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Arab Rockets done by Mossad?

 
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Follow the money.
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Yes. Mossad's methods have always been those relying on stealth and false flag operations.
From the days of bombing the King David Hotel to the Lavon Affair to the attack on the USS Liberty, the state of Israel has followed the same course of Hegelian action. From Oklahoma City to 911, Black September (a Massod infiltrated group to suicide bombers, Israeli black ops have been behind them all. Nothing is new here. The old formula has worked for them, or so they believe, during most of the last century. And yes, they are satan worshippers. Just google a pic of the Israeli Supreme court and you will see all of the occult, Masonic influences. And no, this is not being written by someone who dislikes Jews or anyone else for that matter. Jews from around the world condemn the tactics of the Zionists. Most of their condemnations are never heard however, because the media is by and large owned by zionists. It is all part of the system of world control. Own the financial wealth. Print money with no backing. Set the interest rates. Own the media. And intimidate or kill anyone who deems to seek or speak the truth.

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I donno
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"By way of deception, thou shalt wage war" Mossad's Motto
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sbus dumbass



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Im not scwein free will, they don't have to believe me. Look ridge rider u be careful
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The best argument in favor of the OP's hypothesis is that these latest rockets allegedly are traveling farther than ever before:

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

At a time when Israel is openly bombing Gaza into dust, it seems highly unlikely that Hamas would be able to station its troops at the very border and strain to make rockets go farther than ever before. It makes much more sense that Israel would do as it has done for over 60 years: carry out attacks itself, then blame others.
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Here's a quick refresher course on Israel's Satanic deceptions (false-flag attacks):

The King David Hotel bombing of 1946:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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...Irgun [Zionist terrorist] men, disguised as Arabs, except for Gideon, the leader, who would be dressed as one of the hotel's distinctive Sudanese waiters...
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The Lavon Affair of 1954:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The Lavon Affair refers to the scandal over a failed Israeli covert operation in Egypt known as Operation Susannah, in which Israeli military intelligence planted bombs in Egyptian, American and British-owned targets in Egypt in the summer of 1954 in the hopes that "the Muslim Brotherhood, the Communists, 'unspecified malcontents' or 'local nationalists'" would be blamed.[1]...Israel admitted responsibility in 2005 when Israeli President Moshe Katzav honored the nine Egyptian Jewish agents who were involved.[2]
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Attempted Assassination of the American Ambassador to Lebanon, 1979:
[link to www.wrmea.com]
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Dean’s staunchly courageous defense of Lebanese (and American) interests came to a head in the early evening of Aug. 27, 1980, when, according to all the evidence, Mossad tried but failed to assassinate Dean, his wife (whose French family had old business connections in Lebanon) and their daughter. The long-rumored attempted murder of Dean by Mossad, infamously more noted for its prowess at assassinations than for its abilities as an intelligence agency, was publicly confirmed for the first time in Dean’s Washington talk.

En route from his residence in Lebanon’s hills to the Beirut residence of the AUB president, Dean’s limousine and convoy took 21 rifle bullets. The automobile bearing the ambassador and Mrs. Dean was also struck by two light anti-tank weapons. The shot-out tires on the Deans’ bulletproof car automatically reinflated. The second car, however, carrying their daughter and her fiancé, did not have bulletproof tires and was momentarily stranded. The security guards in the convoy’s third car pushed the daughter and her fiancé into the Deans’ vehicle, and they sped away. Incredibly, none of the ambassador’s party or security guards were seriously wounded. Some shots struck where Dean was sitting, but bulletproof plastic windows saved his life.

