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2008 had the least solar activity since 1900 global cooling expected!

 
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2008 had the least solar activity since 1900 global cooling expected!
So maybe now we should take a stand and stop this man made global crap once and for all before these nut jobs start taxing you for breathing c02.


Wednesday, December 31, 2008
2008 Ends Spotless and with 266 Spotless Days, the #2 Least Active Year Since 1900, Portends Cooling

By Joseph D’Aleo CCM, AMS Fellow

2008 will be coming to a close with yet another spotless days according to the latest solar image.

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This will bring the total number of sunspotless days this month to 28 and for the year to 266, clearly enough to make 2008, the second least active solar year since 1900.

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The total number of spotless days this spolar minimum is now at around 510 days since the last maximum. The earliest the minimum of the sunspot cycles can be is July 2008, which would make the cycle length 12 years 3 months, longest since cycle 9 in 1848. If the sun stays quiet for a few more months we will rival the early 1800s, the Dalton Minimum which fits with the 213 year cycle which begin with the solar minimum in the late 1790s.

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Long cycles are cold and short ones like the ones in the 1980s and 1990s are warm as this analysis by Friis-Christensen in 1991 showed clearly.

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In reply to the arguments made that the temperatures after 1990 no longer agreed with solar length, I point out that it was around 1990 when a major global station dropout (many rural) began which led to an exaggeration of the warming in the global temperature data bases. Also the length from max to max of 21 to 22 was 9.7 years and cycle 22 length min to min 9.8 years, both very short suggesting warm temperatures in the 1990s. The interval of cycle 22 max to cycle 23 max centered in the mid 1990s began to increase at 10.7 years and the min to min length of cycle 23 is now at least 12.3 years.

With the Wigley suggested lag of sun to temperatures of 5 years and Landscheidt suggested 8 years, a leveling of should have been favored around 2000-2003 and cooling should be showing up now. Looking ahead, put that together with the flip of the PDO in the Pacific to cold and you have alarming signals that this cooling of the last 7 years will continue and accelerate.
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Re: 2008 had the least solar activity since 1900 global cooling expected!
Send this to the UN and Al Gore stop the bull shit now! None of the MANMADE global warming models have the sun as a factor. Gee I wonder why that is.
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Re: 2008 had the least solar activity since 1900 global cooling expected!
Environment minister Sammy Wilson: I still think man-made climate change is a con

Wednesday, 31 December 2008
Environment Minister and keen motorcyclist Sammy Wilson



Spending billions on trying to reduce carbon emissions is one giant con that is depriving third world countries of vital funds to tackle famine, HIV and other diseases, Sammy Wilson said.

The DUP minister has been heavily criticised by environmentalists for claiming that ongoing climatic shifts are down to nature and not mankind.

But while acknowledging his views on global warming may not be popular, the East Antrim MP said he was not prepared to be bullied by eco fundamentalists.

“I’ll not be stopped saying what I believe needs to be said about climate change,” he said.

"Most of the people who shout about climate change have not read one article about it

“I think in 20 years’ time we will look back at this whole climate change debate and ask ourselves how on earth were we ever conned into spending the billions of pounds which are going into this without any kind of rigorous examination of the background, the science, the implications of it all. Because there is now a degree of hysteria about it, fairly unformed hysteria I’ve got to say as well.

“I mean I get it in the Assembly all the time and most of the people who shout about climate change have not read one article about climate change, not read one book about climate change, if you asked them to explain how they believe there’s a connection between CO2 emission and the effects which they claim there’s going to be, if you ask them to explain the thought process or the modelling that is required and the assumptions behind that and how tenuous all the connections are, they wouldn’t have a clue.

“They simply get letters about it from all these lobby groups, it’s popular and therefore they go along with the flow — and that would be ok if there were no implications for it, but the implications are immense.”

He said while people in the western world were facing spiralling fuel bills as a result of efforts to cut CO2, the implications in poorer countries were graver.

“What are the problems that face us either locally and internationally. Are those not the things we should be concentrating on?” he asked.

“HIV, lack of clean water, which kills millions of people in third world countries, lack of education.

“A fraction of the money we are currently spending on climate change could actually eradicate those three problems alone, a fraction of it.

“I think as a society we sometimes need to get some of these things in perspective and when I listen to some of the rubbish that is spoken by some of my colleagues in the Assembly it amuses me at times and other times it angers me.”

Despite his views on CO2, Mr Wilson said he does not intend to backtrack on commitments made by his predecessor at the Department of the Environment, Arlene Foster, to make the Stormont estate carbon neutral.

He said while he wasn’t worried about reducing CO2 output, he said the policy would help to cut fuels bills.

“I don’t couch those actions in terms of reducing Co2 emissions,” he said. “I don’t care about Co2 emissions to be quite truthful because I don’t think it’s all that important but what I do believe is, and perhaps this is where there can be some convergence, as far as using fuel more efficiently that is good for our economy; that makes us more competitive. If we can save in schools hundreds of thousands on fuel that’s more money being put for books or classroom assistants.

“So yes there are things we can do. If you want to express it terms of carbon neutral, I just express it terms of making the place more efficient, less wasteful and hopefully that will release money to do the proper things that we should be doing.”
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Re: 2008 had the least solar activity since 1900 global cooling expected!
You should make that more concise. Its good stuff, and nobody considers the solar activity as a playing a part in global temperatures, even though a correlation has been shown before especially the solar minimum during the mini ice age in Europe.

I for one expect global cooling next year, but the problem is the environment police are not going to be pleased with people that have wood or coal burning fires to keep themselfs warm.
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Re: 2008 had the least solar activity since 1900 global cooling expected!
You should make that more concise. Its good stuff, and nobody considers the solar activity as a playing a part in global temperatures, even though a correlation has been shown before especially the solar minimum during the mini ice age in Europe.

I for one expect global cooling next year, but the problem is the environment police are not going to be pleased with people that have wood or coal burning fires to keep themselfs warm.
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next year?

we've still got THIS winter to get through yet.

and NEXT SUMMER!

hiding
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Re: 2008 had the least solar activity since 1900 global cooling expected!
And Obongo wants to get rid of coal. Our energy prices are expected to rise 150% thanks to this out right lie.
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Re: 2008 had the least solar activity since 1900 global cooling expected!
yeah....kept an eye out for an 'intersting' solar event soon.
feels like it is time.
no doom.
just brightness!
lol!





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