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***Volker Issue Dire Warning***

 
AvianPhlu
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***Volker Issue Dire Warning***
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

This is it and it is NOW

Volcker issues dire warning on slump
Paul Volcker, the former chairman of the US Federal Reserve, has warned that the economic slump has begun to metastasise after a shocking collapse in output over the past two months, threatening to overwhelm the incoming Obama administration as it struggles to restore confidence.

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Last Updated: 10:39PM GMT 17 Nov 2008

"What this crisis reveals is a broken financial system like no other in my lifetime," he told a conference at Lombard Street Research in London.

"Normal monetary policy is not able to get money flowing. The trouble is that, even with all this [government] protection, the market is not moving again. The only other time we have seen the US economy drop as suddenly as this was when the Carter administration imposed credit controls, which was artificial."

His comments come as the blizzard of dire data in the US continues to crush spirits. The Empire State index of manufacturing dropped to minus 24.6 in October, the lowest ever recorded. Paul Ashworth, US economist at Capital Economics, said business spending was now going into "meltdown", compounding the collapse in consumer spending that is already under way.

Mr Volcker, an adviser to President-Elect Barack Obama and a short-list candidate for Treasury Secretary, warned that it is already too late to avoid a severe downturn even if the credit markets stabilise over coming months. "I don't think anybody thinks we're going to get through this recession in a hurry," he said.
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11/26/2008 11:59 AM
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Re: ***Volker Issue Dire Warning***
DIET's thread has a take on Volker.
Some scary stuff man.
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11/26/2008 12:03 PM
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Paul Volker will be in the Obama team of financial advisors. Prepare to walk through history, some really interesting stuff is just ahead for all of us, not all bad, I feel. We have been groomed to be without hope, but for those who think with an open mind and do not fear, there are lots of answers. We may not be totally copmfortable with changes in economics, but I would say this is a good time to try and understand it all as best as one can. Perhaps many of us poor people will have moments of great opportunity if we understand what is coming and act decisively.
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11/26/2008 12:13 PM
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"Chairman of the Federal Reserve

Paul Volcker, a Democrat, was appointed Chairman of the Federal Reserve in August 1979 by President Jimmy Carter and reappointed in 1983 by President Ronald Reagan. Volcker's Fed is widely credited with ending the United States' stagflation crisis of the 1970s by limiting the growth of the money supply, abandoning the previous policy of targeting interest rates. Inflation, which peaked at 13.5% in 1981, was successfully lowered to 3.2% by 1983.

However, the change in policy contributed to the significant recession the U.S. economy experienced in the early 1980s, which included the highest unemployment levels since the Great Depression, and Volcker's Fed also elicited the strongest political attacks and most wide-spread protests in the history of the Federal Reserve (unlike any protests experienced since 1922), due to the effects of the high interest rates on the construction and farming sectors, culminating in indebted farmers driving their tractors onto C Street NW and blockading the Eccles Building."


Sounds like just the guy we need, huh?
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11/26/2008 12:29 PM
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In the early 80's we took our medicine -- things were allowed to get worse so they could get better. Contrast with the current bailout bandaids which only put off the inevitable, and no doubt are making things worse in the long run.
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11/26/2008 12:35 PM
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How are things going to get better? What does America "produce" anymore?

Software code? Others do it at least as well, and much cheaper.

Houses? That was a one-time artificial bubble, could not be maintained.

Financial services? I'd be laughing if I wasn't crying.

Cars? Yeah, this list just gets more and more ridiculous / awful, doesn't it?

What exactly are we going to change into? With all of our raw materials, I suppose we could be a great manufacturing power again ... if we were willing, as a nation, to take a 65% pay cut. At least we would be be less of a nation of cubicle workers again, more in touch with the product of our labor [cue for commie-phobics to go crazy here]

Problem #1: universal health care?
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11/26/2008 12:40 PM
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No worries, they will just keep throwing out fools gold money. A couple of billion here, a couple of trillion there. It is not printed money, just electronic digits. Binary numbers of 1s and 0s. Welcome to the Matrix.
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11/26/2008 12:46 PM
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there are solutions.