Picked up by Lebanese security, the anti-tank canisters had made-in-America markings. After unanswered telegrams to the State Department and all but silent responses to his telephone inquiries, Dean eventually learned that the anti-tank weapons were sold and shipped to Israel in 1974. Dean apparently mused to himself on the irony of an American ambassador being subjected to an Israeli assassination attempt with American weapons supplied to Israel for defense.
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I have a question. Are the Qassam rockets being fired from Gaza being fired by people working for Moassad? Is this being done as a pretext to perform a satanic ritual and another attempt to start war?
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Yoou got that right! Hamas is a creation of Mossad. It is used as a proxy/patsi organization. It is used as a front/patsie organization. Remember the Zionist motto: by way of deception thou shalt do war. The essence of the whole thing is this: Israel has a country or group of people it wants to destroy, the Palestinians. To just go in and bomb the hell out of them and kill every last one would invite international outrage and possibly total condemnation of Israel. So what do they do to get around this? They utilize their patsie organization, Hamas, to throw harmless rockets at Israel. Of course, all the sheepie of the world think that Hamas is a Palestinian organization. So, on the surface, then, it appears that the Palestinians are attacking Israel. End result: Israel gets to destroy the Palestinians and it all looks legitimate. THINK 9/11, the USS Liberty, etc., etc.
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The best argument in favor of the OP's hypothesis is that these latest rockets allegedly are traveling farther than ever before:

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

At a time when Israel is openly bombing Gaza into dust, it seems highly unlikely that Hamas would be able to station its troops at the very border and strain to make rockets go farther than ever before. It makes much more sense that Israel would do as it has done for over 60 years: carry out attacks itself, then blame others.
 Quoting: Skeptic 573439


Nonsense. It's on, so Hamas is using their best stuff when they can get it set up. Quit trying to portray Gaza as a "victim state." Hamas is their elected government - therefore by Hamas' own charter - they elected to go to war with Israel. Now they are losing as they always knew they would - but there is NO general pan-arab uprising against Israel like they hoped. The reason? Everybody in the region except Iran wants Hamas dismembered!
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Notice how grizzled Ol Shill just ignored the previous facts that Isalie has done in the recent past just exactly what the op suggests the dirty rat jews "Might" be doing now. he she just blindly supports Isalie and even puts a cherry on top crosshair on Iran. What a laughable retard GOG is.
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Notice how grizzled Ol Shill just ignored the previous facts that Isalie has done in the recent past just exactly what the op suggests the dirty rat jews "Might" be doing now. he she just blindly supports Isalie and even puts a cherry on top crosshair on Iran. What a laughable retard GOG is.
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He is a demon.
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Notice how grizzled Ol Shill just ignored the previous facts that Isalie has done in the recent past just exactly what the op suggests the dirty rat jews "Might" be doing now. he she just blindly supports Isalie and even puts a cherry on top crosshair on Iran. What a laughable retard GOG is.


He is a demon.
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You're BOTH imbeciles..

c1etus t4ters

Show me the proof that Israel has EVER launched missiles against it's own people.



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Is-ra-hell would never think of concocting a false flag attack to start a war in the Middle East. These Fascist Zionist swine war mongers would never entertain such thoughts.

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Fake rocket attack
Typical Israeli timeline:


Peace summit arranged in Egypt between Sharon and Abbas.

On the morning of February 7, a day before the summit is to start, Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz told Israel Army Radio that he had received intelligence warnings that some militants, including Hezbollah, may try to disrupt the summit.

Due to the intelligence warnings, Israel Police moved to a level III heightened alert status, one level below a state-of-emergency.

Like clockwork, on the afternoon of February 7, rockets rained down on the northern Israeli town of Nahariya, and were immediately described by Israeli police as Katyusha rockets fired by Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon.

Later in the same day, the attack was described as the result of 'human error' involving a failed test by an Israeli weapons manufacturer in the area. It was made clear - some might say too clear - that although the failed test took place on an IDF firing range and was by a weapons company closely associated with the IDF, the IDF had nothing to do with it.


Obviously, the IDF attempted to disrupt the summit, or even provide a reason to call it off, by faking a rocket attack by Hezbollah. It wasn't a coincidence that the Israeli Defense Minister announced the possibility of an attack in the morning, and a faked attack occurred in the afternoon. This is the usual Israeli terrorist bullshit. On times too numerous to mention, whenever Sharon needs political cover to hide some outrage he is committing a convenient 'Palestinian' attack pops up to distract the press and make the poor, poor Israelis look like victims again. This time they were caught red handed, and had to come up with the laughable excuse of 'human error' in rocket testing (you've got to be kidding!). But here's the good part, and the aspect of this whole sordid matter that inspires some optimism. They were busted, and they were busted by IDF insiders. People in the IDF was so disgusted by the trickery that they spilled the beans, resulting in the necessity of the ridiculous cover story to explain the inconvenient fact that rockets coming from an IDF firing range were landing on an Israeli town. It wouldn't do for people to find out that crazies in the IDF were willing to murder Israelis in order to stop the peace process. The good news is that there are Israelis, including Israelis in the IDF, who wouldn't let them get away with it. If Israel is ever to have peace, we need to see more of this whistleblowing.

