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Why do entertainers keep selling their souls? | |
| ...long after fame and fortune User ID: 581075  China12/28/2008 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 581088  United States12/28/2008 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| FallenAwaken User ID: 581087  Switzerland12/28/2008 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WRONG SIDE..As usual...Got it backwards.. I notice this a lot..Maybe because I used to think that way also...Until I discovered the TRUTH.. And by the way...Anne Rice was TURNED and took up with THEM.. AGAIN...Many do not recognize the true EVIL...Not at all... And that is why in the end they will fool and trap so MANY... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 581075 China12/28/2008 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WRONG SIDE..As usual...Got it backwards.. Quoting: FallenAwaken 581087I notice this a lot..Maybe because I used to think that way also...Until I discovered the TRUTH.. And by the way...Anne Rice was TURNED and took up with THEM.. AGAIN...Many do not recognize the true EVIL...Not at all... And that is why in the end they will fool and trap so MANY... You've only given a hint of what you're saying. Any links? Threads? More information? Thanks.  |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 581075 China12/28/2008 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WRONG SIDE..As usual...Got it backwards.. Quoting: FallenAwaken 581087I notice this a lot..Maybe because I used to think that way also...Until I discovered the TRUTH.. And by the way...Anne Rice was TURNED and took up with THEM.. AGAIN...Many do not recognize the true EVIL...Not at all... And that is why in the end they will fool and trap so MANY... What you're saying sounds interesting. Do you have any websites, threads, more information about what you're saying? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 581075 China12/28/2008 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 581075 China12/28/2008 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| The Lizard Of Id User ID: 575952 United States12/28/2008 05:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, and check some of the charitys......like this one: [link to www.lucistrust.org] and tell me they give a fuck about karma. ;D |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 581075 China12/28/2008 05:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They could be MKUltra mind programmed an not realize the evil their spreading. Look at their left eye. Like Jennifer Anniston for instance. Quoting: The Lizard Of Id 575952Oh, and check some of the charitys......like this one: [link to www.lucistrust.org] and tell me they give a fuck about karma. ;D What kind of charity is lucis trust? |
| The Lizard Of Id User ID: 575952 United States12/28/2008 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| TimOsman User ID: 561879  United Kingdom12/28/2008 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In life, we all cut out a niche for ourselves, to find the best contentment we can. Depending on our personalities and upbringing (nurture / nature) we pick our position. Some people seek fame and fortune, at any cost, others are happy with fortune and respect, others fortune and relative anonymity. When the above, get what they want, they still have insecurities (it could all end tomorrow). Most mask these insecurities, by allowing their ego to run away, that is why they are often a**holes. They are used and controlled by those who want fortune and relative anonymity, until they overstep the line (Dan Rather, Elliot Spitzer - and in the UK Jonathan Ross). Why these people don't sell-out is quite simple. If they have a "Road to Damascus" experience (unlikely), they are not going to be given a platform by the wicked, to tear down the edifice. Those that do upset the apple cart, come to an untimely end John Lennon, JFK to name but two of the highest profiles. The political wilderness can be just effective. |
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ListenUp  User ID: 554626 United States12/28/2008 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many NUDE seens have you seen at the movies....... these women have shold their SOUL for MONEY... Most of the time is it uncalled for. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 581075 China12/28/2008 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only difference in a prostitue and a fameous Actress doing Nude Shots is the PRICE..... and the WAY they ARRIVE to work. Quoting: ListenUpHow many NUDE seens have you seen at the movies....... these women have shold their SOUL for MONEY... Most of the time is it uncalled for. Ludicrous. Nudity is natural and beautiful. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 537205 United States12/28/2008 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 360729 United States12/28/2008 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe it's not that they believe they do good as much as it's about promoting what benefits you the most. Maybe all this good/evil is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 537205And the fact that when you do actually do something for the people, most still think you are full of it, and are asses to boot. The yin yang of my thought pattern for the institute. Something I think we all deal with on certain levels. "I do believe in God and the minority out there that truly do as well? But then at other times, I'm like fuck the sheep, I'm poor for trying to make a difference and should just screw them, so they like me and bow down at the money I ripped them off of." Isn't that what's really going on? Sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you don't?  |
| ListenUp User ID: 554626 United States12/28/2008 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 581075 China12/28/2008 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ludicrous. Nudity is natural and beautiful. Quoting: ListenUpYea right... in the movies it is done to SELL and MAKE MONEY.... NOT BEAUTY... It would be FREE if it was for the ART of it... YES? You're saying that people don't even have the right to do what they want with their own bodies. That's scary. I'm thinking you must be religious? Can you show me a quote from your religious beliefs that actually backs up what you're saying? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 581075 China12/28/2008 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe it's not that they believe they do good as much as it's about promoting what benefits you the most. Maybe all this good/evil is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 360729And the fact that when you do actually do something for the people, most still think you are full of it, and are asses to boot. The yin yang of my thought pattern for the institute. Something I think we all deal with on certain levels. "I do believe in God and the minority out there that truly do as well? But then at other times, I'm like fuck the sheep, I'm poor for trying to make a difference and should just screw them, so they like me and bow down at the money I ripped them off of." Isn't that what's really going on? Sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you don't? We were all sheep before we became "enlightened." Helping others is helping yourself. |
