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e=mc^2 is just Pi in disguise

 
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e=mc^2 is just Pi in disguise
area formula of a circle : a = pr^2
Einstein BS : e = mc^2

Funny how these are so much alike, identical in basic structureÖ

Why? because light is not linear!! Light "streams" like water, or more specifically: like piss.

Yellow and blue make green - that is the facts o' the ring!! For you math persons: factoring.

Look at a spectrum.

Why do Jews circumcise the males? To show them the true nature of light, and how to understand it. Why else would they cut part of their dicks off?

Light is like a "hoop and stick", light moves in all directions, in a forward motion.

As the Leprechauns say: "Itís the pot of gold at the end of me rainbow"

pot of gold = piss

What morons run science in this day. You peoples need to THINK!!

BTW, in case you didnít know, e=mc^2 was NOT needed to split the atom.
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As the Leprechauns say: "Itís the pot of gold at the end of me rainbow"

pot of gold = piss

What morons run science in this day. You peoples need to THINK!!
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It goes without saying the thread starter is a total dimwit.
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Re: e=mc^2 is just Pi in disguise
area formula of a circle : a = pr^2
Einstein BS : e = mc^2

Funny how these are so much alike, identical in basic structureÖ

Why? because light is not linear!! Light "streams" like water, or more specifically: like piss.

Yellow and blue make green - that is the facts o' the ring!! For you math persons: factoring.

Look at a spectrum.

Why do Jews circumcise the males? To show them the true nature of light, and how to understand it. Why else would they cut part of their dicks off?

Light is like a "hoop and stick", light moves in all directions, in a forward motion.

As the Leprechauns say: "Itís the pot of gold at the end of me rainbow"

pot of gold = piss

What morons run science in this day. You peoples need to THINK!!

BTW, in case you didnít know, e=mc^2 was NOT needed to split the atom.
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That's an interesting insight OP.

Thank-you.
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Also, kinetic energy ke = 1/2 x mv^2

All energy is equivalent, so
ke = e => m x 1/2v^2 = m x c^2
=> v = sqrt(2) x c = 1.414 x c

=> the velocity of matter is permanently equal to the velocity of two light beams travelling at right angles to each other.

Matter is trapped light!
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Also, kinetic energy ke = 1/2 x mv^2

All energy is equivalent, so
ke = e => m x 1/2v^2 = m x c^2
=> v = sqrt(2) x c = 1.414 x c

=> the velocity of matter is permanently equal to the velocity of two light beams travelling at right angles to each other.

Matter is trapped light!
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Methane is trapped wind!
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Re: e=mc^2 is just Pi in disguise
Also, kinetic energy ke = 1/2 x mv^2

All energy is equivalent, so
ke = e => m x 1/2v^2 = m x c^2
=> v = sqrt(2) x c = 1.414 x c

=> the velocity of matter is permanently equal to the velocity of two light beams travelling at right angles to each other.

Matter is trapped light!


Methane is trapped wind!
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I have seen a vision that we can create solid things from light.

That we had some kind of machines that were shining things into existance.


Possibly you are one step closer to practical realization.
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Also, kinetic energy ke = 1/2 x mv^2

All energy is equivalent, so
ke = e => m x 1/2v^2 = m x c^2
=> v = sqrt(2) x c = 1.414 x c

=> the velocity of matter is permanently equal to the velocity of two light beams travelling at right angles to each other.

Matter is trapped light!
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okay I like that analogy......(much better than the piss one!).......
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People were created to be loved while things were created to be used. The reason the world is in chaos is that, things are being loved and people are being used

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Also, kinetic energy ke = 1/2 x mv^2

All energy is equivalent, so
ke = e => m x 1/2v^2 = m x c^2
=> v = sqrt(2) x c = 1.414 x c

=> the velocity of matter is permanently equal to the velocity of two light beams travelling at right angles to each other.

Matter is trapped light!


Methane is trapped wind!


I have seen a vision that we can create solid things from light.

That we had some kind of machines that were shining things into existance.


Possibly you are one step closer to practical realization.
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that would be the "god particle" that the lhc is trying to prove to exist. it is the particle that creates matter.
lhc = Large Hadron Collider
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Re: e=mc^2 is just Pi in disguise
Also, kinetic energy ke = 1/2 x mv^2

All energy is equivalent, so
ke = e => m x 1/2v^2 = m x c^2
=> v = sqrt(2) x c = 1.414 x c

=> the velocity of matter is permanently equal to the velocity of two light beams travelling at right angles to each other.

