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UPDATE: OUT OF 100k+ AMERICANS POLLED -- 53% THINK OBAMA IS NOT A CITIZEN!!!

 
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I guess the OP hasn't seen this yet:

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You're funny you Americans !

BUSH is an American citizen, I would suggest you to keep

BUSH as President !!

No ???


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Who gives a shit. Pick your puppett.
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Investigator casts doubt on Obama's birth residence
Neighbor believes family didn't live at address in newspaper announcement


Barack Obama and his mother, Anne Dunham A private investigator has released to WND an affidavit that casts doubt on whether Barack Obama's family lived at the address listed in the published notice of his birth in 1961.

Jorge Baro was hired by WND to investigate issues related to Obama's birth amid allegations the Democrat does not meet the Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural born citizen."

Baro's affidavit documents an interview his staff conducted with Beatrice Arakaki, who has lived at 6075 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu since before Obama was born.

The affadivit is at the center of a federal lawsuit filed prior to the November election in Hattiesburg, Miss., before U.S. District Judge Keith Starrett. The suit is one of several yet to be adjudicated that calls for proof of Obama being a "natural born citizen" as required by the Constitution.

Baro is the in-house senior investigator for Elite Legal Services, LLC, in Royal Palm Beach, Fla.

In Hawaii, WND was able to locate at the Honolulu public library microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser Aug. 13, 1961. The announcement in the "Births, Marriages, Death" section read: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4."

Arakaki told Baro's investigators she had no recollection of Obama being born or of the family living next door having a black child born to a white mother.

Baro sent a team of investigators to Honolulu to explore records regarding current residents of Kalanianaole Highway and to track down residents back to 1961.

Baro's investigators were unable to locate any current or past resident of Kalanianaole Highway who could recall Obama or his family living at the address listed in the Sunday Advertiser announcement.

Baro also sent investigators to the newspaper offices to examine files, but the Advertiser could not confirm who actually placed the ad.

According to Baro's affidavit, Beatrice Arakaki affirmed she was a neighbor of the address listed. She has lived at her current residence of 6075 Kalanianaole Highway from before 1961 to the present.

Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when Obama lived with the Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address was in Waikiki, not on Kalanianaole Highway.

Baro was able to determine the previous owners of the residence at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway – the alleged address of Obama's parents when he was born – were Orland S. and Thelma S. (Young) Lefforge, both of whom are deceased.

Baro's affidavit also documents that the Certification of Live Birth that Obama posted on his campaign website is not the original "long form" birth certificate issued in 1961 by the obstetrician or physician giving birth and the hospital where the baby was born.

Baro's investigators learned that a "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program" established in 1911 during the territorial era and terminated in 1972 during the statehood era allowed Hawaiian residents to apply for a "Late Birth Certificate," called a "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth," which appears identical to the "birth certificate" Obama posted on his campaign website.

"This raised the question in my mind as to whether the 'Certification of Live Birth,' which is the only document that has been produced and as previously stated solely handled by the representatives of factcheck.org outside Obama's campaign, is a certification of a live birth or a late birth," Baro stated in his affidavit.

"I am left with the conclusion that a simple request from Senator Barack Obama to produce the 'long form' (redacted if necessary) would end any speculation or question as to his birthplace," Baro's affidavit continued. "His continued denial to do so is suspect, in my professional opinion."

Baro also pointed out that factcheck.org is funded by the Annenberg Foundation, which "is at the center of the ongoing Obama-Bill Ayers controversy – hardly an unbiased source for information in my view."


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A CITIZEN!!! -- Silly issue, Have you agree that evil is human yet?!???

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You're funny you Americans !

BUSH is an American citizen, I would suggest you to keep

BUSH as President !!

No ???