| anonymous User ID: 581146 United States12/28/2008 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Illuminati simply will not allow you to become very popular unless you sell your soul to them and do their bidding, imho. Not for long at least. It's understandable why people will sell their souls and do TPTB's bidding when they're "on they're way up", young, stupid, and/or ignorant. Quoting: ...long after fame and fortune 581075But, why would people like George Lucas and Oliver Stone continue to produce stuff that's TOTALLY WICKED illuminati propaganda after they're already very rich and famous? "Star Wars: Clone Wars" and "W" are example of what I'm talking about. 100% wicked illuminati programming. What could these guys be getting that makes producing this garbage worth it? Both of these guys seem upright and really GOOD in interviews, at least to me. Look at what Stone did with JFK. Then again, "Natural Born Killers" was some of the most evil stuff ever put out there. Howard Stern's another one. His act is evil enough but he mercilessly ridicules anyone who doesn't believe in the official 9/11 story. I thought he went to Sirius radio to get away from censorship but he's obviously censoring himself because there's no way anyone as smart him and his group could believe the official 9/11 story. I believe this could be a little different situation though. Someone like Stern could have been threatened by very high powers about his stance on issues like 9/11. Why are they still selling their souls all these years after they've become rich and famous? I've heard this explanation put forward (which makes sense to me): The Illuminati believe in matching the evil they do with good. Apparently it's something like balancing good karma and bad karma. This is why wicked robber barons give millions of dollars to charity. They know they're doing tons of evil and accruing bad karma but they try to balance that evil by doing an equal amount of righteous acts. Has anyone heard this before? What do you think about it? I think it's an interesting theory but I don't think it really works because doing harm to others weighs down your soul too much. It's not that easy to clear bad karma, imho. yawn .Jesus redeems souls from satan, every day. God already knows all the errors that one has made in thier life .but God wants you to return to him, Jesus saves our souls from hell .thus we come into his light out of darkness..step away from the occult for good, and Go back to your True "God" thru Jesus.. Jesus is the Lord Of Lords And the The King Of Kings. Never forget it.. |
| ListenUp User ID: 554626 United States12/28/2008 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe it's not that they believe they do good as much as it's about promoting what benefits you the most. Maybe all this good/evil is bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 360729And the fact that when you do actually do something for the people, most still think you are full of it, and are asses to boot. The yin yang of my thought pattern for the institute. Something I think we all deal with on certain levels. "I do believe in God and the minority out there that truly do as well? But then at other times, I'm like fuck the sheep, I'm poor for trying to make a difference and should just screw them, so they like me and bow down at the money I ripped them off of." Isn't that what's really going on? Sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you don't? Hi Yoda, IF ALL PEOPLE were equal... not in money.. but in MIND.. and the only difference was the LIFE CHOICES that one makes... at the moment of your DEATH... was it ALL WORTH IT.. to make your life a sacrifice for them? |
| ListenUp User ID: 554626 United States12/28/2008 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ludicrous. Nudity is natural and beautiful. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 581075Yea right... in the movies it is done to SELL and MAKE MONEY.... NOT BEAUTY... It would be FREE if it was for the ART of it... YES? You're saying that people don't even have the right to do what they want with their own bodies. That's scary. I'm thinking you must be religious? Can you show me a quote from your religious beliefs that actually backs up what you're saying? No ... I am just CALLING a spade a spade. There are many forms of Prostitution... YES.. you can if you wish. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 360729 United States12/28/2008 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Illuminati conspiracy theorists want to make everything black and white but often it's lots of grey and even the content providers don't really know what's going on. If you are working on project, movie, music, film, even politics for example and set off to do good, what happens when somebody wants to help you but maybe they are not as pure as snow? Happens all the time. They are dealing with their own lives and doing what they think is best for their family and employees. It's not reality to think that all entertainers set out to make it for the illuminati but I'm sure there are some that are that way. But what sells in this world? Sex, drugs, rock n roll, violence, horror. There's no denying it. How does when argue against doing that as a newcomer or even a legend today in the entertainment business where you need outside funding/partnerships/major support? They to often don't. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 581075 China12/28/2008 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ludicrous. Nudity is natural and beautiful. Quoting: ListenUpYea right... in the movies it is done to SELL and MAKE MONEY.... NOT BEAUTY... It would be FREE if it was for the ART of it... YES? You're saying that people don't even have the right to do what they want with their own bodies. That's scary. I'm thinking you must be religious? Can you show me a quote from your religious beliefs that actually backs up what you're saying? No ... I am just CALLING a spade a spade. There are many forms of Prostitution... YES.. you can if you wish. What you're saying is ridiculous, imho. I guess you think that beauty contests with cash prizes involve prostitution? How about beauty contests at nudist camps? If someone wanted to pay me a lot of money to see my naked body I'd consider it. If there's no touching involved, it's not in the same ballpark as prostitution. They're nowhere close! When touching gets involved, that's different. