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GREEK RIOTS: Greek protesters seize TV studio

 
Ostria

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12/12/2008 02:06 PM
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The police there can't even arrest them because they are not allowed to make arrests on campus!!! So the urban anarchists retreat to college campuses. Can you believe it! What an ass backwards law.
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The University asylum is "holy" for us. The break of the Polytechnic asylum by the artillery brought the end of the dictatorship back in 1973.

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Cosmic Bee  (OP)

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12/12/2008 02:10 PM
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I'm disappointed that not many people are looking here even with a pin. Maybe its the time of the day but people should go and find the news with the internet - not let mainstream media play it down with a 20 second mention then go on to something else. This is historic...
 Quoting: mark 570411



Have hope Mark...People are paying attention and learning a great deal. Can't help the media coverage, but there is the internet!
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12/12/2008 02:11 PM
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Thank you for keeping us up to date. Somehow, this seems to escape the news where I live. Go figure.
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Your welcome. hf
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12/12/2008 02:13 PM
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no way! i posted this shit last night..
Thread: Greek-inspired protests spread across Europe, a protest is organized for this Friday in Greece
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12/12/2008 02:18 PM
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Awwww...... hf



PART ONE


PART TWO
Anonymous Coward
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12/12/2008 02:25 PM
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The Greek Students have spoken against the capitalist thugs who murder children.

The Americn consumer has spoken against the capitalist thugs who would rob them.


No they havn't. The American consumer is just a sheep that is only now getting sheared. Notice how the big news today is how the big 3 are unworthy of a measly 15billion while another bankster gets away with stealing tens of billions.
Corrupt politicians selling off parts of the system and even when they get caught red handed they just post bail and get back to work.
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and the stupid people cannot see this...very frustrating!
Levski
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12/12/2008 03:00 PM
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This is it! TSHTF right next to my own country. It Doesn't get much worse. This truly is doom.
Cosmic Bee
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12/12/2008 04:22 PM
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.....the uprising in Greece is tapping into broader conscious and unconscious feelings of anger at the economic break-down and repression.


an interesting perspective: [link to www.zmag.org]
89446

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12/12/2008 04:33 PM
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Greek police attacks journalists, students and teachers Athens, 12.12.2008


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Seriously, there's no attack there. There are several cops overpowering some people through sheer force of numbers and trying to detain them. I see no hits.

Do you realise what a riot police attack looks like? Look at this:

[link to www.youtube.com]

In all the images on the riots in Greece that I've seen until now on the TV and youtube I've never seen the riot police using their batons to beat the rioters.

It's like a childs' play in comparison to what riots are in other places of this world. I don't know, something doesn't seem right. The Greek police is treating these rioters very kindly. A push and shove there, a tear cas shot here etc.
If this was happening in my city these anarchists would face some tough sh!t and end up seriously bruised.
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89446

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12/12/2008 04:43 PM
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Add this to the mix - FROM AP NEWS AGENCY:

Despite the rioting, Justice Ministry officials said Friday the government will proceed with plans to release some 5,000 inmates, or about 40 percent of Greece's prison population, starting this month. That move follows a mass hunger strike staged by inmates last month to protest overcrowding...

OMG!!!
 Quoting: mark 570411


Oh my, those people must have reached the bottom of the incompetence barrel! Freeing 5,000 inmates at a time of riots (I bet the inmates can spell LOOT), when a lot of people have anti-cop feelings and when any cop will fear pulling out his gun if he is attacked? Great, just great.
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Anonymous Coward
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12/12/2008 04:44 PM
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People, there is nothing significant happening in Greece. Granted, there were a few events, but nothing to worry about. It will die down, because the Christmas vacations are coming...
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12/12/2008 05:02 PM
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roioting terrorist wreck greece commerce..delinquents should be locked up..civilian citizen bussines owner should shoot on sight, anyone carrying a petrol bomb toward thier residents or autos or bussines establishments..that will slow down the the commerce terrorist..tell media to go home..and then the kick petro bomb terrorist out of colledge and anyone else who destroyed any civilian or goverment property. then arrest as petro terrorist,and that would be anyone who threw the petro bombs to destroy civilian interest or instill fear of body or property harm.......commom sense always works best ,in the end..any questions...this strategy should have been used on day one..martial law was needed on day one ..these students destroyed the commerce that one day would provide them, thier jobs...
Ostria

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12/12/2008 05:03 PM
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Do you realise what a riot police attack looks like? Look at this:

[link to www.youtube.com]

In all the images on the riots in Greece that I've seen until now on the TV and youtube I've never seen the riot police using their batons to beat the rioters.

