANA is even going pink rather than red!

Maybe even blue by Tuesday!



Montana has BEEN pink for over a week.

Dang, Polly - you're really slipping in your poll watching.

Catch up already.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 540092



Slacker.





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