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Violent Verses From he Quran

 
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Violent Verses From he Quran
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The Qur'an:

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

That above was the instruction what muslim believers should do to those whom don't accept their allah.

[link to www.thereligionofpeace.com]
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talk about the versus where Dogs are evil or how Jews are dogs.

Or even better talk about how white people have a little devil in them and its ok too kill them.

islam is a cult that wont go away if we ignore it
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It would favor a christian interpretation of the quran : the vatican orders the muslem to change their holy book, just like they did to the jews for the talmud.

This is happening right now in Turkey, the jesuits are literally ''reinterpreting'' the texts for them !

example : Allah is Jesus

: Mary is the Mother of Allah

: The Quran is the Word of Jesus

: Muhammad is an apostle, not a prophet.

: The sword belongs to God only, not to anybody.

: The umma belongs to the Church.

: The umma does not have special holy sites, only holy people.

: The Spirit of the prophets is the Spirit of the Church, and of Allah.

: The book is a Word, it is more than an average book.
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Both Jesus And Abraham are nothing but excuses to implement ones personal EGO.As all religions are but really hypocritical way out and excuse for people.

But this Mohamed guy takes the cake really.
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Has any one of you ever read the Old Testament?
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My own advise to you before you start bashing other religions, do not take any verse out of context.

This verse was meant for the tribes who were fighting the few Muslims at a terrible wars time, to have no pity against them and fight them, defend them selves.

The bible is full with such verses, if you take them out of context st would seem the Christian GOD doesn't have any pity such:

Exodus, Chapter 34, verses 11-14

You will chase your enemies, and they shall fall by the sword before you. Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight; your enemies shall fall by the sword before you. For I will look on you favorably and make you fruitful, multiply you and confirm My covenant with you. You shall eat the old harvest, and clear out the old because of the new.
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Feh!
The Old testament is one big slaughterfest.
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My own advise to you before you start bashing other religions, do not take any verse out of context.

This verse was meant for the tribes who were fighting the few Muslims at a terrible wars time, to have no pity against them and fight them, defend them selves.

The bible is full with such verses, if you take them out of context st would seem the Christian GOD doesn't have any pity such:

Exodus, Chapter 34, verses 11-14

You will chase your enemies, and they shall fall by the sword before you. Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight; your enemies shall fall by the sword before you. For I will look on you favorably and make you fruitful, multiply you and confirm My covenant with you. You shall eat the old harvest, and clear out the old because of the new.
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Don't tell me I was born a Muslim and lived by Sh. Law OKAY.

So don't tell me about taking the verses out of context, the bottom line of the "whole context" here is we were brought up thought that a big war is coming and Muslim have to kill everyone whom is not with Allah.

Koran says not to kill people but no where does a Koran call non believer people, Muslims are the only people in the Koran and everyone else is a "K" god and therefore we must kill them by the orders of the Koran?...

I know very well what is written in the Koran and it is written that we Muslim shall fight all others in a time to come (which Muslim think the time is here), kill them and rid weed them out so they may not contaminate us.

Plus there is a link up there with more Koran verses I really would like to hear you explain them. If you don't mind I would really like to hear how are you going to explain such blunt threats from the Koran?

Hey my Imam once told me to explain the Koran in that matter is simple everyone whom is not Muslim is not a person is a dog, and we kill dogs they are dirty.

But you must know more than Imams do right? Because you can see all those invisible lines that nobody else can see of Peace in the Koran right?

Hey they keep us women as slaves what else can I say women whom stray from your evil will come back to bite you on your ass one day there is plenty of us here.

Is there any more sin than to dis abolish a women whom gives birth to your children to your little Muslim boys. Soon you wont need the women you've got it all figured out we are just extra mouths to feed and you will be giving birth yourself soon since you are such a perfect creation a man.

You are all so intelligent.
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Readings from the Book of Joshua

Jos 8:1 And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear not, neither be thou dismayed: take all the people of war with thee, and arise, go up to Ai: see, I have given into thy hand the king of Ai, and his people, and his city, and his land:

Jos 8:2 And thou shalt do to Ai and her king as thou didst unto Jericho and her king: only the spoil thereof, and the cattle thereof, shall ye take for a prey unto yourselves: lay thee an ambush for the city behind it.

Jos 8:3 So Joshua arose, and all the people of war, to go up against Ai: and Joshua chose out thirty thousand mighty men of valour, and sent them away by night.

