DIGITAL DIVINITY- STAR OF BETHLEHEM MYSTERY SOLVED 'JESUS BIRTH PINPOINTED TO THE EXACT DAY' | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 546878 United States 12/07/2008 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The article doesn't mention it but the significance of the planets in the constellation of Leo is that Leo represents "kingship". So the magi anticipated the birth of a king. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 567589Jupiter is the king planet, and venus is associated with love. A loving king? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 270129 India 12/07/2008 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | * Software maps Star of Bethlehem Quoting: Anonymous Coward 524110* 'Solves mysteries' * 'Pinpoints star's location, date of Jesus' birth' IT'S an enduring mystery - and a source of equal wonder to scientists and Christians alike. But an Australian astronomer believes he has answered the riddle of the Bethlehem star, even narrowing down the date of Jesus' birth to a day. The guiding star that led the three wise men, or magi, to the birthplace of Jesus Christ is one of the most lasting symbols of biblical mythology. News editor of Sky and Space magazine Dave Reneke says complex charting software has allowed astronomers to map the night sky as it would have appeared more than 2000 years ago and has revealed a spectacular astronomical event at the time of Jesus' birth. "It's like a digital map where we can move forward in time as well as backwards," Mr Reneke explained. Generally accepted research has places the nativity to somewhere between 3BC and 1AD. Using the Bible book of Matthew as a reference point, Mr Reneke pinpointed the planetary conjunction to an exact date in 2BC. Similar to the planetary alignment of the "smiley face" witnessed across the Western sky last week, he said a "beacon of light" would have been visible across the eastern dawn sky as Venus and Jupiter moved across the constellation of Leo on June 17, 2BC. The conjunction of the planets was so close, he said the planets would have appeared as one bright star even with the naked eye. "It's called a star but it's really a planet," Mr Reneke said. "They could easily have mistaken it for one bright star. Astronomy is such a precise science, we can plot exactly where the planets were. It certainly seems this is the fabled Christmas star." Theories of such a conjunction have competed with speculation the star was caused by a supernova, an exploding star, or even a comet. By narrowing the date down, Mr Reneke said the technology has provided the most compelling explanation yet. Asked why the mystery held such significance, Mr Reneke said the story of the Christmas star is of particular emotional significance. "It cuts to the heart of what it means to be human beings," he said "Often when we mix science with religion in this kind of forum, it can upset people. In this case, I think this could serve to reinforce people's faith." [link to www.news.com.au] What the 'scientists' fail to understand is this: The 'star' was NOT A STAR NOR A CONSTELLATION OR ANY OTHER HEAVENLY BODIES. (Here is a hint) Exo 13:21 And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night: Exo 13:22 He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people. SO they are wrong with their theory. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 439743 Cayman Islands 12/07/2008 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO they are wrong with their theory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270129How do you know how they were led? Ship navigation by the stars was commonplace throughout history. The stars didn't have to physically move for navigation to take place. lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 563343 United States 12/08/2008 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone that has worked with the partial derivatives of celestial mechanics can tell you that it is impossible to retro calculate back even 400 years much less 2000 years. There are so many unspoken assumptions in all attempts to do so. One of the biggest assumptions made is the very one that the Scriptures warned about, that not everything has continued on the same today as it was in the days of "the fathers". The Doctrine of Uniformitarianism is a big bugaboo for all those attempting to retro calculate things even as little as 2,000 years ago. THe Planetary Hypothesis is not at all new with this particular astronomer, E.W. Bullinger reaches a very similar conclusion over a hundred years ago. That said. Sometimes, a Star is just a Star. |
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visitor User ID: 569281 United States 12/09/2008 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's pretty hard to find a birthday for a fictional character. Quoting: InfoFrontDon't be an ass. Josephus and other external non-Biblical documents mention Yashua ("Jesus" in the Greek) of Nazareth. Even the Koran. |
easy come easy cow... User ID: 568850 Italy 12/09/2008 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UFO operation . HQ was in /near Merkeb/south Yemen. Frm a deep underground base.Tall greys coalition. The same who made Mohamed 's role and created thus another religion. Religions are tools to manipulate. have an iced day |
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TEXAS UNCENSORED User ID: 569242 United States 12/10/2008 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I photo'd them, hundreds of photos. No joke. Sent them to the news stations. The wise men followed a 'star' that moved and guided them. Okay. Really now. Stars don't move and guide people. UFO's can, and do. Once you accept that, then it is easy to understand the bible. It becomes easy to understand what Jesus meant when he said his father's kingdom was not of this world. Heavens = Sky |
InfoFront User ID: 530466 United States 12/10/2008 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's pretty hard to find a birthday for a fictional character. Quoting: visitor 569281Don't be an ass. Josephus and other external non-Biblical documents mention Yashua ("Jesus" in the Greek) of Nazareth. Even the Koran. The works of Josephus were altered by the Roman Church. This is the same with many of the other non-biblical documents you mention. This site addresses all of that fairly well: [link to www.jesusneverexisted.com] The Romans abruptly stopped feeding Christians to lions when they realized this religion would serve them well as a tool to enslave and pacify the masses and ensure Rome's power. Rome remained the center of world power until at least the 17th century, and Christianity has remained the opiate of the masses. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 548321 United States 12/17/2008 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't actually read the article, or whatever you posted OP. I figured out this mystery a long time ago. Pretty easy to see. That fucking story is so fake. Right after I figured out there was no Santa Clause, the whole christianity SCAM went right out the window for me. I can't figure out how grown ass people can believe that bullshit. Merry X-mas bitch! |
52 cent User ID: 560681 United States 12/17/2008 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (Here is a hint) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270129Exo 13:21 And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night: Exo 13:22 He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people. SO they are wrong with their theory. Sounds more like a real close Comet...But how do you get one at both day and nigh time? Maybe a long term (1000 year)Comet split in to 2 parts, from a close encounter with some large Oort cloud object(planet x?). Like Shoemaker/Levy 9 did with Jupiter. Over time, being still on the same trajectory, had enough separation that one half was visible in the day and the other half was visible at night. Then got swept into the sun on that final pass. There is no seasonal meteor shower like the Leonids because this Comet wasn't on the same plane as earth. |
52 cent User ID: 560681 United States 12/17/2008 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More Info... [link to en.wikipedia.org] "The Leonids are famous because their meteor showers, or storms, can be, and have been in a few cases, among the most spectacular. Because of the superlative storm of 1833 and the recent developments in scientific thought the Leonids have had a major effect on the development of the scientific study of meteors which had previously been thought to be atmospheric phenomena. The meteor storm of 1833 was of truly superlative strength. One estimate is over one hundred thousand meteors an hour..." "Initially, the exact location of the dust was unknown. A graph published in Sky and Telescope adapted from Comet 55P/Tempel-Tuttle and the Leonid Meteors shows relative positions of the Earth and Comet and marks where Earth encountered dense dust. This showed basically that the particles are behind and outside the path of the comet, but paths resulting in powerful storms were very near paths of nearly no activity..." "However, a close encounter with Jupiter is expected to perturb the comet's path, and many streams, making storms of historic magnitude unlikely for many decades..." |
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