5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 574306

Bush needs more than a shoe thrown at him...
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Re: UPDATE: OUT OF 100k+ AMERICANS POLLED -- 53% THINK OBAMA IS NOT A CITIZEN!!!
Investigator casts doubt on Obama's birth residence
Neighbor believes family didn't live at address in newspaper announcement


Barack Obama and his mother, Anne Dunham A private investigator has released to WND an affidavit that casts doubt on whether Barack Obama's family lived at the address listed in the published notice of his birth in 1961.

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[link to worldnetdaily.com]
 Quoting: ShowMe State of Mind


Another wnd article?

Surely you can do better than this?

Did you not see their article back on Aug 23, 2008 where they're own "investigation" determined the bc to be authentic?

I know, I know. It's hard to keep so many fabrications straight, even for an online "news"reporting outfit.
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*their own
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it only illustrates how dumbdown and ignorant the american sheeple are. They have no evidence, nothing whatsoever yet they swallow the rumors and hearsays that he is not a citizen. WHat happened to getting all facts first before drawing a conclusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 250177

We have no evidence that he is a "natural born citizen".
His own site admits that he was a British /Kenyan citizen at birth, bestowed by his father's British Kenyan citizenshipp.
Then he was adopted by "single mother" Stanley Anne Dunhama Obama's new husband, Lolo Sotero, renamed Barry Sotero and moved to Indonesia, where he registered for school in Jakarta as a muslim Indonesion citizen.
He has shown no evidence that he was re-naturalized a US citizen after that adoption.
He did however travel to Pakistan in 1981 on an Indonesian passport at a time when travel to Pakistan was constrained for US citizens due to the Russo-Afghanistan war, in which we were arming Osama Bin Laden and his mujahaddin, in a program run by Zbignew Brezinski, Obama's foremost foreign policy advisor during the campaign.
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UPDATE: Out of 83,036 pollersters 50% say that there is merit to the Obama citizenship issue. There are 44% that say there is not and 6% are undecided.
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81,790 Americans polled on AOL...


I think that's your problem right there...
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lol srsly.
online polls like this are NOT credible in the slightest.

you fail big time, op.
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You're funny you Americans !

BUSH is an American citizen, I would suggest you to keep

BUSH as President !!

No ???


5a

Bush needs more than a shoe thrown at him...
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I think that too, but does your fellow citizens ?

And Cheney, what a lovely man, a real native American !

Bush and Cheney are native Americans, frankly you should keep them as you want native citizens as President !
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And Cheney, what a lovely man, a real native American !

Bush and Cheney are native Americans, frankly you should keep them as you want native citizens as President !
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NO THANKS!!!

I want to keep the Constitution in tact, that is my issue. However, the more it comes out of who Mr. Obama wants to help him run this country the more I have to fear.

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yep...good ol boy barky
is not being truthfull
karma's gonna get him
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Re: UPDATE: OUT OF 100k+ AMERICANS POLLED -- 53% THINK OBAMA IS NOT A CITIZEN!!!
gee, wonder which states the poll ran in? shows how easily the American people are misled...but why should we be surprised...these totals most likely include the same 71% of ALL Americans that still believed 5 years later, (and probably still do) that Iraq attacked the WTC in 2001...how gullible we remain...let the media blather on about something for a while...and the longer the lie is spouted indiscriminately on the airwaves and on rw blogs, the more truthful it becomes....
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anyone who quotes wnd is a dolt with no brain.
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What I find amazing is not one person has come forward at all from kindergarten to his college yrs., no friends no teachers no nothing not even family or the doctor and nurses that delivered him.

Not one person saying hey I knew the president elect when he had pimples and was a nerd and picked on look here is a pic from 10th grade etc.

Not one old girlfriend or fling nothing, Then your told how much of a genius he is and yet all his school records are sealed and nothing from the harvard law review was writing by him? Not one student remembers him at columbia even ppl majoring in the same thing graduating the same day dont remember him? Hmmm guess because there must of been like what 80-90 barack hussein obamas going there then I mean who could remember such a common name anyway right.

