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Evolution is REAL

 
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Evolution is REAL
Some strains of bacteria have evolved to become resistant to antibiotics.

Thats an evolutionary fact and it happened just in the past 60 years and is still happening as we speak.

Evolution is real.
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the people you're targeting aren't persuaded by evidence. they aren't interested in the truth.
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Is it still bacteria?
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When you get that fruit fly to 'evolve' let me know
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OP dont be so loud christians my claim its just lies.
Did you ever have a job that you hated and worked real hard at? A long, hard day of work. Finally you get to go home, get in bed, close your eyes and immediately you wake up and realize... that the whole day at work had been a dream. It's bad enough that you sell your waking life for minimum wage, but now they get your dreams for free.



The worst mistake that you can make is to think you're alive when really you're asleep in life's waiting room.
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Bacteria cant evolve into rats or fish - thats why evolution is such a f-ing lie. You cant have bacteria evolving all the way into humans. what idiot believes that?
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OP dont be so loud christians my claim its just lies.
 Quoting: Ruskie

It is a lie
Where the proof?
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Bacteria cant evolve into rats or fish - thats why evolution is such a f-ing lie. You cant have bacteria evolving all the way into humans. what idiot believes that?
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Let me guess, you're the religious type.
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Bacteria cant evolve into rats or fish - thats why evolution is such a f-ing lie. You cant have bacteria evolving all the way into humans. what idiot believes that?
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Oh boy, here we go!

(Rolls eyes then stares blankly at wall, pondering the stupidity of humanity)
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Evolution remains an unproven theory.
Many open minds should be closed for repairs

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if these skeptics were really interested in evolution they'd do their homework

since they don't we know their objective isn't truth
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Evolution remains an unproven theory.
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as i stated before where knowledge ends religion begins. do some google search and do some reading about this "unproven theory" lol.
Did you ever have a job that you hated and worked real hard at? A long, hard day of work. Finally you get to go home, get in bed, close your eyes and immediately you wake up and realize... that the whole day at work had been a dream. It's bad enough that you sell your waking life for minimum wage, but now they get your dreams for free.



The worst mistake that you can make is to think you're alive when really you're asleep in life's waiting room.
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The greatest obstacle to discovery is the illusion of knowledge.
Many open minds should be closed for repairs

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The greatest obstacle to discovery is the illusion of knowledge.
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Did you get that from the bible?
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Nope.
Many open minds should be closed for repairs

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The greatest obstacle to discovery is the illusion of knowledge.
 Quoting: archaicyeoman


When one person suffers from delusion, it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion.
Did you ever have a job that you hated and worked real hard at? A long, hard day of work. Finally you get to go home, get in bed, close your eyes and immediately you wake up and realize... that the whole day at work had been a dream. It's bad enough that you sell your waking life for minimum wage, but now they get your dreams for free.



The worst mistake that you can make is to think you're alive when really you're asleep in life's waiting room.
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Evolution remains an unproven theory.
 Quoting: archaicyeoman

1. Evolution is a fact.
2. The mechanisms of evolution (how it works) are still just theories.

For comparison:

1. Gravity is a fact.
2. The mechanisms of gravity (how it works) are still just theories.
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Evolution remains an unproven theory.

1. Evolution is a fact.
2. The mechanisms of evolution (how it works) are still just theories.

For comparison:

1. Gravity is a fact.
2. The mechanisms of gravity (how it works) are still just theories.
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Silly OP, Christians don't believe in gravity.
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The closet mankind has come thus far in attempts to understand the truth of evolution is Punctuated Equilibrium.

Evolution and Creation are not mutually exclusive, they go hand in hand. "God is the Divine Artist, evolution is the Divine Art, we are His clay, Death is His kiln."


Sacred Path of Migration/Evolution
[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

"Mankind has long sought explanations about himself and his world. One of his concerns has been the search for the force, which governs, the Mongko, the laws of the Universe, another has been an explanation for the development of life on Earth. Existing concepts of evolution have formed largely around Charles Darwin's "The Origin of Species." Darwin envisaged evolution as many small transitional changes in the genetic structure of organisms with offspring varying slightly from their parents, and as one small change proved advantageous it was implemented and added to by later changes which introduced further improvements.

