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Use this opportunity to pick up stuff you need for preps like clothes, boots, camping gear, whatever. Run the mutherfucking cards up as the way things are looking it won't matter, the shit is fixin to hit the proverbial fan.

Do it.

Now.






Bargain-Hunting Shoppers Turn Up Noses at Post-Christmas Sales



By Lauren Coleman-Lochner

Dec. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Mariel DeBernard was ready to be wowed by the post-Christmas sales when she turned up at the Fashion Centre at Pentagon City mall in Arlington, Virginia. It wasn’t to be.

“Normally I’d be loaded down with things, but there just aren’t that many deals, particularly for clothing,” DeBernard, a 40-year-old homemaker, said yesterday. “For most things, the prices aren’t that different than before Christmas.”

Retailers, which started offering discounts of 50 percent or more weeks ago, had been counting on post-Christmas sales to help rescue what will probably be the worst holiday season in four decades. That’s not going to happen, said Burt Flickinger, managing director of Strategic Resource Group, a retail-industry consulting firm in New York.

“This week isn’t going to do it,” Flickinger said in a Bloomberg Television interview. “Consumers are more cash- and credit-constrained than ever before. After a 25-year spending tsunami, they’ve shifted from spending to savings.”

Customer traffic at malls run by Taubman Centers Inc. was “light” early yesterday and picked up in the afternoon, said spokeswoman Karen Mac Donald. Taubman owns or manages 24 shopping centers in 11 states.

Advertising post-Christmas sales before the holiday, as retailers did this year, “really smacks a little bit of desperation,” said Patricia Edwards, a retail analyst and the founder of Seattle-based Storehouse Partners LLC.

Retailers count on the holiday season for as much as 35 percent of annual sales. They’re now scrambling for business as consumers retrench to cope with shrinking home and stock values, tightening credit and the highest unemployment rate in 15 years.

Spending Drop

Discounts of 70 percent off or more by Macy’s Inc., AnnTaylor Stores Inc. and other retailers failed to prevent a spending drop of as much as 4 percent during the last two months of 2008, according to data from SpendingPulse, owned by MasterCard Advisors. Including fuel, sales tumbled as much as 8 percent.

That’s the steepest drop since it started tracking the data in 2002, said Michael McNamara, MasterCard Advisors vice president of research and analysis. He estimates sales, excluding autos and gasoline, fell 2 percent to 4 percent from Nov. 1 to Dec. 24.

That projection follows forecasts of falling sales from industry trade groups. Sales at stores open at least a year may drop as much as 2 percent in November and December, the International Council of Shopping Centers said Dec. 23. That would be the steepest decline since at least 1969.

Too Much Inventory

“It is the worst kind of picture,” Michael Niemira, chief economist for New York-based ICSC, said in a Bloomberg TV interview.

Retailers still have too much inventory, said Edwards.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc., which said yesterday it would start selling Apple Inc.’s iPhone on Dec. 28, is one of the country’s few retailers still boosting sales. The discounter is one of two companies on the 30-member Dow Jones Industrial Average with shares gaining this year.

Meg McGuire, a county health inspector in Eden, North Carolina, spent a third of the $1,200 she and her husband had budgeted for the holiday on bicycles, toys and other discounted items at Wal-Mart on Black Friday, as the day after the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday in November is known.

The couple decided to not buy each other Christmas gifts for the first time in their 11 years of marriage.

“A lot of people are concerned about their jobs,” said McGuire, 30.

More than a dozen retailers, including electronics chain Circuit City Stores Inc., have sought bankruptcy protection this year as the credit squeeze and the U.S. recession drained sales. The holiday results indicate possible consolidation and further bankruptcy filings, said Gilbert Harrison, chief executive officer of retail advisory firm Financo Inc.

“It’s been difficult, much more difficult than anyone expected,” Harrison said in a Bloomberg Television interview from West Palm Beach, Florida.

To contact the reporter on this story: Lauren Coleman-Lochner in New York at [email protected].
Last Updated: December 27, 2008 00:01 EST
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Hey my friend! Speaking of shopping,I was thinking of you when I saw todays special on Woot.com

[link to www.woot.com]
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hey bro!
I have 15 acres of prime land now in the hills near water.
Worked out deals with the local jandarm commandante for firearms. Now just got to build the home and shelter.
Pm your an email addy ad I will send you pics.

Hopefully i will get it all done in time.
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Hey my friend! Speaking of shopping,I was thinking of you when I saw todays special on Woot.com

[link to www.woot.com]
 Quoting: mathetes


Cool bro I do need some night vision stuff and a rangefinder. I can maybe spring for a rangefinder soon, the night vision I want is a Gen III unit and is over 2000 bucks, oops....lol....
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hey bro!
I have 15 acres of prime land now in the hills near water.
Worked out deals with the local jandarm commandante for firearms. Now just got to build the home and shelter.
Pm your an email addy ad I will send you pics.

