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The BRIDE (Misinterpreted as the WHOLE CHURCH)..WILL BE RAPTURED! BUT NOT The WHOLE CHURCH! What say you?

 
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You have said that the rapture = the day of the Lord. That is incorrect. Scripture says that the Bride (misinterpreted as the whole Church
) will be kept from the hour of testing. This is the rapture, to not have to be a martyr for not taking the mark of the beast and participating in the beast system. Those who have already given themselves to a spiritual death (take up your cross and follow me daily) will be raptured and kept from a physical death. And as Rev 3 says to Laodecea, she must go and by gold, tried in the fire. The refining fire of purification. To be a martyr for not dying to self earlier. After those that will be martyred have been, They are then called up (reserected) into heaven in the site of those who killed them. It is when Christ returns to the mount of Olives and ends the war at Megido, that the day of the Lord has come.

You also said to call Jesus by his correct name. His given name, after the Father, God himself is Jesus, the Christ. Which means Yahweh saves through the annointed one. He inherited the name of his Father, Yahweh.

He was concieved on the feast of Hannukah and was born on the Feast of Tabernacles or Booths. Which means God with us. So you are correct, as scripture tells us Jesus was a man so filled with the spirit that to look upon him is to see God himself. It also calls him the second Adam, a man untouched by sin. Think about it. How hard would it be for God to create a single sperm to fertalize one of Mary's eggs?
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Were just discussing, not arguing, there is no strife here...We are like friends sharing...Looking for a more full view of our ideas...OK?

The bible says in revelation "He goes after the remaining ones", and in song of Salomon, "she takes her back to the tree of decision and her mother says "Who is your beloved"



You have said that the rapture = the day of the Lord. That is incorrect. Scripture says that the Bride (misinterpreted as the whole Church
) will be kept from the hour of testing. This is the rapture, to not have to be a martyr for not taking the mark of the beast and participating in the beast system. Those who have already given themselves to a spiritual death (take up your cross and follow me daily) will be raptured and kept from a physical death. And as Rev 3 says to Laodecea, she must go and by gold, tried in the fire. The refining fire of purification. To be a martyr for not dying to self earlier. After those that will be martyred have been, They are then called up (reserected) into heaven in the site of those who killed them. It is when Christ returns to the mount of Olives and ends the war at Megido, that the day of the Lord has come.

You also said to call Jesus by his correct name. His given name, after the Father, God himself is Jesus, the Christ. Which means Yahweh saves through the annointed one. He inherited the name of his Father, Yahweh.

He was concieved on the feast of Hannukah and was born on the Feast of Tabernacles or Booths. Which means God with us. So you are correct, as scripture tells us Jesus was a man so filled with the spirit that to look upon him is to see God himself. It also calls him the second Adam, a man untouched by sin. Think about it. How hard would it be for God to create a single sperm to fertalize one of Mary's eggs?
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You have said that the rapture = the day of the Lord.
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1. Jesus has a new name

"I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches." Rev 3

2. Jesus does not come until after the new city of Jerusalem is built.

"These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place." Jesus Is Coming "Behold, I am coming soon! Rev 22

3. Most Christians haven't found the first heaven let alone the third one.

I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. 2 Corinthians 12:1-3

4. How many Christians know how the body of Christ is built up?

"the body of Christ may be built up" Ephesians 4:11-13

"to prepare God's people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up" Ephesians 4:11-13

5. How many Christians have made peace with themselves?

"Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful." Colossians 3:14-16

6. How many Christians have found the Christ within?

Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 1 Corinthians 12:26-28

I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Galatians 2:19-21

I eagerly expect and hope that I will in no way be ashamed, but will have sufficient courage so that now as always Christ will be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death. Philippians 1:19-21

7. How many Christians have healed/purified themselves mind, body and soul?

"without blemish and free from accusation—" Colossians 1:21-23

The body of Christ is not the Church because most do not fulfil the above. Also Jesus warned people not to build upon his foundations with building materials and those that did would burn in the flames. He also told his followers not to worship him because he knew that while they looked outside of themselves they would not find the Kingdom of God within.

8. How many Christians seek within?

Jesus told you "The Kingdom of God is within YOU".


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I say no rapture - none of us are that clean/good.

If God comes back we will all get it.
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they wont believe it..they are arrogant with gay tendancies.
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is there some reason why your jesus isn't here yet ? he has been coming for 2 thousand years seems like he would of been here by now. maybe he is lost ? or maybe it's just all bullshit...get real.
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...and the Bride, is not in a good mood anymore.
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He is not at all happy with them.
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I say no rapture - none of us are that clean/good.

If God comes back we will all get it.
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And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. Matthew 19:28-30

Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Matthew 24:39-41

Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. Mark 13:15-17 On that day no one who is on the roof of his house, with his goods inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. Luke 17:30-32

The Parable of the Ten Virgins

"At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish and five were wise. The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep."At midnight the cry rang out: 'Here's the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!'

"Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. The foolish ones said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.' " 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.'

"But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.

"Later the others also came. 'Sir! Sir!' they said. 'Open the door for us!'

"But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don't know you.'

"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

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He does surprise you when he comes....


