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Evolution is REAL

 
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488 until you prove your claims of billions of years it will do no good to present evidence to you when you cant even understand it. You're just mindlessly repeating baseless claims.


Based on carbon dating.
Now prove why that is wrong.
Show you're evidence.
Use the scientific method to prove your findings.
Until then, just keep spouting your mindlessly repeating baseless claims.


Carbon dating is only good for 40,000 years and has many flaws.


When creatures die they decay and are scavenged. The only way to get a fossil without decay is with flood sediment/volcanic ect, and in the case of delicate structure creatures (jellyfish) rapid flood sediment deposition that have captured every minute detail. These fossils are found globally at geolayers claimed to all be the same age (cambrian). The only way to arrive at our fossil record is a global flood.


Where is your evidence for this?
You make a statement and follow it up with rhetoric.
Where is the scientific process to arrive at this conclusion?
Again where is your evidence?
Because you say it, it is true?
What of the mosquito trapped in amber?
Where does he fit into your sweeping deceleration of the age of a fossil, or the inability of scientists to accurately determine its age?

That Mosquito is still a Mosquito whether it is in amber or not.
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Lol, not disputing that.
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Well then, ok, your beliefs in God are not based on any Biblical understanding then.
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I KNOW.
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11/29/2008 07:37 PM
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Re: Evolution is REAL
The science seems deeply flawed, but interesting none the less.

"Science" deeply flawed?! You must be kidding!
Or could it be that "scientists" are also merely men with their own biases, prejudices, preconceptions, assumptions and agendas?

Consider the caterpillar and just try to reconcile it with evolution.

I know you can't and won't do that now, because you are too hung up on opposing me,
but eventually someday...
challenge yourself, challenge your teachers, and challenge your faith.


You could not dispute one single fact presented to you.
At least the other AC seems to know what he is talking about.
You just run around and around in circles showing no proof, no evidence and clearly no knowledge of the subject at hand.
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Of course I can, Junior. I can refute and oppose every assumed fact you relied on.

You just refused to cooperate with the simplest of requests.

But feel free to insult me some more if it makes you feel better about yourself.

I forgive you.
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11/29/2008 07:40 PM
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The science seems deeply flawed, but interesting none the less.

"Science" deeply flawed?! You must be kidding!
Or could it be that "scientists" are also merely men with their own biases, prejudices, preconceptions, assumptions and agendas?

Consider the caterpillar and just try to reconcile it with evolution.

I know you can't and won't do that now, because you are too hung up on opposing me,
but eventually someday...
challenge yourself, challenge your teachers, and challenge your faith.


You could not dispute one single fact presented to you.
At least the other AC seems to know what he is talking about.
You just run around and around in circles showing no proof, no evidence and clearly no knowledge of the subject at hand.

Of course I can, Junior. I can refute and oppose every assumed fact you relied on.

You just refused to cooperate with the simplest of requests.

But feel free to insult me some more if it makes you feel better about yourself.

I forgive you.
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You asked for facts, i gave you facts and you ignored them, not disputing them, not showing evidence to the contrary.
It is quite OBVIOUS, that you have no clue about evolution to begin with.
What more needs to be said?
You have proven yourself to be completely CLUELESS on the subject.
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11/29/2008 07:43 PM
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Re: Evolution is REAL
Can you not engage in simple and honest dialogue and debate?
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Can you not engage in simple and honest dialogue and debate?
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You asked the question. Not me.
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11/29/2008 07:46 PM
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You asked for facts, i gave you facts and you ignored them, not disputing them, not showing evidence to the contrary.

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I asked for TWO FACTS you know of evolution.

You provided, what, five or six examples?

I said, as I said, pick two for our detailed consideration.

You repeatedly refused.

Am I in any way mistaken about this?
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11/29/2008 07:47 PM
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Re: Evolution is REAL
Leg bones in whales
Tail bones (coccyx) in humans
Dew claws in canines


nuff said.

Why do you not have your coccyx removed if you think it is useless !

nuff said.
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Because having an unnecessary operation carried out close to the spinal column would be stupid?
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11/29/2008 07:50 PM
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You asked for facts, i gave you facts and you ignored them, not disputing them, not showing evidence to the contrary.


I asked for TWO FACTS you know of evolution.

You provided, what, five or six examples?

I said, as I said, pick two for our detailed consideration.

You repeatedly refused.

Am I in any way mistaken about this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543159


Anyone but yourself can see how stupid that statement was.
You asked for facts of evolution, and you didn't answer my rebuttal because i gave you TOO many facts?
How stupid are you?
Pick two facts, hell pick one fact and dispute it.
You can't, not because the facts are even difficult to dispute, but simply because YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND NO IDEA WHAT THE EVOLUTIONARY THEORY EVEN IS.
You have not added one bit of evidence to this entire thread.
You are wasting my time, or should i say, you WERE wasting my time.
Come back when you can actually debate ANYTHING.
I won't hold my breath.
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Re: Evolution is REAL
Well then, ok, your beliefs in God are not based on any Biblical understanding then.
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Even a person in this thread that believes in God and evolution, me, oh my, my beliefs in God must not be based on any Biblical understanding.

