Chemtrails-They do not care what we see now

I agree.
Something is up.

The Cting has gone back into pre 9-11 mode.

The Jet stream has taken a sudden southward dive and the weather personalities are using terms(nervously) which are vague and false.

Ga. also

PA is a mess.

last week..in my neck of the woods....it was INCREIDBLE..

I must have seen 15 or more big fat chemtrails...and 2-3 days later..the weather was all screwed up...

Yep, NE Fla here too. Obvious grid patterns uturns, and have seen leave trails of massive radius turns of 90 degrees.

Why don't you get some videos of the planes spraying and turning?

Do people really think its planes, LOL

It is the atmosphere.

That might be worse....

I can't wait to hear what G. House and Duncan have to say about this!

anyone who says there isn't something wrong is in serious denial or an idiot.

i knew there was something up with them when i first saw them when i was 8.

go screw

The OP writes:




Well, get a video camera or find somebody with a camera and post some pictures of this. Otherwise, debunkers are going to correctly say you're just another AC posting anecdotal accounts on the internet.

We used to get them here all the time. However, for the last few years, NONE, except for a few weak ones now and then.

HOW TO STOP CHEMTRAILS
[link to unveiling.18.forumer.com]

This method/modality is free, takes just a few minutes, and you do it yourself. We all have enormous unrecognized abilities, and it's time to access and use those abilities. Our controlers are terrified that we will begin to discover who we really are.


Furthermore, the CT "planes" are, for the most part, not real planes, hence our capability to eliminate them:

Kin's reply to this post 3 September 2007
[link to z3.invisionfree.com]

Now I understand why I can "disappear" a spewplane with a little ray work.
[link to z3.invisionfree.com]
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Those 'black DOR beams' which seem to act like tram tracks for the flyers are very interesting phenomena, are they not. They're done by craft, not ground facilities. The 'filling in' with trail of one sort or another is then from terrestial sources. It's a collaborative effort, iow.

The filling is done by nothing than another black beam, this time terrestial-based. The intersection of the two beams is where 'matter' then manifests, matter according to the frequency of the beam settings. Hence the different trail types...

And there are never any 'flyers' up there anymore, that's the point!
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Take a look at these:
[link to www.orbwar.com]

[link to www.carnicom.com]

Discussion:
[link to groups.yahoo.com]
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Re: Chemtrails
Lorae:
Thinking... What if they use one technology to create the illusion of a plane and another to create very real CT's? Makes sense if it takes more effort to create real whatevers in our reality, but less effort to create illusions.

--- In [email protected], "Lorae Ireland" <[email protected]> wrote:

Maybe not holographic, we don't know. But, yes, the trails are quite "real". I try not to understand everything, but simply register what is, maybe the true explanation will show up later.

--- In [email protected], "K" wrote:

so you are saying that the fake holographic planes are spewing real chemtrails or fake chemtrails, and if fake, why? -K.
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--- In [email protected], "J" wrote:
Simply because its cheaper and a lot safer for them to push these fake planes through from the other side of the veil. No planes need, non of the associated costs or paperwork, also no prying eyes while loading chem materials into separate tanks on regular planes, and the risks of exposure of the whole spray campaign, and no large numbers of transport planes taking off and landing.

"K":
My question would be, why are they bothering to use the occasional real plane. I can only guess at this...maybe some real 3D stuff has to initiate this process, or they need to show that real honest to goodness planes spew this white stuff as a normal byproduct of flying. I dunno, maybe its something else entirely.

Since they are using real planes and spraying real chemtrails, why would the PTBs also use holographic planes and fake chemtrails? I don't get the point- having
a senior lapse......... -K.

------ Original Message ------
Received: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:22:47 PM ES From: "s"
To: [email protected]
Subject: [The-Unveiling] Re: Chemtrails

Definitely correct about the holograph + sounds.

Yesterday had a low-flying sprayer with LOUD jet noise. Couldn't tell that my rays did anything (haven't been doing well) shortly the "plane" disappeared while the spray continued.

Also, I've noticed that I'm having problems with my rays sometimes. If anything, sometimes it seems that my ray makes the situation worse and not better; that is the sections I do ray on will seem to last for quite a while whereas the areas I didn't ray seem to disappear much more quickly. Does this signify something very wrong in my mindstate/consciousness/etc?

--- In [email protected], "j." wrote:

Just a quick word on chem spraying...it seems even the craft that make a noise like an aircraft may not be real...concentrated on a couple of spraying craft recently that were making aircraft sounds, and when the aircraft disappeared and left a cylindrical shape, as in a spray unit, the sound was still emenating from that spray unit. Mind you some are real aircraft... have tried with them, to no avail. Will keep an eye on this.
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You have great insight. The first chemtrail I observed was 50 miles south of Cape Canaveral at about April 1997. This I later learned was the beginning of massive spraying. I thought at first it was a launch from the cape. The exhaust trail was huge. But then I realized the trail began east of the cape out in the area of the Bermuda Triangle. I've been looking up everyday since.

G. Mouse, Drunken Koot and The Lie should be here any time to tell us what they think....gee I can't wait.

Waiting....

So I take it you've never forgotten something and had to go back and get it?

They must be on vacation. I have not seen any of them today...

Not that I have been here all day to know.

:oo:

ohhh teehhee.. see.. even G.House doesn't take himself too seriously.. :)

actually - the planes were ahead of schedule , and the airport runways were full -
so the pilots were just
filling in time flying back & forth across the sky
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among the high thin from time to time clouds

For sure a vacation in Daytona during the weekend they sprayed up and down the beaches all day until everyone left.

even Duncan no longer takes himself seriously.He now claims Coral feed on chem-trail dust! [link to www.duncankunz.smugmug.com]

it makes some pretty sunsets that's for sure

This is an interesting chemtrail thread. The idea that UFO's are involved in the trails is correct. I suspected it a long time ago. Now I have photos of UFO's flying these trails.
As one of the posts suggest, they may appear like an airplane, but actually be UFO's. I have photos of that as well. [link to picasaweb.google.com]

Please have a look. I just uploaded these. Click forward, about 10 of these, 3 different kinds.

[link to picasaweb.google.com]

You wouldn't believe him if he did and you saw it.

Thanks for those. I remembered these pics of yours from some time ago: [link to picasaweb.google.com]


[link to picasaweb.google.com]

[link to picasaweb.google.com]

Don't look for a saucer-shape. Now do you see the craft? Pretty creepy. AND HUGE...

Off-topic here a bit, here's what followed my car for forty miles in 2005: [link to i18.photobucket.com]

[link to i18.photobucket.com]

And, what in the hell is THIS? NOT photo-enhanced, but the jelly-fish thingy wasn't visible to the naked eye:
[link to i18.photobucket.com]

Photos of chemtrails here several years ago. We've not had them for a very long time now since I began my little "clearing" routine. I do this about once a month, which seems to work.
[link to i18.photobucket.com]

[link to i18.photobucket.com]

We absolutley must escape from the control of matrix-programming, what passes as the consensus reality. Remember, not that long ago the consensus reality was that the Earth was flat. Think how "they" had a real hissy-fit about Galileo.

Chemtrails are NOT created by real earth-based planes. Got it?

Why do you care? Are they your sugar daddies? They are just as much an expert as you are.

Read a few books and make an opinion. Anyone that takes the advice of internet posters without research doesn't stand a chance in the world.

Why do you care?

Why do you care?