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>>>Got this in my inbox - Best e-mail all year... The URINE TEST

 
3rdDayRising
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>>>Got this in my inbox - Best e-mail all year... The URINE TEST
The Urine test
THIS GUY MAKES A GOOD POINT
This was written by a construction worker in Fort MacMurray- he sure makes a lot of sense.


"I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig site for a Fort Mac construction project. I am required to pass a random urine test, with which I have no problem.

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare cheque because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand that I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their ass drinking beer and smoking dope.

Could you imagine how much money the provinces would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance cheque? Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don't.

Hope you will pass it along though, because something has to change in this country, and soon!!!"

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12/08/2008 09:56 PM
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wow i totaly agree but if people could think like this we would be in a different situation.
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12/08/2008 09:57 PM
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responsibility is a good point you make
although, i pay taxes and work, but i drink and smoke
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wow i totaly agree but if people could think like this we would be in a different situation.
 Quoting: rachel 529732

Too logical for today's politically castrated eh? lmao I did not realize they did not random screen them and I agree, if we processed things with this type of logic, this nation would be in a whole different place right now...
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What about controlling the import of drugs into your country!

After 911 the US Drug market never even blinked! I would like someone explain that one to me.
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12/08/2008 10:07 PM
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responsibility is a good point you make
although, i pay taxes and work, but i drink and smoke
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You drink and smoke with the money YOU earned, not with other people's cheque deductions. YOU would not need to submit a urine test.
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where I work, they do random checks on people that are on assisitance
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where I work, they do random checks on people that are on assisitance
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Good to hear that !! ; )
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I support any mechanism that seeks to lump all of humanity into one nebulous, indistinguishable mass of unintelligent zombies. I see the mandatory piss test for all as a step in the right direction.

Why anyone would support trash of the variety the email speaks of is beyond me. The goal of an email like that is to foster class/gender/racial/etc. conflict.

another do agent
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12/08/2008 10:11 PM
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Smart guy.
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****************MAJOR FLAW**********************

DOES NOT CORRECT THE PROBLEM AT THE SOURCE


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Easier too stop the source of drugs or stop them from entering the country then to try to stop 10's of millions of drug users.
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What about controlling the import of drugs into your country!

After 911 the US Drug market never even blinked! I would like someone explain that one to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 567513

Interestingly enough, there is a past model to shed some light on that. During the depression, one business really took off. Alcohol. In trying times people seek to either numb themselves to the reality of it all and drugs and alcohol become the refuge of many. I did so with alcohol. Now I only drank on the weekends, but after the death of my sister, I looked forward to the weekend more than ever. Even a few moments of drunken laughter to forget the terrible pain I was in made it well worth the hangover and I treasured those moments of relief where my friends could get me to smile.

I see no difference after 9-11 than with my case, except it was on a much larger scale. People were angry, sad, upset and many lost family members. Perhaps this type of depression and sadness could explain the usage holding steady. However, I believe if our government really wanted to eliminate the drug problem, they would make it legal to shatter the price for the growers and then put an agenda of media downing of the habits to guide public opinion on the matter. The more you tell people they can;t have something, the more they want it. Ever notice that. Basic psychology really and I believe it is one of the tools they are using to destroy this nation. We didn't have the teenage binge drinking nearly as bad when I was a kid as we do today. I used to go to the local station and buy a few brewskies and cigs for my pop and it was no big deal. Now they have passed ridiculous laws on everything aside from breathing and I am sure they will be on that one soon...
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****************MAJOR FLAW**********************

DOES NOT CORRECT THE PROBLEM AT THE SOURCE


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Easier too stop the source of drugs or stop them from entering the country then to try to stop 10's of millions of drug users.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 567513

Stop the source by making it legal and destroying the market value. Simultaneously launch a media campaign via hollywood etc to steer public opinion like they do for everything else...

That's my idea. I do not support drugs, but I can see that the reason why the growers are so inclined ot do so is because the drugs are illegal, and subsequently the price is 1000s of times more than if it were legal. Take out the grower with prices and the market dissipates...
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****************MAJOR FLAW**********************

DOES NOT CORRECT THE PROBLEM AT THE SOURCE


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Stop the source by making it legal and destroying the market value. Simultaneously launch a media campaign via hollywood etc to steer public opinion like they do for everything else...