Yes, I see, anyone that has an understanding of scripture in any way shape or form other than what you understand must be incorrect.

LOL, humble thyself or at least that ego. :)
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Re: Evolution is REAL
oh and regarding the evolution of butterfly metamorphosis:

'Growth patterns intermediate to full metamorphosis already exist, ranging from growth with no metamorphosis (such as with silverfish) to partial metamorphosis (as with true bugs and mayflies) complete metamorphosis with relatively little change in form (as with rove beetles), and the metamorphosis seen in butterflies. It is surely possible that similar intermediate stages could have developed over time to produce butterfly metamorphosis from an ancestor without metamorphosis. In fact, an explanation exists for the evolution of metamorphosis based largely on changes in the endocrinology of development'
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11/29/2008 07:51 PM
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Re: Evolution is REAL
Leg bones in whales
Tail bones (coccyx) in humans
Dew claws in canines


nuff said.

Why do you not have your coccyx removed if you think it is useless !

nuff said.


Because having an unnecessary operation carried out close to the spinal column would be stupid?
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Plus you wouldn't be able to walk.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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11/29/2008 07:53 PM
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Re: Evolution is REAL
Well then, ok, your beliefs in God are not based on any Biblical understanding then.



Even a person in this thread that believes in God and evolution, me, oh my, my beliefs in God must not be based on any Biblical understanding.

Yes, I see, anyone that has an understanding of scripture in any way shape or form other than what you understand must be incorrect.

LOL, humble thyself or at least that ego. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472562

One must humble themselves and their ego to understand The Book. There is no other way. It is self-denial, not self-assertion.

What is your understanding based on?
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Re: Evolution is REAL
Leg bones in whales
Tail bones (coccyx) in humans
Dew claws in canines


nuff said.

Why do you not have your coccyx removed if you think it is useless !

nuff said.


Because having an unnecessary operation carried out close to the spinal column would be stupid?


Plus you wouldn't be able to walk.
 Quoting: The Guy


Well i mean, plus the second i get rid of my tail bone, BANG i grow a tail the next day.
Happens every time i through something i thought i would never need again out!

5a
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11/29/2008 07:56 PM
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Re: Evolution is REAL
Just bumping this thread above the creationist one I bumped up to the top. Ugh, creationists, there's really nothing you can say to make them see the truth, they're blind.
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11/29/2008 07:58 PM
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You asked for facts, i gave you facts and you ignored them, not disputing them, not showing evidence to the contrary.


I asked for TWO FACTS you know of evolution.

You provided, what, five or six examples?

I said, as I said, pick two for our detailed consideration.

You repeatedly refused.

Am I in any way mistaken about this?


Anyone but yourself can see how stupid that statement was.
You asked for facts of evolution, and you didn't answer my rebuttal because i gave you TOO many facts?
How stupid are you?
Pick two facts, hell pick one fact and dispute it.
You can't, not because the facts are even difficult to dispute, but simply because YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND NO IDEA WHAT THE EVOLUTIONARY THEORY EVEN IS.
You have not added one bit of evidence to this entire thread.
You are wasting my time, or should i say, you WERE wasting my time.
Come back when you can actually debate ANYTHING.
I won't hold my breath.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 515488

Since that last post of mine was again, apparently asking much too much of you,
I re-read your posts in the first page of this thread. Not one of them was about evolution, but all were hostile toward anyone you even thought might be "religious,"

Obviously, I read your posts to me. Everyone is nasty.

Why are you such an angry and venomous person?
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11/29/2008 07:59 PM
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You asked for facts, i gave you facts and you ignored them, not disputing them, not showing evidence to the contrary.


I asked for TWO FACTS you know of evolution.

You provided, what, five or six examples?

I said, as I said, pick two for our detailed consideration.

You repeatedly refused.

Am I in any way mistaken about this?


Anyone but yourself can see how stupid that statement was.
You asked for facts of evolution, and you didn't answer my rebuttal because i gave you TOO many facts?
How stupid are you?
Pick two facts, hell pick one fact and dispute it.
You can't, not because the facts are even difficult to dispute, but simply because YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND NO IDEA WHAT THE EVOLUTIONARY THEORY EVEN IS.
You have not added one bit of evidence to this entire thread.
You are wasting my time, or should i say, you WERE wasting my time.
Come back when you can actually debate ANYTHING.
I won't hold my breath.

Since that last post of mine was again, apparently asking much too much of you,
I re-read your posts in the first page of this thread. Not one of them was about evolution, but all were hostile toward anyone you even thought might be "religious,"

Obviously, I read your posts to me. Everyone is nasty.

