Former Ron Paul Senior Aide & Bob Barr backer makes plea to Libertarians to back McCain/Palin | |
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susano User ID: 385176 United States 11/04/2008 02:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That you could have ever claimed to have supported Ron Paul is now feeling like you were insincere. Ron Paul refused to endorse the GOP nominee and is supporting Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party. Of course, you knew that, right, Seneca? |
Seneca (OP) User ID: 542123 United States 11/04/2008 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looks to me that this guy is an infiltrator, who maybe helped influence the Paul campaign into pulling out of the race...he's no libertarian Quoting: Anonymous Coward 482097"Ron Paul’s Personal Travel Aide in his 1988 Libertarian Presidential campaign...[and] Ron Paul’s Congressional Campaign Coordinator and as his Senior Congressional Aide for 7 years, 1997-2004." That's fairly far fetched, AC. I supported Ron Paul in 1988. I donated to and campaigned for Ron Paul since last year. Dondero is correct. |
Seneca (OP) User ID: 542123 United States 11/04/2008 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seneca, this is EXTREMELY deceptive. Dondero is a neocon who satffed for Ron Paul a long time ago and then turned on Ron Paul. He was fired. He went on to smear Ron Paul all over the internet. He HATES Ron Paul and has an obsession with him. He's a Zionist neocon. Quoting: susano 385176That you could have ever claimed to have supported Ron Paul is now feeling like you were insincere. Ron Paul refused to endorse the GOP nominee and is supporting Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party. Of course, you knew that, right, Seneca? It sounds as if you would prefer an Obama victory, Susan? And a ad hominem attack on Dondero does not affect in any way the substance of his arguments. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 482097 United States 11/04/2008 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looks to me that this guy is an infiltrator, who maybe helped influence the Paul campaign into pulling out of the race...he's no libertarian Quoting: Seneca"Ron Paul’s Personal Travel Aide in his 1988 Libertarian Presidential campaign...[and] Ron Paul’s Congressional Campaign Coordinator and as his Senior Congressional Aide for 7 years, 1997-2004." That's fairly far fetched, AC. I supported Ron Paul in 1988. I donated to and campaigned for Ron Paul since last year. Dondero is correct. Dondero is either a moron or someone who never truly supported Ron Paul or libertarian ideals...i don't think it's far-fetched at all i wouldn't trust Palin to run a village...and McCain is a pile of shit who has screwed this country every way he can...if you vote for McCain after having supported Ron Paul, you simply didn't understand Ron Paul's message |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 202319 United States 11/04/2008 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama is fundamentally opposed to virtually all libertarian stances on all issues Quoting: Seneca[link to canadafreepress.com] Sunday, November 2, 2008 - Eric Dondero I have been a lifetime Libertarian Party activist, for over 25 years. I’ve served in numerous capacities, including on the Libertarian National Committee, as a Libertarian State Rep. candidate, and as Ron Paul’s Personal Travel Aide in his 1988 Libertarian Presidential campaign. I’ve also served as Ron Paul’s Congressional Campaign Coordinator and as his Senior Congressional Aide for 7 years, 1997-2004. This election year, I’ve been supporting Libertarian Presidential candidate Bob Barr. As a matter of fact, I’m the very guy who recruited his running mate Wayne Root into the race. Since the Spring, I’ve been the Party’s lead petitioner around the Nation. I’ve collected tens of thousands of signatures to get Barr/Root on the ballot in Illinois, Ohio, Kentucky, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Maine and Rhode Island. However, I was greatly encouraged by McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin for his VP. Palin has a solid libertarian background. In 2005/06 she was the guest speaker at two Libertarian Party meetings in Anchorage. She has been called a “libertarian” by many in Alaska politics and in the Anchorage media. She even received the last minute backing of the Libertarian Party leadership in the State for her successful gubernatorial race, and today, she is the most popular governor in America. Up until now, I’ve encouraged my fellow Libertarians to follow their conscience and vote for either McCain/Palin or for Barr/Root, if it suits them better. I now believe, two days before Election Day, that this campaign is just too critical to risk on such a strategy, and if Libertarians won’t put the liberty of our country ahead of our party ambitions, who else in this country will? Obama is fundamentally opposed to virtually all libertarian stances on all issues. From taxes, to freedom of speech, to protecting property rights, to putting a halt to the ever-encroaching Nanny-state, and 4 years of an Obama Presidency will have disastrous results for liberty, and supporters of the limited government view. As evidence of this, Obama has taken to lodge a full frontal assault on the libertarian movement within the last couple days. In two separate speeches Obama accused McCain/Palin of supporting tax cuts because they believed in the “Virtue of Selfishness." ABC News confirmed that the phrase was most likely a direct hit at libertarian icon Philosopher Ayn Rand. By attacking Rand, and her Individualist philosophy, in essence, Obama has declared war on libertarians and the libertarian movement in these closing days of Election ‘08. How should libertarians respond? It is now my strong