That's my idea. I do not support drugs, but I can see that the reason why the growers are so inclined ot do so is because the drugs are illegal, and subsequently the price is 1000s of times more than if it were legal. Take out the grower with prices and the market dissipates...
 Quoting: 3rdDayRising


Like the covert operations that depend on covert funding are ever going to let that happen.
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12/08/2008 10:45 PM
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I also find it strange that the 'market value' is super stable
and even had reductions in prices in pass 30years.
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12/08/2008 10:46 PM
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That makes too much damn sense for the government to even consider implementing such a requirement!
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That makes too much damn sense for the government to even consider implementing such a requirement!
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LOL!
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****************MAJOR FLAW**********************

DOES NOT CORRECT THE PROBLEM AT THE SOURCE


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Stop the source by making it legal and destroying the market value. Simultaneously launch a media campaign via hollywood etc to steer public opinion like they do for everything else...

That's my idea. I do not support drugs, but I can see that the reason why the growers are so inclined ot do so is because the drugs are illegal, and subsequently the price is 1000s of times more than if it were legal. Take out the grower with prices and the market dissipates...


Like the covert operations that depend on covert funding are ever going to let that happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 312848

lmao Devil better wear a warm coat on that day
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That makes too much damn sense for the government to even consider implementing such a requirement!
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I am sure that our current mutated form of the republic would declare such an act hostile and unconstitutional, albeit they apparently haven't the slightest inkling of what is contained in the constitution anymore, but they would declare it such nonetheless...thwak
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That makes too much damn sense for the government to even consider implementing such a requirement!

I am sure that our current mutated form of the republic would declare such an act hostile and unconstitutional, albeit they apparently haven't the slightest inkling of what is contained in the constitution anymore, but they would declare it such nonetheless...thwak
 Quoting: 3rdDayRising

ACLU
Need I say more?

It's a brilliant idea.
Too bad those jokers in Washington can't think out of the box like this!
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12/08/2008 11:16 PM
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so....everyone should have to pass a urine test!!!!!!!

go losers
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12/08/2008 11:17 PM
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Well, shit. How do I sign up for this guy's taxes to pay for my dope and beer? This shit is getting expensive. I want in on this action.
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:hitler:
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so....everyone should have to pass a urine test!!!!!!!

go losers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 568503

Just the ones that are being supported by your hard earned money. The notion is so logical it could never possibly work. Introducing legislation like this on the Senate floor would be the equivalent of introducing matter to anti-matter...
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if the construction workers are doing a good job, and are productive employees, it's not the employers business whether they have a drink or smoke a dube or whatever in their free time.
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That makes too much damn sense for the government to even consider implementing such a requirement!

I am sure that our current mutated form of the republic would declare such an act hostile and unconstitutional, albeit they apparently haven't the slightest inkling of what is contained in the constitution anymore, but they would declare it such nonetheless...thwak

ACLU
Need I say more?

It's a brilliant idea.
Too bad those jokers in Washington can't think out of the box like this!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 113248

That pretty much covers it along with the EEO program...
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12/08/2008 11:31 PM
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where I work, they do random checks on people that are on assisitance
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Random checks?

Where do you live? I'm sure they do not require random drug screenings.

The truth is the government would prefer for the proles to be addicted to drugs and the tit of welfare for generation after generation.

It is not meant to give anyone a step up. It's meant to keep them down. Once you cross that threshold of household income the "assistance" ends... the problem is that the threshold is insanely low.

Most people are left with two choices: continue to rely on big brother to care for you, or take that better paying job and go broke trying to make ends meet.

Although in principle I am against random drug testing, there are some situations in which I see the need... I don't want a melt-head flying my airplane when I go to Florida to visit the in-laws.
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12/08/2008 11:36 PM
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the email, letter you are referring to is an old , old email that does the rounds every now and then and is nothing more than an attempt to force drug testing on all the people.

I know what you are thinking, "I dont do drugs, i am all right".

Sorry bad news for you.It is not just for weed,speed etc it will cover painkillers,anti-depressents etc. It is the same with the drug stops on the roads in Australia. Testing for weed now but the police have stated that they are really after prescription drug users driving on the roads.

Lucky in Australia we will have smart cards soon that will be used to go the doctor (your medicare smart card ) and then used to get your prescription. You will also have to hand it to the police officer at the road side stop. He/she will scan your card and it will said wither you should be on the road due to your presciption.
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12/08/2008 11:41 PM
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Lucky in Australia we will have smart cards


You will also have to hand it to the police officer at the road side stop. He/she will scan your card and it will said wither you should be on the road due to your presciption.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 568575


Lucky?

I'll be damned if some cop is doing any kind of test of my bodily fluids without some kind of court order.

Write me my ticket and gtfo.
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they wont need t test u. the information will be n your medicare/driver license/ I.D. smartcard.
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If they are testing for illegal drugs, why not test for legal drugs. If people are tested as a work safety issue, then they should all be tested for legal drugs. I don't want trust some worker pilled out on prescription drugs in my workplace. People go postal on that shit, not pot.





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