Matter is trapped light!


Methane is trapped wind!


I have seen a vision that we can create solid things from light.

That we had some kind of machines that were shining things into existance.


Possibly you are one step closer to practical realization.

that would be the "god particle" that the lhc is trying to prove to exist. it is the particle that creates matter.
lhc = Large Hadron Collider
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i forgot to add this link to the comment above: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: e=mc^2 is just Pi in disguise
Also, kinetic energy ke = 1/2 x mv^2

All energy is equivalent, so
ke = e => m x 1/2v^2 = m x c^2
=> v = sqrt(2) x c = 1.414 x c


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Of course you know thats a key masonic number 1.414
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Please guys... this pseudo-physics is almost as bad as "Null Physics". I am a post-grad in Mathematical Physics, so I have to call...

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Please guys... this pseudo-physics is almost as bad as "Null Physics". I am a post-grad in Mathematical Physics, so I have to call...

bsflag
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If you're such an expert, tell us what an electron is. How does it work? What is it made of?

You don't know do you...
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Please guys... this pseudo-physics is almost as bad as "Null Physics". I am a post-grad in Mathematical Physics, so I have to call...

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If you're such an expert, tell us what an electron is. How does it work? What is it made of?

You don't know do you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 561931


Actually, that is my current research topic. Naturally I can't go into the details, as the papers are not yet ready for publishing. Ask about any other phenomenon and I will provide you with a sound opinion as long as it does not infringe upon the agreements I work under.
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What I will say is that I do not believe in a probabilistic universe, and hence do not simply attribute the behaviour of matter to probability.
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Light "streams" like water, or more specifically: like piss.
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Yep, this is where ya lost me.
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Re: e=mc^2 is just Pi in disguise
Also, kinetic energy ke = 1/2 x mv^2

All energy is equivalent, so
ke = e => m x 1/2v^2 = m x c^2
=> v = sqrt(2) x c = 1.414 x c

=> the velocity of matter is permanently equal to the velocity of two light beams travelling at right angles to each other.

Matter is trapped light!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 561563


This is correct.

For example, if you put an electron and a positron in contact, they annihilate each other and the result is two pure photons - light!

Scientists have recently forced photons together to create exactly one electron and one positron as a result. i.e. the process IS reversible.

Therefore, it is logical to conclude that electrons, positrons and photons are all comprised of two OBJECTS (what they are I don't know.) Assume there are sub-electron sized particles called A and B that combine to form electrons, positrons and photons.

For example, an electron is A-A, a positron is B-B and a photon is A-B.

=> A-A + B-B can be converted into A-B & A-B and vice-verca.

If A and B particles always travel at the speed of light, then a matched pair as in an electron will circulate around each other but always will be travelling at right angles. Using pythagorus theorum, speed = sqrt(c^2 + c^2) = 1.414 c^2.

The maths looks good to me. Why wouldn't all energy be kinetic energy - even at the subatomic level?
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angles. Using pythagorus theorum, speed = sqrt(c^2 + c^2) = 1.414 c^2.
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COMBINED speed of both particles that should be...
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Also, kinetic energy ke = 1/2 x mv^2

All energy is equivalent, so
ke = e => m x 1/2v^2 = m x c^2
=> v = sqrt(2) x c = 1.414 x c

=> the velocity of matter is permanently equal to the velocity of two light beams travelling at right angles to each other.

Matter is trapped light!


This is correct.

For example, if you put an electron and a positron in contact, they annihilate each other and the result is two pure photons - light!

Scientists have recently forced photons together to create exactly one electron and one positron as a result. i.e. the process IS reversible.

Therefore, it is logical to conclude that electrons, positrons and photons are all comprised of two OBJECTS (what they are I don't know.) Assume there are sub-electron sized particles called A and B that combine to form electrons, positrons and photons.

For example, an electron is A-A, a positron is B-B and a photon is A-B.

=> A-A + B-B can be converted into A-B & A-B and vice-verca.

If A and B particles always travel at the speed of light, then a matched pair as in an electron will circulate around each other but always will be travelling at right angles. Using pythagorus theorum, speed = sqrt(c^2 + c^2) = 1.414 c^2.

The maths looks good to me. Why wouldn't all energy be kinetic energy - even at the subatomic level?
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Your statement is misleading. Consider what kinetic energy is: Surely you understand that classically it is defined by mass and speed?