However, all efforts to trace the origin of man are dependent upon a fossil record that is unable to provide an unbroken pattern of development between man and his progenitors, the fossil record provides evidence that evolutionary changes take place in a series of sudden and repeated adaptations which render organisms suitable for dramatically changed environs."


Punctuated Equilibrium
[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

"Punctuated equilibrium means that evolution takes place in a series of sudden and repeated changes. According to punctuated equilibria our Solar System is the scene of frequent changes wherein long periods of equilibrium are interrupted by brief periods of excitation. This throws a very different light on evolution and scientists are now considering the possibility that planets undergo transitions from one orbit to another. This implies that the Earth has served terms in each of the orbits, which are presently occupied by Pluto, Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, Jupiter and Mars."


Our Home Planet
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"The Sand Painting of the Sunflower within Hopi knowledge describes the process of our beginning with our Earth in our Solar System. In the Bible, this process is the six-day creation in Genesis and symbolic of the six eras during which Earth occupied the six outer orbits. The seventh day of rest refers to the period of equilibrium during Earth's occupation of the present orbit.

The description of creation in the Bible is intended to convey the different stages from a formless planet to one, which supports "every herb bearing seed, every tree, every beast of Earth, every fowl of the air, everything which creepeth upon Earth, and man." We are presently in the period of equilibrium, God’s Day of Rest. God will again commence "work" during excitation and will be our last step in this journey to higher life form with our Earth."
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what is real? how do you define real?
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OP dont be so loud christians my claim its just lies.

It is a lie
Where the proof?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 560513


It is said in scripture, with God ALL things are possible, yet some fail to see that God is the Creator and Controller of Evolution regardless if mankind does not understand God's Knowledge of doing so.

It was asked where is the proof? It could be asked in return where is the faith, the faith that with God all things are possible?

"Religion exerts a powerful influence over the actions of people. Men write about it, argue about it, and endure solitude, fasting and celibacy for the sake of it. They even kill for religion and die for it. But very few really try to understand it."
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OP dont be so loud christians my claim its just lies.

It is a lie
Where the proof?


It is said in scripture, with God ALL things are possible, yet some fail to see that God is the Creator and Controller of Evolution regardless if mankind does not understand God's Knowledge of doing so.

It was asked where is the proof? It could be asked in return where is the faith, the faith that with God all things are possible?

"Religion exerts a powerful influence over the actions of people. Men write about it, argue about it, and endure solitude, fasting and celibacy for the sake of it. They even kill for religion and die for it. But very few really try to understand it."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472562


Religion is intellectual bondage.
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My studies in Speculative philosophy, metaphysics, and science are all summed up in the image of a mouse called man running in and out of every hole in the Cosmos hunting for the Absolute Cheese.
-Benjamin DeCasseres
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OP, try researching consciousness evolution.

Physical evolution is something that we are only beginning to understand.

There is evidence of physical evolution making HUGE leaps in very short amounts of time.

Consciousness evolution, though, is without a doubt a phenomenal pattern.




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OP dont be so loud christians my claim its just lies.

It is a lie
Where the proof?


It is said in scripture, with God ALL things are possible, yet some fail to see that God is the Creator and Controller of Evolution regardless if mankind does not understand God's Knowledge of doing so.

It was asked where is the proof? It could be asked in return where is the faith, the faith that with God all things are possible?

"Religion exerts a powerful influence over the actions of people. Men write about it, argue about it, and endure solitude, fasting and celibacy for the sake of it. They even kill for religion and die for it. But very few really try to understand it."


Religion is intellectual bondage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515488

[link to www.thebigho111.com]
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Religion is intellectual bondage.
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You are correct.

Religion always places boundaries and rules upon its followers. It always presents itself as the "truth" and claims everything else is lies or deception by evil doers.
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OP dont be so loud christians my claim its just lies.

It is a lie
Where the proof?


It is said in scripture, with God ALL things are possible, yet some fail to see that God is the Creator and Controller of Evolution regardless if mankind does not understand God's Knowledge of doing so.

It was asked where is the proof? It could be asked in return where is the faith, the faith that with God all things are possible?

"Religion exerts a powerful influence over the actions of people. Men write about it, argue about it, and endure solitude, fasting and celibacy for the sake of it. They even kill for religion and die for it. But very few really try to understand it."