Thread: Who I am and What I think we should do

I invite you to contribute to my solutions thread.
all authority is given to me
mizerock

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11/26/2008 12:47 PM
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No worries, they will just keep throwing out fools gold money. A couple of billion here, a couple of trillion there. It is not printed money, just electronic digits. Binary numbers of 1s and 0s. Welcome to the Matrix.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 376196


How long can this shell game go on?

Answer according to most "experts" for the past several decades: indefinitely
Answer according to most "experts" now: WTF is happening, I'm confused, why isn't this brilliant plan to ignore consequences of actions working anymore, etc., etc.
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11/26/2008 12:48 PM
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What does EAT say?
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11/26/2008 12:50 PM
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Get GOLD NOW or you will be seriously fucked when the dollar collapses and hyperinflation kicks in.

The people running the economy are INSANE.
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11/26/2008 12:52 PM
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... strange is that they knew it all along ...

... waiting for the right time to "spring the trap"? ...
TB

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11/26/2008 12:59 PM
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:boabank: they are going to keep bailing with money that isn´t there and then the crash will happen.
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11/26/2008 01:00 PM
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No worries, they will just keep throwing out fools gold money. A couple of billion here, a couple of trillion there. It is not printed money, just electronic digits. Binary numbers of 1s and 0s. Welcome to the Matrix.


How long can this shell game go on?

Answer according to most "experts" for the past several decades: indefinitely
Answer according to most "experts" now: WTF is happening, I'm confused, why isn't this brilliant plan to ignore consequences of actions working anymore, etc., etc.
 Quoting: mizerock


I am beginning to think it is all part of the plan to create the NWO. It has been in the works for awhile. Remember when there was a closed session Congress earlier in the year, I wonder what they were discussing heh? :) They are all in on this and they are playing dumb.
mizerock

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11/26/2008 01:06 PM
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The economists that I work with find the idea of hyperinflation laughable. Nobody is spending money, nobody is lending money, how can inflation happen? They are much more worried about deflation.

What about the massive amount of new money being created? Irrelevant, they claim. Hmmmmm.
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warned that the economic slump has begun to metastasise after a shocking collapse in output over the past two months, threatening to overwhelm the incoming Obama administration as it struggles to restore confidence.
 Quoting: AvianPhlu 464853


A collapse will make people desperate, desperate people are more likely to agree to Obama's commie plans. So it works out nicely for the Obama administration.
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11/26/2008 01:22 PM
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The economists that I work with find the idea of hyperinflation laughable. Nobody is spending money, nobody is lending money, how can inflation happen? They are much more worried about deflation.

What about the massive amount of new money being created? Irrelevant, they claim. Hmmmmm.
 Quoting: mizerock


Why don't you ask your brilliant Ivy League economist buddies why the SEC took away the short selling Uptick rule back in July of 2007?
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Re: ***Volker Issue Dire Warning***
warned that the economic slump has begun to metastasise after a shocking collapse in output over the past two months, threatening to overwhelm the incoming Obama administration as it struggles to restore confidence.

A collapse will make people desperate, desperate people are more likely to agree to Obama's commie plans. So it works out nicely for the Obama administration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 552391



CNN kept trashtalking the economy for the last two years so a democrat would get elected.

Well, enough idiots believed them, and now we have a total loss of confidence, engineered by the libtards.

Nice going, creeps.
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warned that the economic slump has begun to metastasise after a shocking collapse in output over the past two months, threatening to overwhelm the incoming Obama administration as it struggles to restore confidence.

A collapse will make people desperate, desperate people are more likely to agree to Obama's commie plans. So it works out nicely for the Obama administration.



CNN kept trashtalking the economy for the last two years so a democrat would get elected.

Well, enough idiots believed them, and now we have a total loss of confidence, engineered by the libtards.

Nice going, creeps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 558159


Now it's CNNs fault?

The delusion is strong in this one.
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit.
mizerock

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11/26/2008 05:20 PM
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Yeah, everything was going just fine until that Unpatriotic network dared to question the stability of our economy. LOOK WHAT THOSE COMMIES DID TO US!!!1!





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