This guy pops up and out of no where is now president and never did a damn thing in his life to get there.
Look at the great job he did cleaning up his own state of Illinois cant wait to see what he turns a blind eye to with the whole country under his control.
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how did he win the election with the popular vote then, retard? would that not be considered "most"?
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Go back to watching fox news now buddy....

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What I find amazing is not one person has come forward at all from kindergarten to his college yrs., no friends no teachers no nothing not even family or the doctor and nurses that delivered him.

Not one person saying hey I knew the president elect when he had pimples and was a nerd and picked on look here is a pic from 10th grade etc.

Not one old girlfriend or fling nothing, Then your told how much of a genius he is and yet all his school records are sealed and nothing from the harvard law review was writing by him? Not one student remembers him at columbia even ppl majoring in the same thing graduating the same day dont remember him? Hmmm guess because there must of been like what 80-90 barack hussein obamas going there then I mean who could remember such a common name anyway right.

This guy pops up and out of no where is now president and never did a damn thing in his life to get there.
Look at the great job he did cleaning up his own state of Illinois cant wait to see what he turns a blind eye to with the whole country under his control.
 Quoting: Brwnstown

Very true. In fact I know some folks that went to Occidential College at the same time and do not remember him...they would have been a grade apart, but Occidential is a very small college.
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What I find amazing is not one person has come forward at all from kindergarten to his college yrs., no friends no teachers no nothing not even family or the doctor and nurses that delivered him.

Not one person saying hey I knew the president elect when he had pimples and was a nerd and picked on look here is a pic from 10th grade etc.

Not one old girlfriend or fling nothing, Then your told how much of a genius he is and yet all his school records are sealed and nothing from the harvard law review was writing by him? Not one student remembers him at columbia even ppl majoring in the same thing graduating the same day dont remember him? Hmmm guess because there must of been like what 80-90 barack hussein obamas going there then I mean who could remember such a common name anyway right.

This guy pops up and out of no where is now president and never did a damn thing in his life to get there.
Look at the great job he did cleaning up his own state of Illinois cant wait to see what he turns a blind eye to with the whole country under his control.

Very true. In fact I know some folks that went to Occidential College at the same time and do not remember him...they would have been a grade apart, but Occidential is a very small college.
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Its ok in a few months to a yr or so all the same obamabots will be here making up hate threads and conspiracies about him once he gets rolling and they dont get all there free stuff.
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Currently, out of 81,790 Americans polled on AOL, the average consensious is that Obama is not a US Citizen!

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 Quoting: ShowMe State of Mind


Yes, and in the last AOL poll before the election, it was McCain in a 60-39 landslide. These people aren't representative of the general population.
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once again the idiots in the northeast and california are the only ones with their heads in the sand on this issue.
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What I find amazing is not one person has come forward at all from kindergarten to his college yrs., no friends no teachers no nothing not even family or the doctor and nurses that delivered him.

Not one person saying hey I knew the president elect when he had pimples and was a nerd and picked on look here is a pic from 10th grade etc.

Not one old girlfriend or fling nothing, Then your told how much of a genius he is and yet all his school records are sealed and nothing from the harvard law review was writing by him? Not one student remembers him at columbia even ppl majoring in the same thing graduating the same day dont remember him? Hmmm guess because there must of been like what 80-90 barack hussein obamas going there then I mean who could remember such a common name anyway right.

This guy pops up and out of no where is now president and never did a damn thing in his life to get there.
Look at the great job he did cleaning up his own state of Illinois cant wait to see what he turns a blind eye to with the whole country under his control.
 Quoting: Brwnstown


What a crock of sh** your post is. It is nothing but baseless allegations on your part, most likely fed from other crap you've read on the Drudge Report or heard on Faux News at some point (or similar sources).