Religion is intellectual bondage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515488


there is no sense in even believing in fiction that has NO basis to it. There isnt a single proof of god nor jesus. tho its religion has existed for thousand years. Everything its ever dont its killing in the name of it and hindered knowledge to the masses..
Did you ever have a job that you hated and worked real hard at? A long, hard day of work. Finally you get to go home, get in bed, close your eyes and immediately you wake up and realize... that the whole day at work had been a dream. It's bad enough that you sell your waking life for minimum wage, but now they get your dreams for free.



The worst mistake that you can make is to think you're alive when really you're asleep in life's waiting room.
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Religion is intellectual bondage.

You are correct.

Religion always places boundaries and rules upon its followers. It always presents itself as the "truth" and claims everything else is lies or deception by evil doers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 89998


And it can do all that while claiming infallibility.
How very convenient.
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Some strains of bacteria have evolved to become resistant to antibiotics.

Thats an evolutionary fact and it happened just in the past 60 years and is still happening as we speak.

Evolution is real.
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Variety and variation within species is true.

That all life sprang into existence by accident from a rock is just plain stupid, no matter how desperately academics try to justify their rejection of God.
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Greretings!

Darwin embraces Islam 125 years after his death and visits Makka

Outspoken atheists such as Richard Dawkins created a new form of dogmatic religion, headed by a man who is unable to ascertain whether there is life on Mars or there isn’t, but is persistently trying to mislead the masses to believe that there is no creator of the entire universe. This could simply be likened to somebody lost on narrow country roads outside Aberdeen , unable to find his way to any living town, yet insisting that London does not exist or there is no government in London .
Charles Darwin


The prominent negative sentiment of Richard Dawkins against the so-called ‘religion’ is actually generated from founded criticism of the translations of the Bible and what has been taught in the Judaeo–Christian world in the last few centuries, after man became able to prove that ‘God’ as presented in the translated Bibles, is wrong in many cases since the time of Galileo onwards.

What Dawkins is unable to grasp is that the world is not only America and Europe ; religion is not only Christianity and Judaism; divine revelation was not only the Bible and God is not necessarily what was ill-described in the translations of the Bible. Any realistic scientist or philosopher must have wider vision to the spectrum of the field he or she claims to have mastered, before becoming a dangerous ‘priest’, disseminating their new dogmatic religion which could only add to the disillusion of the people of the West who have already suffered from too many dogmatic interpretations of the translated teaching of the prophets included in the Bibles.

In his new delusional short-sighted religion, Richard Dawkins has adopted the work of Charles Darwin as the prophetic message on which the new dogma – ‘There is no God’ – is based. Despite the apparent respect and appreciation of his work, no one could harm Darwin as much as those who unlawfully associate his name with their atheism. The idea of Charles Darwin of the ‘Evolution and the law of natural selection’ was an ‘evolution’ of ancient Islamic theories, not innovation! In his Creation and/ Or Evolution, T O Shanavas provided enough evidence that: attributing the concept of evolution to Darwin alone is a ‘gigantic rip off’! Over 800 years ago, Ibn Arabi proposed the idea that the monkey was the last animal and first human in the evolution ladder. It was Darwin ’s grandfather who studied these ancient Islamic theories that inspired Chares to find the proof for that. Charles Darwin was so honest that he described only what he could proof, leaving the missing link very prominent in his incomplete evolutionary work. That missing link, to the dismay of Dawkins who misused the work of Darwin , is now confidently and astonishingly proved by the very God that Dawkins struggled to deny. The process of evolution is described in a series of coded messages in the Qur’an, the divine book that somebody like Dawkins would be too reluctant to challenge, as he can only challenge the man-made, outdated misconceptions attributed to God in the translated Bibles.

Darwin was a righteous man in his own right. Like Dawkins, he did not accept the dogmatic interpretations taught in the Judaeo–Christian culture about the creation. He was inspired by Muslim philosophers first, and then followed his pure instinct in search of the truth. He accepted that the true creator is superior to what has been attributed to Him in the Bible. Like Dawkins, Darwin stopped being Christian but unlike Dawkins he did not deny God, did not preach atheism, did not exceed the limits of his expertise and honourably declared the missing link, instead of attempting to mislead people by providing non-scientific dogmas, to fill in the space of his missing knowledge.