This is not so quantum mechanically. Mass is a sub-domain of GR (General Relativity) and thus you cannot impregnate QM with a concept wherein we have no unified field, which is the underlying problem.

Mass, energy, curved space -> GR!

Yes, there are certain particle pair interactions. This does us no good until we have defined the particle structure accurately.

This is why we must rely on mathematics for a suitable analysis - the logic of math does not lie.
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Re: e=mc^2 is just Pi in disguise
area formula of a circle : a = pr^2
Einstein BS : e = mc^2

Funny how these are so much alike, identical in basic structureÖ

Why? because light is not linear!! Light "streams" like water, or more specifically: like piss.

Yellow and blue make green - that is the facts o' the ring!! For you math persons: factoring.

Look at a spectrum.

Why do Jews circumcise the males? To show them the true nature of light, and how to understand it. Why else would they cut part of their dicks off?

Light is like a "hoop and stick", light moves in all directions, in a forward motion.

As the Leprechauns say: "Itís the pot of gold at the end of me rainbow"

pot of gold = piss

What morons run science in this day. You peoples need to THINK!!

BTW, in case you didnít know, e=mc^2 was NOT needed to split the atom.
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OK. I've read some weird stuff on this site, but this is one of the most bizarre.
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Light "streams" like water, or more specifically: like piss.

Yep, this is where ya lost me.
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This is why ancint Jews cirumcised themselves. To remind them of the true nature of light.
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Actually, that is my current research topic. Naturally I can't go into the details, as the papers are not yet ready for publishing. Ask about any other phenomenon and I will provide you with a sound opinion as long as it does not infringe upon the agreements I work under.
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Since when did truth "infringe upon agreements"

You "knowledge for sale" simpletons can stick it!!
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Re: e=mc^2 is just Pi in disguise
Also, kinetic energy ke = 1/2 x mv^2

Your statement is misleading. Consider what kinetic energy is: Surely you understand that classically it is defined by mass and speed?

This is not so quantum mechanically. Mass is a sub-domain of GR (General Relativity) and thus you cannot impregnate QM with a concept wherein we have no unified field, which is the underlying problem.

Mass, energy, curved space -> GR!

Yes, there are certain particle pair interactions. This does us no good until we have defined the particle structure accurately.

This is why we must rely on mathematics for a suitable analysis - the logic of math does not lie.
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Mass is interchangable with energy right?
Electrons have mass, so must also have classical kinetic energy when they move. But if that electron is buzzing around an atom or a circuit, then relative to that atom or circuit, there is no net kinetic energy. And yet within it there is. The mass is proportional to the amount of kinetic energy within the macro object. All energy is actually kinetic energy. Mass is an illusion caused by inertia - and an invalid, though predictably very successful mathematical model such as GR.
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Two different automobiles both have four wheels and one engine!

Another ASTOUNDING FACT OF NATURE!!!!!!!!broccoli
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Please guys... this pseudo-physics is almost as bad as "Null Physics". I am a post-grad in Mathematical Physics, so I have to call...

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If you're such an expert, tell us what an electron is. How does it work? What is it made of?

You don't know do you...
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homeruhh

Electrons are clouds of potentiality and are not solid 3D matter. A "choice point" as defined by Hugh Everett, III, a phycist from Princeton is the moment of time where the course of an event may be changed.

A choice point occurs when conditions appear that create a path between the present course of events and a new course leading to new outcomes. The choice point is like a bridge making it possible to begin one path and change course to experience the outcome of a new path.

Thought, feeling, and emotion are actions which become the attractor for a choice point, allowing the quantum leap from a course of events already underway, to a new course with a different outcome.

The spaces (or silence) between the pulses of light (or creation) are the places where we have the opportunity to "jump" from one possibility to the next. This space is where the miracles occur.
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Actually, that is my current research topic. Naturally I can't go into the details, as the papers are not yet ready for publishing. Ask about any other phenomenon and I will provide you with a sound opinion as long as it does not infringe upon the agreements I work under.



Since when did truth "infringe upon agreements"

You "knowledge for sale" simpletons can stick it!!
 Quoting: Shoemaker II


Truth infringes upon agreements if there is a great deal at stake when it is released. I am not saying that this is the case, but such a case would suffice in maintaining secrecy.

As for the micro and macro, and what you refer to as inertia - ideally we want to analyze the system as a whole, not separate states of motion.

All I was trying to convey is that mass isn't really mass, and energy really isn't energy as per the classical definition.

It becomes much more interesting :)





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