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Re: The BRIDE (Misinterpreted as the WHOLE CHURCH)..WILL BE RAPTURED! BUT NOT The WHOLE CHURCH! What say you?
is there some reason why your jesus isn't here yet ? he has been coming for 2 thousand years seems like he would of been here by now. maybe he is lost ? or maybe it's just all bullshit...get real.
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GO HERE AND READ...FACE THE FACTS ABOUT GOD, AND YOURSELF....

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is there some reason why your jesus isn't here yet ? he has been coming for 2 thousand years seems like he would of been here by now. maybe he is lost ? or maybe it's just all bullshit...get real.




GO HERE AND READ...FACE THE FACTS ABOUT GOD, AND YOURSELF....

Thread: WOULD YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS if: OR WOULD YOU TRY TO FIND ANY EXCUSE not to? (Page 2)
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So that people know the meaning of the word blemish in Hebrew. Tamiym and it means to be complete, whole, entire, sound. Which also gives you [email protected] without defect in vision.

In Greek Amomos = as a sacrifice without spot or blemish.
Momos = without disgrace.

Shalom means "to be whole" and that is why Jesus was urging people to become whole through healing consciousness.



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This came into my heart not long ago. That those that "now" pick up their Cross and carry it for the sake of Christ will in fact be ready for the "snatching up" and the ones left will know they were "left" and have to work out their salvation by losing their lives for the sake of Christ. Let us all work to help our brothers and sister awake and chose Christ by carrying their cross, whatever it may be.
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I say no rapture - none of us are that clean/good.

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The Angels know when your soul is pure and they come to dress you and prepare you for his coming. It is a joyous time and one that I will never ever forget. This was written during that period in my life.

"Flying like a dolphin in unison and joy
The sea of emotion is like a still pond once more.

He holds my hand, I AM a bride of Christ
I wear his ring of protection, it is the ring past not, and carry his sacred heart in mine.

To look back at the past no more
For the present is a precious gift from GOD
Love is the path of no return,
for LOVE is the way to live life forevermore.

He inspires me with his presence
And I feel like the belle of the ball
Dancing through heaven, our Kingdom of Love
The Sacred Union with the Divine. "






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This came into my heart not long ago. That those that "now" pick up their Cross and carry it for the sake of Christ will in fact be ready for the "snatching up" and the ones left will know they were "left" and have to work out their salvation by losing their lives for the sake of Christ. Let us all work to help our brothers and sister awake and chose Christ by carrying their cross, whatever it may be.
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Be aware that one does not enter a marathon without any training.

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is there some reason why your jesus isn't here yet ? he has been coming for 2 thousand years seems like he would of been here by now. maybe he is lost ? or maybe it's just all bullshit...get real.
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I'd suggest, He's allowing you one more chance to get right with Him.



2 Peter 3:3-5 (King James Version)

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:


1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
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Re: The BRIDE (Misinterpreted as the WHOLE CHURCH)..WILL BE RAPTURED! BUT NOT The WHOLE CHURCH! What say you?
i say you are right...
and i KNEW i shoulda become a nun when i was 13...
i LOVE god...
but was tempted
and placed my love elsewhere...
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i say you are right...
and i KNEW i shoulda become a nun when i was 13...
i LOVE god...
but was tempted
and placed my love elsewhere...
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One thing about God...He loves us and we are flawed...So what does He do? Reject us? Despise us? Leave us? Get angry at us? NOOOO....

He loves us. If He were to leave and forsake us when we make a mistake, large or small, HE would have no bride left...All of us SIN...

What does He want when we sin? RUN TO HIM, bury your face in His skirt. Do you know what he says to you? "I love you, go and sin no more. But if you do, I will still forgive you again and again" Would I ask you to forgive your brothers over and over, and neglect to do the same myself?

We miss the point of the story, in Luke, where the son realizes that he would be fed and loved in his fathers house:

The story goes like this (rod's paraphrase)... "I'm so hungry, I know what I should do I will go to my father, and I will say father I have sinned against you, and heaven"

So off I go to my fathers house...But the weirdest thing happened, while I was still a long ways from the house, my father, he sees me, and as I get near and try to give Him all of my reasons for sinning, He just doesn't even hear my story...Its as if He is preoccupied with another desire...

I guess He was, for to my shame now I realize how much He loves me. And this was all realized by me, when I hear Him yelling; "get some good food, find my son some shoes, and some new royal cloths...For he is home again, we must celebrate"...

The bible says that when we are in heaven with Him, He will wipe the tears from our eyes...WHY will we be crying? Because of sin? NOOOOO. We will be crying because we see Him for who He really is, and because we see that during our whole lives we have misjudged and falsely accused God.

We thought He was a monster, when in fact all He wanted to do was reveal Himself as a savior and friend..That's why the old testament seems harsh, and displays the law to us, and requires a penalty...So that God has someone to save...a reason to send Jesus to die...So that we might receive forgiveness, and be with HIM forever...

You might say why did He have to do it that way? Why not just forget the law, and forgiveness, and just let me be with Him as I am?

God is holy, its His right to make a requirement and good of Him to fulfill that same requirement for us, as a gift...

Blessings to you.








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