When asked about his religious views, Darwin wrote that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God, and that generally ‘an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind’.

By this approach, Darwin acted like a divinely inspired messenger. The question of who inspired Darwin to reach his findings and keep to the limits of his expertise, highlighting the prominent missing link, must be the one who revealed the missing link in the Qur’an and Torah before, and provided all the needed detailed evidence on how the Intelligent Design took place. Darwin was a believer in God but not in the way the current Bible presented Him. Only the creator of the evolution could have revealed the missing link that completed this ongoing, originally Islamic theory and confirmed all its details.

Darwin did not sit in an office, fantasising about illusive evolution out of nothing, but he was a scientist who spent many years of his life examining similarities and differences between various species so that he may understand the wisdom of the hidden intelligence that designed the living beings. This journey is fulfilment for the instruction in the Qur'an:

[Say: `Travel in the earth, and see how He originated the creation. Then Allah will initiate the second creation in the same manner. Certainly, Allah has power over all things] Qur’an 29:20

Following his findings, Darwin did not preach atheism; instead he turned his face towards the one who created the universe in pure instinct, without naming Him, but with brave refusal to give Him false names or attributes. He left for mankind the treasure of knowledge, to reflect on, with utmost honesty, admitting the defeat in finding the missing link. His incredible effort in searching for the truth, instinctive faith and remarkable honesty were divinely rewarded by making him a prominent factor which guided Muslims to decode evolution’s codes in the Qur'an, to the dismay of ignorant Harun Yahya as well as Dawkins and his followers, who are not ashamed to attribute to Darwin what he did not claim, struggling to use his work in proving the negative – ‘There is no God’! Thus, like Ibn Arabi before him, who was the first to suggest that man evolved from the ape by divine intervention, Darwin should be placed amongst the undiscovered great Muslim scholars of all time.

The Qur’an, full of coded messages, was revealed 14 centuries ago. Six hundred years later, Ibn Arabi was the first philosopher to compose the theory of evolution based on Qur’anic interpretation rather than scientific evidence. It was only 800 years later that Darwin was exposed to this Islamic philosophy and was inspired to prove most of it scientifically. As part of the divinely-led intelligent design and evolution, the one who revealed the Qur’an, inspired Darwin at the correct time and then provided the answer for his missing link when human intellect ‘evolved’ enough to understand it. This is enough to suggest that Darwin, who was not known to discuss theological matters since he renounced Christianity, was a Muslim; just unaware that the word Islam, in its basic meaning, refers to a state of mind, an instinctive humble submission to the supreme creator, not a club that requires membership!

Dawkins may happily continue to promote atheism based on the errors of the translated Bibles, but he would never even be able to challenge the original Qur’an. He can continue to prove that ‘false gods’ did not exist except in human fantasy, which is an indisputable fact, but his thoughts will not hold water when he is asked to explain how the Qur’an could describe the entire evolution 13 centuries before the time of Darwin – and how it became suddenly apparent in the Qur’an only now.

In his delusional war against the delusional misconception of God in the translated Bibles, Dawkins is likened to the delusional heroism of Bush fighting Saddam on delusional allegations of possessing WMD at the time when the latter possessed no arms at all, not even swords! The reluctance of Dawkins to challenge the concept, logic and evidence of divinity in the original Qur’an could be likened to the reluctance of Bush to take any serious actions against North Korea because he is very aware they possess WMD and they will use them if they are provoked!


Atheists claim that: Religion is man’s quest for assurance that he won’t be dead when he would be! In a way that is true but the serious question that the messenger of short-sighted atheism – the new dogmatic religion – has to answer is: How could Mohammed describe the evolution and provide the missing link that Darwin and his school failed to provide until now? Be warned Dawkins, because the one who revealed the ‘missing link’ and inspired us to decode the Shajara Code, is the same as the one who warned mankind that they wouldn’t be dead when they assume they would be!

This book is intended to reveal in detail how the entire evolution was described in the scriptures. It is also intended to clear the name of the righteous man, Charles Darwin, from the inappropriate misuse of his scientific work by those who claim to respect him. It is also intended to clear his name from the unfounded accusations of blasphemy he suffered from those who claim they speak on behalf of God.