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Interesting.
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Actually, I think it is quite possible.
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Show me the proof that Israel has EVER launched missiles against it's own people.
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Is there any real proof that Hamas has launched missiles against Israel? Besides the word of israel itself? Is there any proof that any rockets have ever been launched?

Actually someone posted a story yesterday on page one of this thread that gives a hint that Isreal would fire rockets at their own people


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Fake rocket attack

Peace summit arranged in Egypt between Sharon and Abbas.

On the morning of February 7, a day before the summit is to start, Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz told Israel Army Radio that he had received intelligence warnings that some militants, including Hezbollah, may try to disrupt the summit.

Due to the intelligence warnings, Israel Police moved to a level III heightened alert status, one level below a state-of-emergency.

Like clockwork, on the afternoon of February 7, rockets rained down on the northern Israeli town of Nahariya, and were immediately described by Israeli police as Katyusha rockets fired by Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon.

Later in the same day, the attack was described as the result of 'human error' involving a failed test by an Israeli weapons manufacturer in the area. It was made clear - some might say too clear - that although the failed test took place on an IDF firing range and was by a weapons company closely associated with the IDF, the IDF had nothing to do with it.


Obviously, the IDF attempted to disrupt the summit, or even provide a reason to call it off, by faking a rocket attack by Hezbollah. It wasn't a coincidence that the Israeli Defense Minister announced the possibility of an attack in the morning, and a faked attack occurred in the afternoon. This is the usual Israeli terrorist bullshit. On times too numerous to mention, whenever Sharon needs political cover to hide some outrage he is committing a convenient '

Palestinian' attack pops up to distract the press and make the poor, poor Israelis look like victims again. This time they were caught red handed, and had to come up with the laughable excuse of 'human error' in rocket testing (you've got to be kidding!). But here's the good part, and the aspect of this whole sordid matter that inspires some optimism. They were busted, and they were busted by IDF insiders. People in the IDF was so disgusted by the trickery that they spilled the beans, resulting in the necessity of the ridiculous cover story to explain the inconvenient fact that rockets coming from an IDF firing range were landing on an Israeli town. It wouldn't do for people to find out that crazies in the IDF were willing to murder Israelis in order to stop the peace process. The good news is that there are Israelis, including Israelis in the IDF, who wouldn't let them get away with it. If Israel is ever to have peace, we need to see more of this whistleblowing.

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Hamas history tied to Israel

By Richard Sale
UPI Terrorism Correspondent

06/18/02 "UPI" -- --- In the wake of a suicide bomb attack Tuesday on a crowded Jerusalem city bus that killed 19 people and wounded at least 70 more, the Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas, took credit for the blast.

Israeli officials called it the deadliest attack in Jerusalem in six years.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon immediately vowed to fight "Palestinian terror" and summoned his cabinet to decide on a military response to the organization that Sharon had once described as "the deadliest terrorist group that we have ever had to face."

Active in Gaza and the West Bank, Hamas wants to liberate all of Palestine and establish a radical Islamic state in place of Israel. It is has gained notoriety with its assassinations, car bombs and other acts of terrorism.

But Sharon left something out.

Israel and Hamas may currently be locked in deadly combat, but, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials, beginning in the late 1970s, Tel Aviv gave direct and indirect financial aid to Hamas over a period of years.

Israel "aided Hamas directly -- the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization)," said Tony Cordesman, Middle East analyst for the Center for Strategic Studies.

Israel's support for Hamas "was a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative," said a former senior CIA official.

According to documents United Press International obtained from the Israel-based Institute for Counter Terrorism, Hamas evolved from cells of the Muslim Brotherhood, founded in Egypt in 1928. Islamic movements in Israel and Palestine were "weak and dormant" until after the 1967 Six Day War in which Israel scored a stunning victory over its Arab enemies.