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 581075 China12/28/2008 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its the quiet war that Bill Cooper wrote of. Not in your face but silently always there for all creators of content. And more so the bigger the project, ala Hollywood. It's not often I think that the Illuminati is in ones face telling the next movie to make but subtle through business heads, lobbying groups, distributors, money rules, mafia, cults, intelligence agencies in the biz, on an on it goes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 360729Illuminati conspiracy theorists want to make everything black and white but often it's lots of grey and even the content providers don't really know what's going on. If you are working on project, movie, music, film, even politics for example and set off to do good, what happens when somebody wants to help you but maybe they are not as pure as snow? Happens all the time. They are dealing with their own lives and doing what they think is best for their family and employees. It's not reality to think that all entertainers set out to make it for the illuminati but I'm sure there are some that are that way. But what sells in this world? Sex, drugs, rock n roll, violence, horror. There's no denying it. How does when argue against doing that as a newcomer or even a legend today in the entertainment business where you need outside funding/partnerships/major support? They to often don't. I understand this. That's why specifically mentioned George Lucas, Oliver Stone, and Howard Stern. These are people who don't need to sell out. They could work independently. Lucas and Stern are totally independent and free to do what they like but as far as I can see, they're producing illuminati programming... Why do these types of people continue on the path of selling out? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 360729 United States12/28/2008 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe it's not that they believe they do good as much as it's about promoting what benefits you the most. Maybe all this good/evil is bullshit. Quoting: ListenUpAnd the fact that when you do actually do something for the people, most still think you are full of it, and are asses to boot. The yin yang of my thought pattern for the institute. Something I think we all deal with on certain levels. "I do believe in God and the minority out there that truly do as well? But then at other times, I'm like fuck the sheep, I'm poor for trying to make a difference and should just screw them, so they like me and bow down at the money I ripped them off of." Isn't that what's really going on? Sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you don't? Hi Yoda, IF ALL PEOPLE were equal... not in money.. but in MIND.. and the only difference was the LIFE CHOICES that one makes... at the moment of your DEATH... was it ALL WORTH IT.. to make your life a sacrifice for them? I'm going to have to think about this! I think yes it would but then maybe not, if we are all equal of mind, the only ones worth sacrificing for are the ones that tried to make the right life decisions? I'll always have sympathy for the suffering but often I feel it's to much for me to take on. Only God can deal with it? Should we all give up our lives to save one person who's life is hopeless? How do we choose who and what to save? If you have a home in this world and another doesn't, what does that say? But yet I don't think all people are equal in MIND. The life choices of most of us show this to be true and the conversations show this to be true. Haha. I guess I'm grappling with it all. I've given some sacrifices and also been greedy. Haven't we all? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 400833 United States12/28/2008 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at the "celebs" who are no doubt famous, probably rich, and have a life we mortals on dream about... yet they have very little if any discernible talent of any kind! You wonder how they got there? You can bet it was a swap. Their soul and fame, fortune, wealth, plenty for their lifetime - be it 50 or 60 or 70 years. However at the end of that lifetime, you know damned good and well where they are going |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 360729 United States12/28/2008 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its the quiet war that Bill Cooper wrote of. Not in your face but silently always there for all creators of content. And more so the bigger the project, ala Hollywood. It's not often I think that the Illuminati is in ones face telling the next movie to make but subtle through business heads, lobbying groups, distributors, money rules, mafia, cults, intelligence agencies in the biz, on an on it goes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 581075Illuminati conspiracy theorists want to make everything black and white but often it's lots of grey and even the content providers don't really know what's going on. If you are working on project, movie, music, film, even politics for example and set off to do good, what happens when somebody wants to help you but maybe they are not as pure as snow? Happens all the time. They are dealing with their own lives and doing what they think is best for their family and employees. It's not reality to think that all entertainers set out to make it for the illuminati but I'm sure there are some that are that way. But what sells in this world? Sex, drugs, rock n roll, violence, horror. There's no denying it. How does when argue against doing that as a newcomer or even a legend today in the entertainment business where you need outside funding/partnerships/major support? They to often don't. I understand this. That's why specifically mentioned George Lucas, Oliver Stone, and Howard Stern. These are people who don't need to sell out. They could work independently. Lucas and Stern are totally independent and free to do what they like but as far as I can see, they're producing illuminati programming... Why do these types of people continue on the path of selling out? I don't know enough about Lucas but Stern I think buys what he speaks about. He's also got a bit of ego, like he had to have to get where he is at. It's who he is but I think he has matured a bit. I like Howard and think he's more open to stuff than you might think. He's like most of us fed up but to laugh at the meatheads of life. It's easy to discount lots of things like 911 conspiracies without knowing that most of them are likely fronted by the same people likely behind it. He's also not totally naive to the world. When you go out there on something that big, there's a big hit on you that comes back again and again, your backers suddenly disappear. Folks with no sway always expect those with it, to give it all up for something that will likely go nowhere because it is a circus sideshow run on both and every side by the secret rulers that will never let you tell the real truth of the world without being savagely mauled. First they have to believe it, then they have to want to confront it, being brave enough to confront it and risk peace and security of their and their families lives. |
