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How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?

 
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How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
The ozone hole is an annual naturally occurring phenomenon that occurs every winter/spring and goes away every summer. It is caused by something called a polar vortex, or in otherwords a giant low pressure system of cold air. The 'hole' can also affected by local atmospheric conditions, any warm air system entering the antarctic area will make the entire hole disappear or split in half in a matter of days. In summer the hole completely disappears and normal ozone levels return.

The ozone hole fluctuates on a daily basis, however finding information on daily ozone levels is mysteriously hard to find. All PR shots published are always taken from September or October (the months with the biggest holes) and the worst day of the month is always used. Theozonehole.com just has an animation looping the two months over and over pretending all the other months don't exist. Basically the data is being manipulated to fit whatever trend they want to publish, anything else is discarded.

The discovery of ozone in the atmosphere and global observations of ozone levels have only been around for a few decades, meaning any observation of ozone levels before CFC's were even invented is impossible, so there is nothing to base this crisis off of.

Polar stratospheric clouds, which are implicated in causing the hole, containing nitric acid, can only be formed below -78C. These temperatures only exist in Antarctica in winter. The nitric acid clouds supposedly react with CFC's to form chlorine which destroys the ozone. The point being this only happens in Antarctica for a few months and the 'hole' can never extend beyond the range of the polar cold air, and also is unlikely of occurring in the Arctic due to higher temperatures. This part seems to be fairly plausible, and ozone is probably eliminated by this process, but I believe the levels to be highly exaggerated. It takes sunlight to create ozone and in the antarctic winter, there is none. Also if you look at the ozone hole images there is always (usually) a much higher than normal concentration of ozone directly outside or next to the hole, I propose that the ozone is not eliminated to form the hole but merely pushed away by the polar vortex.

Chlorine naturally occurs in the atmosphere so the hole will always exist as long as earth exists, so this 'crisis' is never ending and is perfect for exploitation by totalitarians. The hole indeed does exist, but only for a few months in an isolated area, and human activity certainly didn't create the hole, and there certainly is a giant propaganda campaign spewing lies about the ozone hole to create a false crisis to ram through draconian legislation. All this information was dug up in a couple of hours and punches some serious holes in their theories and exposes their propaganda, they expect nobody to even bother checking their facts or doubting them, silence is the key to their success. The same propaganda methods are used every time for every manufactured crisis, learn them so you won't be enslaved by them.
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Re: How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
bump

Give me a BS flag or something so I don't feel left out.
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Re: How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
bump

Give me a BS flag or something so I don't feel left out.
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I assumed the root cause of a so called ozone hole was because the earth has magnetic poles and that the magnetic fields had ALWAYS affected the particles of air above them.
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Re: How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
"Imagine you are strolling
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when, out of nowhere, comes a demented, hysterical character who wants to
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board-riders wear it out enough, the "layer of surf" will become so
depleted that it can no longer "hold back" the ocean, and the ocean will
flood over the land and destroy mankind. What would be your reaction to
such a person? "
from
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Re: How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
 Quoting: hb 272341


Excellent, fills in everything I was too lazy to write.
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Re: How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
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Re: How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
I don't think the illuminati benefit from people believing in an ozone hole. like they do with global warming and future carbon taxes. though you do have some interesting facts.
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is ok. my pole shifts too.
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
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Re: How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
Its really not though.

There is a lot of information in this book and it has a long story.


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Re: How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
Op is right in my book.

1. Nasa developes detection capabilities of ozone layer.
2. Nasa discovers ozone hole.

logical conclusion: Manmade.


Hilarious.
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Re: How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
The Weddell Sea
[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

"Science does not always correctly distinguish between environmental changes, which are caused by nature, and those, which are caused by man. The warming which is melting the ice shelves in West Antarctica is one case of mistaken identity. The warming in the region is thought to be caused by (the Industrial Age) discharging "greenhouse gases" into the upper atmosphere. The Truth is very different."

Our Home Planet
[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

"On December 26th 2004, our Earth experienced a strong contraction. Many do not understand what is happening upon our planet. Many do not understand the weather changes. Our Earth is undergoing a very natural process, which has taken place from Age to Age. This process brings life to a higher-evolved state of being with everything in Nature. This Holy Event explains the true origin of the Moon. It is the Truth for all planets and their moons.

The truth about the origin of our Moon is known and has been suppressed."

Sacred Path of Migration/Evolution
[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

"The destruction of colossal structures such as the Mayan cities of Yucatan and the burial of Leptis Magna illustrate the chaos wrought on Earth by an unseen agent of Nature. From the Menhirs of Carnac to the Nazca lines of Peru, enigmatic monuments bear evidence of the disappearance of prehistoric man and in sudden and unexpected cataclysmic changes. The force, which acted on Mother Earth, did not distinguish between temples, palaces and simple domiciles; it swallowed all structures in its path.

What agency produced such powerful paroxysms?"
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Just another example of science being a religion, just like evolution is also part of the science new age religion.
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Re: How many people out there know the ozone hole is as big a scam as global warming?
you opinion will be treasonous after 1/21/09
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