 Quoting: 89446



First here we are not Korea.
Second we dont have many images or videos from the attacks of the police to the rioters. These attacks happen mostly at night and there is none allowed to take pics or videos (eg from exarchia sqaure)

The police attacked the cameramen today because they were taking some shots of them beating students and they broke their cameras.
89446

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12/12/2008 06:01 PM
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First here we are not Korea.
Second we dont have many images or videos from the attacks of the police to the rioters. These attacks happen mostly at night and there is none allowed to take pics or videos (eg from exarchia sqaure)

The police attacked the cameramen today because they were taking some shots of them beating students and they broke their cameras.
 Quoting: Ostria


Doesn't matter where it happened, that's what an ATTACK is. Riot police moving in force and using their batons and shields.

You're saying the attacks happen at night and nothing is filmed. I doubt it. If the cops can be so sloppy as to be photographed using a gun in broad daylight I doubt they have much control over what is filmed or photographed.

Not only that, but if the attacks happen at night as you say, how come the rioters still hold? How many anarchists are in custody? Any info on that?

To me the police looks sloppy. Instead of moving in to trap and neutralize the groups of anarchists as they show up, they throw tear gas at them. The anarchists are free to go back home where they rest and eat and then rejoin the riots later on. How long will the police allow this to go on?
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89446

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12/12/2008 06:07 PM
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Actually I found some info about the arrests here:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Ostria

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12/12/2008 06:24 PM
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Doesn't matter where it happened, that's what an ATTACK is. Riot police moving in force and using their batons and shields.

You're saying the attacks happen at night and nothing is filmed. I doubt it. If the cops can be so sloppy as to be photographed using a gun in broad daylight I doubt they have much control over what is filmed or photographed.

Not only that, but if the attacks happen at night as you say, how come the rioters still hold? How many anarchists are in custody? Any info on that?

To me the police looks sloppy. Instead of moving in to trap and neutralize the groups of anarchists as they show up, they throw tear gas at them. The anarchists are free to go back home where they rest and eat and then rejoin the riots later on. How long will the police allow this to go on?
 Quoting: 89446



I have no info on how many are in custody. I heard a number near 200 earlier today but I dont know if it is only in Athens or a sum from all the towns. Then it is not clear if these are rioters, protestors, or looters.
There are hi schools and university buildings under occupation. Hi scholl students are mostly at schools and
anarchists along with uni students are in universities.

If you have read my messages from the beggining, I believe there are some provocators or police people within the anarchist groups, so we never have massive arrests all these years. They arrest some poor kids and take them to the court but they never catch leaders or the people who call for riots. I believe they use the riots in order to manipulate the society.
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12/12/2008 06:30 PM
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[link to video.google.co.uk]

this is how u do it
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12/12/2008 07:11 PM
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[link to video.google.co.uk]

this is how u do it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 571182


that's fucking awesome
mark
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12/12/2008 07:23 PM
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[link to video.google.co.uk]

this is how u do it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 571182


ha ha. Fucking poll tax. I missed having to ever pay that by about a week!!!! yeeey!!!
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12/12/2008 07:48 PM
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Doesn't matter where it happened, that's what an ATTACK is. Riot police moving in force and using their batons and shields.

You're saying the attacks happen at night and nothing is filmed. I doubt it. If the cops can be so sloppy as to be photographed using a gun in broad daylight I doubt they have much control over what is filmed or photographed.

Not only that, but if the attacks happen at night as you say, how come the rioters still hold? How many anarchists are in custody? Any info on that?

To me the police looks sloppy. Instead of moving in to trap and neutralize the groups of anarchists as they show up, they throw tear gas at them. The anarchists are free to go back home where they rest and eat and then rejoin the riots later on. How long will the police allow this to go on?