Jos 8:4 And he commanded them, saying, Behold, ye shall lie in wait against the city, [even] behind the city: go not very far from the city, but be ye all ready:

Jos 8:5 And I, and all the people that [are] with me, will approach unto the city: and it shall come to pass, when they come out against us, as at the first, that we will flee before them,

Jos 8:6 (For they will come out after us) till we have drawn them from the city; for they will say, They flee before us, as at the first: therefore we will flee before them.

Jos 8:7 Then ye shall rise up from the ambush, and seize upon the city: for the LORD your God will deliver it into your hand.

Jos 8:8 And it shall be, when ye have taken the city, [that] ye shall set the city on fire: according to the commandment of the LORD shall ye do. See, I have commanded you.

Jos 8:9 Joshua therefore sent them forth: and they went to lie in ambush, and abode between Bethel and Ai, on the west side of Ai: but Joshua lodged that night among the people.

Jos 8:10 And Joshua rose up early in the morning, and numbered the people, and went up, he and the elders of Israel, before the people to Ai.

Jos 8:11 And all the people, [even the people] of war that [were] with him, went up, and drew nigh, and came before the city, and pitched on the north side of Ai: now [there was] a valley between them and Ai.

Jos 8:12 And he took about five thousand men, and set them to lie in ambush between Bethel and Ai, on the west side of the city.

Jos 8:13 And when they had set the people, [even] all the host that [was] on the north of the city, and their liers in wait on the west of the city, Joshua went that night into the midst of the valley.

Jos 8:14 And it came to pass, when the king of Ai saw [it], that they hasted and rose up early, and the men of the city went out against Israel to battle, he and all his people, at a time appointed, before the plain; but he wist not that [there were] liers in ambush against him behind the city.

Jos 8:15 And Joshua and all Israel made as if they were beaten before them, and fled by the way of the wilderness.

Jos 8:16 And all the people that [were] in Ai were called together to pursue after them: and they pursued after Joshua, and were drawn away from the city.

Jos 8:17 And there was not a man left in Ai or Bethel, that went not out after Israel: and they left the city open, and pursued after Israel.

Jos 8:18 And the LORD said unto Joshua, Stretch out the spear that [is] in thy hand toward Ai; for I will give it into thine hand. And Joshua stretched out the spear that [he had] in his hand toward the city.

Jos 8:19 And the ambush arose quickly out of their place, and they ran as soon as he had stretched out his hand: and they entered into the city, and took it, and hasted and set the city on fire.

Jos 8:20 And when the men of Ai looked behind them, they saw, and, behold, the smoke of the city ascended up to heaven, and they had no power to flee this way or that way: and the people that fled to the wilderness turned back upon the pursuers.

Jos 8:21 And when Joshua and all Israel saw that the ambush had taken the city, and that the smoke of the city ascended, then they turned again, and slew the men of Ai.

Jos 8:22 And the other issued out of the city against them; so they were in the midst of Israel, some on this side, and some on that side: and they smote them, so that they let none of them remain or escape.

Jos 8:23 And the king of Ai they took alive, and brought him to Joshua.

Jos 8:24 And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword.

Jos 8:25 And [so] it was, [that] all that fell that day, both of men and women, [were] twelve thousand, [even] all the men of Ai.

Jos 8:26 For Joshua drew not his hand back, wherewith he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai.

Jos 8:27 Only the cattle and the spoil of that city Israel took for a prey unto themselves, according unto the word of the LORD which he commanded Joshua.

Jos 8:28 And Joshua burnt Ai, and made it an heap for ever, [even] a desolation unto this day.

Jos 8:29 And the king of Ai he hanged on a tree until eventide: and as soon as the sun was down, Joshua commanded that they should take his carcase down from the tree, and cast it at the entering of the gate of the city, and raise thereon a great heap of stones, [that remaineth] unto this day.

Jos 8:30 Then Joshua built an altar unto the LORD God of Israel in mount Ebal,

Jos 8:31 As Moses the servant of the LORD commanded the children of Israel, as it is written in the book of the law of Moses, an altar of whole stones, over which no man hath lift up [any] iron: and they offered thereon burnt offerings unto the LORD, and sacrificed peace offerings.

Jos 8:32 And he wrote there upon the stones a copy of the law of Moses, which he wrote in the presence of the children of Israel.

Jos 8:33 And all Israel, and their elders, and officers, and their judges, stood on this side the ark and on that side before the priests the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, as well the stranger, as he that was born among them; half of them over against mount Gerizim, and half of them over against mount Ebal; as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.

Jos 8:34 And afterward he read all the words of the law, the blessings and cursings, according to all that is written in the book of the law.

Jos 8:35 There was not a word of all that Moses commanded, which Joshua read not before all the congregation of Israel, with the women, and the little ones, and the strangers that were conversant among them.