Here's a suggestion: Read some god**mn newspapers once in awhile to get some real information. Take your pick of any of the national major papers (e.g., The Washington Post), whichever political slant suits your fancy. Just don't be an uninformed fool like Sarah Palin (remember her response to Katie Couric about this?).

Here's a second suggestion: Freshman English 101
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once again the idiots in the northeast and california are the only ones with their heads in the sand on this issue.
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No, the idiots are the ones that take the results from an online aol "poll" seriously.
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5a

Good grief SHOW ME give it up already. Your last hope the conservative SCOTUS doesn't even agree with you! Get a life!
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What I find amazing is not one person has come forward at all from kindergarten to his college yrs., no friends no teachers no nothing not even family or the doctor and nurses that delivered him.

Not one person saying hey I knew the president elect when he had pimples and was a nerd and picked on look here is a pic from 10th grade etc.

Not one old girlfriend or fling nothing, Then your told how much of a genius he is and yet all his school records are sealed and nothing from the harvard law review was writing by him? Not one student remembers him at columbia even ppl majoring in the same thing graduating the same day dont remember him? Hmmm guess because there must of been like what 80-90 barack hussein obamas going there then I mean who could remember such a common name anyway right.

This guy pops up and out of no where is now president and never did a damn thing in his life to get there.
Look at the great job he did cleaning up his own state of Illinois cant wait to see what he turns a blind eye to with the whole country under his control.


What a crock of sh** your post is. It is nothing but baseless allegations on your part, most likely fed from other crap you've read on the Drudge Report or heard on Faux News at some point (or similar sources).

Here's a suggestion: Read some god**mn newspapers once in awhile to get some real information. Take your pick of any of the national major papers (e.g., The Washington Post), whichever political slant suits your fancy. Just don't be an uninformed fool like Sarah Palin (remember her response to Katie Couric about this?).

Here's a second suggestion: Freshman English 101
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Really bullshit huh? So show me what obama loving news channel aired any of his school friends or what paper ran a article on it? Any come show me one real person that played with him when they were kids.

His school sweet heart in high school, or college etc. Any friend other the ayers and the rest of the scum in illinois.

If you won the presidency who many ppl that you grew up with would come forward and talk about little league or school or dating you etc?

And here is a suggestion for you:
Fuck you and your english class, I'm not a writer and never claimed to be, But I bet I can put my foot up your ass.
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anyone who quotes wnd is a dolt with no brain.
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Exactly.

I'm still waiting for an answer from the OP about what WND said in their own article back on Aug 23, 2008. This outfit can't even keep their lies straight.

Here's an excerpt from that article:

"A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there."


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Really bullshit huh? So show me what obama loving news channel aired any of his school friends or what paper ran a article on it? Any come show me one real person that played with him when they were kids.

His school sweet heart in high school, or college etc. Any friend other the ayers and the rest of the scum in illinois.

If you won the presidency who many ppl that you grew up with would come forward and talk about little league or school or dating you etc?

And here is a suggestion for you:
Fuck you and your english class, I'm not a writer and never claimed to be, But I bet I can put my foot up your ass.
 Quoting: Brwnstown


Well, you got one thing right. You definitely are not a writer.
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whatever. i didn't think he was and i still voted for him becaus the system is broken anyway.
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here's a response from the message board on that poll that i agree with...

NOTHING about this has any merit. Anybody who thinks they can prove Obama ineligible to be President must think they're smarter than the GOP, which would have left no stone unturned to prove this BEFORE the election. C'mon!!! Doesn't that seem obvious?
 Quoting: Reece2076


On the contrary, the GOP left every stone unturned. They didn't even try and picking McCain for the nomination proves they weren't trying to win. No mention of all the terrorist and hard core communist connections; no mention of the ambiguities about Obama's background and antecedents; no mention of black racist religious ideologies and gang banger connections; no comment about the antics of ACORN or the Dems who caused, by themselves, the mortgage meltdown in America and not the least protest about his certifiably insane wife.





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