feeling that libertarians nationwide, and most assuredly my fellow Libertarian Party members, should strongly consider casting their votes for Republicans John McCain and Sarah Palin. The libertarian movement would be best served with an Obama defeat. Bob Barr has been polling around 1 to 1.5% in recent polls. A Research 2000/Daily Kos poll released just Friday, had Barr at a full 2%. That is more than enough to cause McCain/Palin to go down to defeat. As we all know, a good 90% of Libertarian votes come directly out of the GOP column. For example, it is widely believed that in 2006, incumbent Republican Senator Conrad Burns almost certainly went down to defeat due to the 4% vote of Libertarian Stan Jones, which turned out to be a wider total than Burns’s loss. I urge my Libertarian friends, especially those in “swing states” to shift these final days to McCain/Palin. Those States that are especially critical include: New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Missouri, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada. McCain/Palin lead Obama/Biden in the latest poll out of Wyoming with 68% to 32%. A Libertarian vote cast for Barr/Root in Wyoming, or even Utah, Idaho, Alabama, Kansas, and my native Texas, would not cause any harm. But Libertarians in the critical swing states must now weigh their vote very seriously and with great caution. Do we want a guarantee of tax increases for virtually all taxpayers, more federalization of education, more pork barrel spending, and continuation of affirmative action quotas, a return of the so-called Fairness Doctrine intended to silence the voice of libertarians and conservatives across the nation? Or, do we want a friendly ear in a confirmed Libertarian Party friend and ally in the office of the Vice-Presidency of the United States. For these reasons, I am voting for McCain/Palin on Tuesday and I urge all of my Libertarian friends to do the same. Our party has made great gains and that is important. Nobody in the libertarian movement has worked harder than I have to assure those gains. But at this moment in history, we must stand with our conservative friends, against a massive affront upon liberty and freedom itself. I call upon all freedom loving libertarians to consider this situation carefully and stand with me! ---- Eric Dondero is a US Navy Veteran and graduate of FSU. He is a former Libertarian Party National Committeeman, Founder of the Republican Liberty Caucus and fmr. Senior Aide to US Congressman Ron Paul R-TX. Just ignore the hateful Palin comments. Obviously, some women get jealous and some men can't control their lustful filth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 385176 United States 11/04/2008 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seneca, this is EXTREMELY deceptive. Dondero is a neocon who satffed for Ron Paul a long time ago and then turned on Ron Paul. He was fired. He went on to smear Ron Paul all over the internet. He HATES Ron Paul and has an obsession with him. He's a Zionist neocon. Quoting: SenecaThat you could have ever claimed to have supported Ron Paul is now feeling like you were insincere. Ron Paul refused to endorse the GOP nominee and is supporting Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party. Of course, you knew that, right, Seneca? It sounds as if you would prefer an Obama victory, Susan? And a ad hominem attack on Dondero does not affect in any way the substance of his arguments. That was not an ad hominem, Seneca. It's fact. No, I don't want Obama OR McCain. I'm a constitutionalist and that's why I supported Ron Paul. Neither Obama nor McCain has addressed ANY of the real issues. |
Seneca (OP) User ID: 542123 United States 11/04/2008 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dondero is either a moron or someone who never truly supported Ron Paul or libertarian ideals...i don't think it's far-fetched at all Quoting: Anonymous Coward 482097i wouldn't trust Palin to run a village...and McCain is a pile of shit who has screwed this country every way he can...if you vote for McCain after having supported Ron Paul, you simply didn't understand Ron Paul's message How is Dondero a moron for wanting to prevent Obama from becoming President? The premise of his argument is sound. It has nothing to do with Ron Paul. If the Libertarians in the swing States do not vote for McCain / Palin, then you are virtually ensuring an Obama victory. |
Seneca (OP) User ID: 542123 United States 11/04/2008 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, I don't want Obama OR McCain. I'm a constitutionalist and that's why I supported Ron Paul. Neither Obama nor McCain has addressed ANY of the real issues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 385176You can't see any differences between McCain / Palin and Obama / Biden? If so, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. IMO, Constitutionalists will be far better off with McCain / Palin than with Obama / Biden. |
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TX PATRIOT User ID: 506675 United States 11/04/2008 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, I don't want Obama OR McCain. I'm a constitutionalist and that's why I supported Ron Paul. Neither Obama nor McCain has addressed ANY of the real issues. Quoting: SenecaYou can't see any differences between McCain / Palin and Obama / Biden? If so, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. IMO, Constitutionalists will be far better off with McCain / Palin than with Obama / Biden. Seneca, Obama and McCain are controlled by the same people behind the curtain. Both "sides" are NWO just delivering slightly different tunes for election theatrics. Sorry, I will no longer play their game. I will not vote for the NWO...not this election or any hereafter. . |
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