Praise be to Gawd
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buddhists don´t read bible or quran bacause they get bad karma by doing so.
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Here you go.


When you get done bashing the Quran for violence, I have several hundred from your Bible to digest:



[link to skepticsannotatedbible.com]
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And your point is? The bible is full of murder and hate also. It just shows you how bad and corrupt organized religions is.
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Bible or qoran, lets see well I don't see Christians and Catholics massive being groomed for another crusade do you? I see Muslim however being groomed to kill non Muslims daily first hand, example Mujaheddin Iranian Camp in Bosnia 1st hand by the way, I only speak of what I see my self.

Now here is the big picture point I don't care what you believe in I just don't as long as you are loving,caring peaceful and understanding and never VIOLENT. If you are any of those which Muslims statistical are more so than any other religion except Satanism than I have a problem with you got it.
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If you are any of those which Muslims statistical are more so than any other religion except Satanism[...]
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Linky, you stinky.
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The Qur'an:

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

That above was the instruction what muslim believers should do to those whom don't accept their allah.

[link to www.thereligionofpeace.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550742


Good try Jew.

That verse is specific to those who drove them out of their own lands. Meaning the Jews of Israel who drove them out of their lands in the middle east.

Also the British drove them out.

For example: South America will never be blowed up by them, unless they join the war against Arabs.

Stop trying to fool the stupid kids of this forum. I am on you, and will correct every statement the Jews are trying to sell wrong in here.
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Bible or qoran, lets see well I don't see Christians and Catholics massive being groomed for another crusade do you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550742

Really? Many Christian denominations can't wait to see Israel get into a massive war with everyone in the Middle East so their God can come and take them away. They're all too happy to make the world go to hell in a handbasket if they don't have to be around for it.
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Has anyone ever studied ancinet greek religion? Is anyone here that claims to be Native American ever been told the hand me down stories or even read about our traditions and stories?

Does not anyone seem a commonality in all the major world religions?


Hrmm

When you stand before the One who is all and you say is your name God and the creator says yeah, Then your friend leans over and says boy am I glad that I quit following allah and learned about your God.....Then the creator says but I am he too....then they look at each other oopps were fucked

Ever heard about you cant serve two masters for you will love the one and hate the other? In the above you forsaked him to go worship the one you have forsaken.

Exodus Chpt 6 By the name jehovah I was not known to them. (So he appeared to people with different names in order to give instrutions to guide them to spirituality)
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Has anyone ever studied ancinet greek religion? Is anyone here that claims to be Native American ever been told the hand me down stories or even read about our traditions and stories?

Does not anyone seem a commonality in all the major world religions?


Hrmm

When you stand before the One who is all and you say is your name God and the creator says yeah, Then your friend leans over and says boy am I glad that I quit following allah and learned about your God.....Then the creator says but I am he too....then they look at each other oopps were fucked

Ever heard about you cant serve two masters for you will love the one and hate the other? In the above you forsaked him to go worship the one you have forsaken.

Exodus Chpt 6 By the name jehovah I was not known to them. (So he appeared to people with different names in order to give instrutions to guide them to spirituality)
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/bump bump
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The Qur'an:

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

That above was the instruction what muslim believers should do to those whom don't accept their allah.

[link to www.thereligionofpeace.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550742

I am a muslim, and your threat makes me laugh

Check your bible and see what is more violent:

Ezekiel 9:6 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women . . . "

Isaiah 13:16 "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."

Deuteronomy 13:15 "Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly . . . "

Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "

Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."

Deut 21:10-12 "When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; "

Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."

Deut 21:21 "And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die . . . "
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The Qur'an:

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

That above was the instruction what muslim believers should do to those whom don't accept their allah.

[link to www.thereligionofpeace.com]

I am a muslim, and your threat makes me laugh

Check your bible and see what is more violent:

Ezekiel 9:6 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women . . . "

Isaiah 13:16 "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."

Deuteronomy 13:15 "Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly . . . "

Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "

Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."

Deut 21:10-12 "When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; "

Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."

Deut 21:21 "And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die . . . "
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 581049



Dear brother I am not from no religion but I wrote the above about the mounting two horses because many do not see that it is just one horse at the end and all roads lead to the one if we allow it. The sword is representive of the mouth speaking truth the tounge is a sword. Just like the quran says saly the flesh means to speak truth and wheat out falseties it means to slay the perception of man so the spirit can manifest itself.

Bless you all
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And your point is? The bible is full of murder and hate also. It just shows you how bad and corrupt organized religions is.
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And so the bible did teach you something of great importance.





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