Why are you such an angry and venomous person?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543159


Why do you change the subject ever time you are called out on your Bullshit?
Probably because you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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Just bumping this thread above the creationist one I bumped up to the top. Ugh, creationists, there's really nothing you can say to make them see the truth, they're blind.
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Of course they are...
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Why do you change the subject ever time you are called out on your Bullshit?
Probably because you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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Why won't you actually deal with or directly address anything I say?
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11/29/2008 08:03 PM
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Why do you change the subject ever time you are called out on your Bullshit?
Probably because you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Why won't you actually deal with or directly address anything I say?
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Because you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
DISPUTE THE FACTS OF EVOLUTION THAT I GAVE.
You cannot, because you do not know what you are talking about!
Until you can dispute one fact, from a question you asked, why would i continue to respond to you're questions?
It is almost comedy now, so painfully obvious that you have no understanding of the subject at hand, yet CONTINUE to have this "false" debate with me, while ignoring the ONE question relevant to the thread.
Now why don't you go ask me my age again, or why i am so mean, or why i am so angry.
Anything to divert the fact that you don't know ANYTHING about this subject.
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11/29/2008 08:06 PM
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Have you always been such a unhappy, angry and nasty person
or was there a specific turning point in your life?
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11/29/2008 08:07 PM
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Have you always been such a unhappy, angry and nasty person
or was there a specific turning point in your life?
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Thread is about evolution, stop attempting to derail it.
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Yes, the thread is about evolution
and I tried to engage you on evolution
but you will not.

Why did none of your first many posts deal with evolution if evolution is your concern?
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11/29/2008 08:08 PM
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Well then, ok, your beliefs in God are not based on any Biblical understanding then.



Even a person in this thread that believes in God and evolution, me, oh my, my beliefs in God must not be based on any Biblical understanding.

Yes, I see, anyone that has an understanding of scripture in any way shape or form other than what you understand must be incorrect.

LOL, humble thyself or at least that ego. :)

One must humble themselves and their ego to understand The Book. There is no other way. It is self-denial, not self-assertion.

What is your understanding based on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543159


Most modern readers are unable to accept the biblical account of creation because it seems to lack logic. Scriptures are often symbolic.

The description of creation is intended to convey the different stages of evolution from a formless planet to one which supporst "every herb bearing seed, every tree, every beast of Earth, every fowl of the air, everything which creepeth upon Earth, and man.

In the early days of man's existence in this orbit, he is a uncomplicated creature without the ability to conceive of a world beyond his horizon, much less understand an account of creation which encompasses the entire solar system. The Bible was written with him in mind.

And the debate goes on...Creation vs Evolution and mankind still doesn't get it that they go hand in hand.
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Threads go wherever threads go
as we all know
and this is where this one has gone with us
for everyone to see.
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Yes, the thread is about evolution
and I tried to engage you on evolution
but you will not.

Why did none of your first many posts deal with evolution if evolution is your concern?
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Thread is about evolution, not about me, stop trying to derail it.
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Well then, ok, your beliefs in God are not based on any Biblical understanding then.



Even a person in this thread that believes in God and evolution, me, oh my, my beliefs in God must not be based on any Biblical understanding.

Yes, I see, anyone that has an understanding of scripture in any way shape or form other than what you understand must be incorrect.

LOL, humble thyself or at least that ego. :)

One must humble themselves and their ego to understand The Book. There is no other way. It is self-denial, not self-assertion.

What is your understanding based on?


Most modern readers are unable to accept the biblical account of creation because it seems to lack logic. Scriptures are often symbolic.

The description of creation is intended to convey the different stages of evolution from a formless planet to one which supporst "every herb bearing seed, every tree, every beast of Earth, every fowl of the air, everything which creepeth upon Earth, and man.

In the early days of man's existence in this orbit, he is a uncomplicated creature without the ability to conceive of a world beyond his horizon, much less understand an account of creation which encompasses the entire solar system. The Bible was written with him in mind.

And the debate goes on...Creation vs Evolution and mankind still doesn't get it that they go hand in hand.
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I can somewhat believe that, the problem is not god though.
The problem is connected evolution with RELIGION.
The two are so far from one another there is no way for each to co-exist.
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The "debating mind games" in here are getting old.
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Well then, ok, your beliefs in God are not based on any Biblical understanding then.



Even a person in this thread that believes in God and evolution, me, oh my, my beliefs in God must not be based on any Biblical understanding.

Yes, I see, anyone that has an understanding of scripture in any way shape or form other than what you understand must be incorrect.

LOL, humble thyself or at least that ego. :)

One must humble themselves and their ego to understand The Book. There is no other way. It is self-denial, not self-assertion.

What is your understanding based on?


Most modern readers are unable to accept the biblical account of creation because it seems to lack logic. Scriptures are often symbolic.

The description of creation is intended to convey the different stages of evolution from a formless planet to one which supporst "every herb bearing seed, every tree, every beast of Earth, every fowl of the air, everything which creepeth upon Earth, and man.

In the early days of man's existence in this orbit, he is a uncomplicated creature without the ability to conceive of a world beyond his horizon, much less understand an account of creation which encompasses the entire solar system. The Bible was written with him in mind.

And the debate goes on...Creation vs Evolution and mankind still doesn't get it that they go hand in hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 472562

But what is your understanding based on?
Is it just your own conclusions or are there some particular techings or teachers that you most admire?
What?
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So while i do believe in a higher being,
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How then?