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Tryptamind User ID: 366812 Canada 11/22/2008 05:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are there humans who have no sentient consciousness? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556492a non sentient human would show emotion and stuff, but it has no consciousness. nothing is inside experiencing anything. It would be the same as a complex robot that looked just like a human. Do these people exist? and if do, does it explain the behavior of many people? E.G. a person with a consciousness would never act in certain ways or be certain ways or say certain nonsensical things. Please see this picture: [link to consc.net] Absolutely. The majority of human beings are not capable of independent thought, or independent creativity. They are only capable of digesting these products from the humans who do posses self-awareness and soul profiles. Organic Portals, Biological Robots, Clones, Shills, Mind Control Victims, Shapeshifters... etc etc... Flesh and blood walking among us, but they have no ability to question their own existence. The easiest way to understand whether a human being is a spiritual incarnate, or a Organic Portal, is to bring up a topic of discussion that pertains to their own existence or spirituality. These conversations will cause them confusion and they will only be able to mimic the comments of others they have heard.... After a while, you can see the common threads and patterns non-conscious beings display. Even on the internet. See ya. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 390917 France 11/22/2008 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are called Organics and about half the world's population are these beings you describe. The reason why this thread may not receive many replies or serious replies is that non sentient people themselves cant understand this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556492 |
Tryptamind User ID: 366812 Canada 11/22/2008 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason why this thread may not receive many replies or serious replies is that non sentient people themselves cant understand this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556492You are absolutely right. Their ability to not comment on their own existence is a huge roadblock in conversations or outwardly experience. I"m not sure if this hurdle can be evolved by Organic Portals, but to this day, they are not capable of the ability to discussion matters of independent existence. ;) See ya. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 556492 United States 11/22/2008 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are there humans who have no sentient consciousness? Quoting: Tryptaminda non sentient human would show emotion and stuff, but it has no consciousness. nothing is inside experiencing anything. It would be the same as a complex robot that looked just like a human. Do these people exist? and if do, does it explain the behavior of many people? E.G. a person with a consciousness would never act in certain ways or be certain ways or say certain nonsensical things. Please see this picture: [link to consc.net] Absolutely. The majority of human beings are not capable of independant thought, or independant creativity. They are only capable of digesting these products from the humans who do posess self-awareness and soul profiles. Organic Portals, Biological Robots, Clones, Shills, Mind Control Victims, Shapeshifters... etc etc... Flesh and blood walking among us, but they have no ability to question their own existence. The easiest way to understand whether a human being is a spiritual incarnate, or a Organic Portal, is to bring up a topic of discussion that pertains to their own existence or spirituality. These conversations will cause them confusion and they will only be able to mimic the comments of others they have heard.... After a while, you can see the common threads and patterns non-conscious beings display. Even on the internet. But do you understand that im not simply talking about people who cant think for themselves. im not using this figuratively. im literally talking about people who HAVE NO CONSCIOUSNESS. for example, if you see them crying, no suffering is occurring because there is no ego inside the body experiencing anything. for example, if you see them laughing hard, no pleasure is occuring because there is no ego inside of the body experiencing anything. literally the same as a puppet (literally) or a brick wall or a cartoon LITERALLY NO SENTIENT CONSCIOUSNESS. "These conversations will cause them confusion and they will only be able to mimic the comments of others they have heard...." yes, maybe you do understand, i seee |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 534600 Australia 11/22/2008 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are there humans who have no sentient consciousness? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556492a non sentient human would show emotion and stuff, but it has no consciousness. nothing is inside experiencing anything. It would be the same as a complex robot that looked just like a human. Do these people exist? and if do, does it explain the behavior of many people? E.G. a person with a consciousness would never act in certain ways or be certain ways or say certain nonsensical things. Please see this picture: [link to consc.net] Absolutely. The majority of human beings are not capable of independant thought, or independant creativity. They are only capable of digesting these products from the humans who do posess self-awareness and soul profiles. Organic Portals, Biological Robots, Clones, Shills, Mind Control Victims, Shapeshifters... etc etc... Flesh and blood walking among us, but they have no ability to question their own existence. The easiest way to understand whether a human being is a spiritual incarnate, or a Organic Portal, is to bring up a topic of discussion that pertains to their own existence or spirituality. These conversations will cause them confusion and they will only be able to mimic the comments of others they have heard.... After a while, you can see the common threads and patterns non-conscious beings display. Even on the internet. But do you understand that im not simply talking about people who cant think for themselves. im not using this figuratively. im literally talking about people who HAVE NO CONSCIOUSNESS. for example, if you see them crying, no suffering is occurring because there is no ego inside the body experiencing anything. for example, if you see them laughing hard, no pleasure is occuring because there is no ego inside of the body experiencing anything. literally the same as a puppet (literally) or a brick wall or a cartoon LITERALLY NO SENTIENT CONSCIOUSNESS. "These conversations will cause them confusion and they will only be able to mimic the comments of others they have heard...." yes, maybe you do understand, i seee Yes, They are called Organic portals. 50% of the world is one. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Tryptamind User ID: 366812 Canada 11/22/2008 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But do you understand that im not simply talking about people who cant think for themselves. im not using this figuratively. im literally talking about people who HAVE NO CONSCIOUSNESS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556492Yes. I'm just mentioning that the lack of independent thought is a key give away that they are not Spiritual Incarnates. That the lack of independent thought is an easy way to distinguish themselves into the factions of humans who don't have souls. They may not have consciousness, but some do have a "robotic" like consciousness that will percieve the environmental data into chunks of "perception" and they will adapt themselves & emotions accordingly to the situation or task at hand. But do you understand that im not simply talking about people who cant think for themselves. im not using this figuratively. im literally talking about people who HAVE NO CONSCIOUSNESS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556492Yup. There are probably many different kinds and species too. for example, if you see them crying, no suffering is occurring because there is no ego inside the body experiencing anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556492for example, if you see them laughing hard, no pleasure is occuring because there is no ego inside of the body experiencing anything. literally the same as a puppet (literally) or a brick wall or a cartoon Yup. I never thought about the idea of not having an EGO inside the body. But thats totally plausible. Some people I have met have shown incredibly thick skins in their line of work, such as telemarketers, bank collectors, salespeople... it's like they have no ego to deal with, and fits into what you're saying. Some doctors or physicians or people in marketing or the health care industry, nurses especially have this kind of display. If they laugh, cry, you intuitively know it is just a facade. LITERALLY NO SENTIENT CONSCIOUSNESS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556492Yup. I understand what you mean. See ya. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 539102 United States 11/22/2008 05:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are there humans who have no sentient consciousness? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556492a non sentient human would show emotion and stuff, but it has no consciousness. nothing is inside experiencing anything. It would be the same as a complex robot that looked just like a human. Do these people exist? and if do, does it explain the behavior of many people? E.G. a person with a consciousness would never act in certain ways or be certain ways or say certain nonsensical things. Please see this picture: [link to consc.net] yes they are called psychopaths. they do not have remorse or empathy. |
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Tryptamind User ID: 366812 Canada 11/22/2008 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there are many of them. They are AKA Sociopaths Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57108They're not always known as Sociopaths. Sociopaths and Organic Portals are completely different. Some may display similar traits. I don't think the descriptions can be used interchangeably. An Organic Portal or soulless person doesn't have to display any of the behavior of a sociopath. They can be incredibly social, friendly and warm... They're still robots. See ya. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 539102 United States 11/22/2008 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are there humans who have no sentient consciousness? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 539102a non sentient human would show emotion and stuff, but it has no consciousness. nothing is inside experiencing anything. It would be the same as a complex robot that looked just like a human. Do these people exist? and if do, does it explain the behavior of many people? E.G. a person with a consciousness would never act in certain ways or be certain ways or say certain nonsensical things. Please see this picture: [link to consc.net] yes they are called psychopaths. they do not have remorse or empathy. psychopaths emmulate human emotional behaviour because they know it is a correct response. but they do not feel the emotion behind their actions. psychopaths are usually well liked by the unsuspecting community that they live in. psychopaths are so acceptable and normal until you are alone with them and they have focused on you and then you better be ready to fight like hell because they are inhuman. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 534600 Australia 11/22/2008 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there are many of them. They are AKA Sociopaths Quoting: TryptamindThey're not always known as Sociopaths. Sociopaths and Organic Portals are completely different. Some may display similar traits. I don't think the descriptions can be used interchangeably. An Organic Portal or soulless person doesn't have to display any of the behavior of a sociopath. They can be incredibly social, friendly and warm... They're still robots. Actually it takes years to pick them out by simple observation. Also, some may appear to be OP's but are just "lost" souled humans. |
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Tryptamind User ID: 366812 Canada 11/22/2008 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Usually paraphrase the ideas of others, short replies, inability to comprehend the material up for discussion and inability to add their own observations or lengthy insights. Continue on. ;) See ya. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 556492 United States 11/22/2008 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The replies (Or lack thereof) in this thread is an excellent example of how Organic Portals do not display creativity, independent thought, self-awareness. Quoting: TryptamindUsually paraphrase the ideas of others, short replies, inability to comprehend the material up for discussion and inability to add their own observations or lengthy insights. Continue on. ;) Oh you are an interesting person. nice replies. Interesting insight. They are programmed bots, there are so so many. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 556492 United States 11/22/2008 05:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all this is true, then these people with no soul can't be held accountable for their actions.. That's a cop out IMO. Quoting: C.c 533941You are talking about what you WANT to be true based on desire. you cant just make up what you want to be true. you said "IMO" which stands for In My Opinion. key word opinion. Reality isnt opinions. what if there are people with no sentience? what if sentience varies? what if the people do have a sentient consciousness but are barely conscious? what if they are as conscious as i am in a dream in sleep? in dreams i still display emotions and am animated, but im many many times less conscious. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 539102 United States 11/22/2008 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all this is true, then these people with no soul can't be held accountable for their actions.. That's a cop out IMO. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 556492You are talking about what you WANT to be true based on desire. you cant just make up what you want to be true. you said "IMO" which stands for In My Opinion. key word opinion. Reality isnt opinions. what if there are people with no sentience? what if sentience varies? what if the people do have a sentient consciousness but are barely conscious? what if they are as conscious as i am in a dream in sleep? in dreams i still display emotions and am animated, but im many many times less conscious. there are 9 billion unique humans on the face of the earth. what does it matter if there are some like you describe? there are enough atrocities and stupid behaviour to go around anyway. whats a few more? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 556562 United States 11/22/2008 05:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how can you claim to be a sentient being when in an earlier thread you said you can feel no joy because of the severe and debilitating depression that leaves you kicking your legs and putting your head down on your desk between replies?? poor little fella :( |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 556492 United States 11/22/2008 05:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We should all be fully conscious. to bad all the non conscious or low-conscious beings cant just be eliminated. the elimination of a non conscious being would only have the ethical problem of a conscious being being attached to that "person". since the person has no consciousness, its the same as a rock or a brick wall. |