Hopefully i will get it all done in time.
 Quoting: Dervish


COOL man what state or is it not in the states??? PM sent!!!!
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5a I BELIEVE ! I BELIEVE !
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They must have some sort of credit card potency sensor or something because every time I get near a store the doors slam shut and lock chuckle
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The only thing I bought for Christmas is parts for my truck, and some booze.
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The only thing I bought for Christmas is parts for my truck, and some booze.
 Quoting: Evil Twin


Hey. Is it a doom truck??? LMAO.....

I bought that Cabelas tumbler yesterday-on backorder for a week. I'll let ya know how it works out.....

BTW I turned someones dad on to reloading yesterday. Sent all the links, he's buying the Lee Challenger kit today.

I found the Lee Turrent 4 hole press onsale and available online for 85 bucks. Powder and primer feeder are backordered everywhere. I am gonna spring for that soon and load up some .45acp. Read great reviews on that press everywhere.....


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I think we still have a couple more years to "prep"
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The only thing I bought for Christmas is parts for my truck, and some booze.


Hey. Is it a doom truck??? LMAO.....

I bought that Cabelas tumbler yesterday-on backorder for a week. I'll let ya know how it works out.....

BTW I turned someones dad on to reloading yesterday. Sent all the links, he's buying the Lee Challenger kit today.

I found the Lee Turrent 4 hole press onsale and available online for 85 bucks. Powder and primer feeder are backordered everywhere. I am gonna spring for that soon and load up some .45acp. Read great reviews on that press everywhere.....


[link to www.realguns.com]
 Quoting: Omega

Well, the truck is pretty much brand new, mechanically, now. It's got 140,000 miles on it, but should easily last another 140,000. I pulled the motor last weekend and installed new main bearings and rod bearings, front and rear main oil seals, oil pan gasket, and harmonic balancer. Just finished it last night and took it for a test drive.

Nice price on that press! I'm pretty sure the powder measure you have now can be converted to work with that one...might want to look at the directions that came with it.
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The only thing I bought for Christmas is parts for my truck, and some booze.


Hey. Is it a doom truck??? LMAO.....

I bought that Cabelas tumbler yesterday-on backorder for a week. I'll let ya know how it works out.....

BTW I turned someones dad on to reloading yesterday. Sent all the links, he's buying the Lee Challenger kit today.

I found the Lee Turrent 4 hole press onsale and available online for 85 bucks. Powder and primer feeder are backordered everywhere. I am gonna spring for that soon and load up some .45acp. Read great reviews on that press everywhere.....


[link to www.realguns.com]

Well, the truck is pretty much brand new, mechanically, now. It's got 140,000 miles on it, but should easily last another 140,000. I pulled the motor last weekend and installed new main bearings and rod bearings, front and rear main oil seals, oil pan gasket, and harmonic balancer. Just finished it last night and took it for a test drive.

Nice price on that press! I'm pretty sure the powder measure you have now can be converted to work with that one...might want to look at the directions that came with it.
 Quoting: Evil Twin


Nice job on the truck!!! Thats allota work man...yeah I can convert that powder measure, but it does not throw a charge nearly as consistent as the Lee Auto-Disk PRO Powder measure. In fact when I loaded that .44mag at the end of the run it was about .5 grains light.......YMMV......

But its been allota fun. My new hobby. ;>)
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Hey my friend! Speaking of shopping,I was thinking of you when I saw todays special on Woot.com

[link to www.woot.com]


Cool bro I do need some night vision stuff and a rangefinder. I can maybe spring for a rangefinder soon, the night vision I want is a Gen III unit and is over 2000 bucks, oops....lol....
 Quoting: Omega


Where did you find that price if you don't mind?
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Nice job on the truck!!! Thats allota work man...yeah I can convert that powder measure, but it does not throw a charge nearly as consistent as the Lee Auto-Disk PRO Powder measure. In fact when I loaded that .44mag at the end of the run it was about .5 grains light.......YMMV......

But its been allota fun. My new hobby. ;>)
 Quoting: Omega

Thanks man, it was no fun at all, lol!

My measure has gotten more consistent with use...it does take some break in time...that, and consistent technique. That disk measure is probably a lot more mechanically sound, and better suited to turret use.
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Looking for the best price on anything, just go to "PriceGrabber.com" and type in what you are looking for.
The site searches for the best deal on the net.

There is another one too. "FreeShipping.com"
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Hey my friend! Speaking of shopping,I was thinking of you when I saw todays special on Woot.com

[link to www.woot.com]


Cool bro I do need some night vision stuff and a rangefinder. I can maybe spring for a rangefinder soon, the night vision I want is a Gen III unit and is over 2000 bucks, oops....lol....


Where did you find that price if you don't mind?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 580536


Started here-a little cheaper than 2 grand actually. Second one in the list I want.....


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most stuff at 70% off is still 30% too high,.
It'll cost you $ to get rid of it.





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