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I have no info on how many are in custody. I heard a number near 200 earlier today but I dont know if it is only in Athens or a sum from all the towns. Then it is not clear if these are rioters, protestors, or looters.
There are hi schools and university buildings under occupation. Hi scholl students are mostly at schools and
anarchists along with uni students are in universities.

If you have read my messages from the beggining, I believe there are some provocators or police people within the anarchist groups, so we never have massive arrests all these years. They arrest some poor kids and take them to the court but they never catch leaders or the people who call for riots. I believe they use the riots in order to manipulate the society.
 Quoting: Ostria


Very likely. Keep reporting what you hear and see. Rumours are most accurate the closer they are to the action (and most inaccurate and suspicious the farther away)..

In a similar lawless mass uprising situation, I followed the Quaker screed: non-violence, but a passive witness. Dont let the media and PTB spin the story. Go out and witness the truth, Say truthfully what you dont know, learn how humans behave, how the State behaves, and NEVER forget...

Good luck!
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12/12/2008 07:52 PM
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and btw, the arsenal of the State is nothing compared to a determined mass uprising. Police and soldiers are only human and will shy away from confrontation if they feel they face defeat, or if they sympathize. In other words, a point is reached where they will disobey orders to attack...

If the State seems powerless to do anything, it probably means it is...
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12/12/2008 07:57 PM
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First here we are not Korea.
Second we dont have many images or videos from the attacks of the police to the rioters. These attacks happen mostly at night and there is none allowed to take pics or videos (eg from exarchia sqaure)

The police attacked the cameramen today because they were taking some shots of them beating students and they broke their cameras.


Doesn't matter where it happened, that's what an ATTACK is. Riot police moving in force and using their batons and shields.

You're saying the attacks happen at night and nothing is filmed. I doubt it. If the cops can be so sloppy as to be photographed using a gun in broad daylight I doubt they have much control over what is filmed or photographed.

Not only that, but if the attacks happen at night as you say, how come the rioters still hold? How many anarchists are in custody? Any info on that?

To me the police looks sloppy. Instead of moving in to trap and neutralize the groups of anarchists as they show up, they throw tear gas at them. The anarchists are free to go back home where they rest and eat and then rejoin the riots later on. How long will the police allow this to go on?
 Quoting: 89446


Your analysis doesnt match up to the facts. YOu seem confused and bewildered about what is happening, and can only grope for answers by declring that your country would react differently. That is a next to useless observation...
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12/12/2008 08:08 PM
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Everybody in a riot are so disorganised. I have often wondered if there is any market for a underground company called "riot support". Consisting of highly trained, muscular to use as crack troops to break up the ranks of the riot police...
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12/12/2008 08:31 PM
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 Quoting: aaron_o.o



but you AINT in Athens...

CB is boots on the ground...

SHE LIVES THERE
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12/12/2008 08:38 PM
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Everybody in a riot are so disorganised. I have often wondered if there is any market for a underground company called "riot support". Consisting of highly trained, muscular to use as crack troops to break up the ranks of the riot police...
 Quoting: Yahweh 570975

Yes they're called Damage Inc.
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12/12/2008 11:43 PM
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Mandatory Suicide


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12/13/2008 01:05 AM
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I'm just glad the Greeks are in Greece where their tantrums and rioting won't affect the rest of the peaceful sane world.

Greece can riot till they're blue in the face. Then when they get it out of their system they can join the rest of the adults.

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By February maybe the Greeks will be able to
watch the riots in the US via Internet.
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12/13/2008 03:33 AM
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FUCK THE SYSTEM
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Very likely. Keep reporting what you hear and see. Rumours are most accurate the closer they are to the action (and most inaccurate and suspicious the farther away)..

In a similar lawless mass uprising situation, I followed the Quaker screed: non-violence, but a passive witness. Dont let the media and PTB spin the story. Go out and witness the truth, Say truthfully what you dont know, learn how humans behave, how the State behaves, and NEVER forget...

Good luck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 183770


Thanks! Im trying to report the general feeling and what I see is a general protest against both the government/police and the rioters/looters. The thing is, we dont want a police state who kills a 15 year old for no cause, we need changes in the laws for the education and the economy (not new antiterrorist laws), and we dont want to let any political party use these protest for their own plans, because it is their politics all these years which resulted to this.





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