After 1967, a great part of the success of the Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood was due to their activities among the refugees of the Gaza Strip. The cornerstone of the Islamic movements success was an impressive social, religious, educational and cultural infrastructure, called Da'wah, that worked to ease the hardship of large numbers of Palestinian refugees, confined to camps, and many who were living on the edge.

"Social influence grew into political influence," first in the Gaza Strip, then on the West Bank, said an administration official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

According to ICT papers, Hamas was legally registered in Israel in 1978 by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the movement's spiritual leader, as an Islamic Association by the name Al-Mujamma al Islami, which widened its base of supporters and sympathizers by religious propaganda and social work.

According to U.S. administration officials, funds for the movement came from the oil-producing states and directly and indirectly from Israel. The PLO was secular and leftist and promoted Palestinian nationalism. Hamas wanted to set up a transnational state under the rule of Islam, much like Khomeini's Iran.

What took Israeli leaders by surprise was the way the Islamic movements began to surge after the Iranian revolution, after armed resistance to Israel sprang up in southern Lebanon vis-�-vis the Hezbollah, backed by Iran, these sources said.

"Nothing provides the energy for imitation as much as success," commented one administration expert.

A further factor of Hamas' growth was the fact the PLO moved its base of operations to Beirut in the '80s, leaving the Islamic organization to grow in influence in the Occupied Territories "as the court of last resort," he said.

When the intifada began, Israeli leadership was surprised when Islamic groups began to surge in membership and strength. Hamas immediately grew in numbers and violence. The group had always embraced the doctrine of armed struggle, but the doctrine had not been practiced and Islamic groups had not been subjected to suppression the way groups like Fatah had been, according to U.S. government officials.

But with the triumph of the Khomeini revolution in Iran, with the birth of Iranian-backed Hezbollah terrorism in Lebanon, Hamas began to gain in strength in Gaza and then in the West Bank, relying on terror to resist the Israeli occupation.

Israel was certainly funding the group at that time. One U.S. intelligence source who asked not to be named said that not only was Hamas being funded as a "counterweight" to the PLO, Israeli aid had another purpose: "To help identify and channel towards Israeli agents Hamas members who were dangerous terrorists."

In addition, by infiltrating Hamas, Israeli informers could only listen to debates on policy and identify Hamas members who "were dangerous hard-liners," the official said.

In the end, as Hamas set up a very comprehensive counterintelligence system, many collaborators with Israel were weeded out and shot. Violent acts of terrorism became the central tenet, and Hamas, unlike the PLO, was unwilling to compromise in any way with Israel, refusing to acquiesce in its very existence.

But even then, some in Israel saw some benefits to be had in trying to continue to give Hamas support: "The thinking on the part of some of the right-wing Israeli establishment was that Hamas and the others, if they gained control, would refuse to have any part of the peace process and would torpedo any agreements put in place," said a U.S. government official who asked not to be named.

"Israel would still be the only democracy in the region for the United States to deal with," he said.

All of which disgusts some former U.S. intelligence officials.

"The thing wrong with so many Israeli operations is that they try to be too sexy," said former CIA official Vincent Cannestraro.

According to former State Department counter-terrorism official Larry Johnson, "the Israelis are their own worst enemies when it comes to fighting terrorism."

"The Israelis are like a guy who sets fire to his hair and then tries to put it out by hitting it with a hammer."

"They do more to incite and sustain terrorism than curb it," he said.

Aid to Hamas may have looked clever, "but it was hardly designed to help smooth the waters," he said. "An operation like that gives weight to President George Bush's remark about there being a crisis in education."

Cordesman said that a similar attempt by Egyptian intelligence to fund Egypt's fundamentalists had also come to grief because of "misreading of the complexities."

An Israeli defense official was asked if Israel had given aid to Hamas said, "I am not able to answer that question. I was in Lebanon commanding a unit at the time, besides it is not my field of interest."

Asked to confirm a report by U.S. officials that Brig. Gen. Yithaq Segev, the military governor of Gaza, had told U.S. officials he had helped fund "Islamic movements as a counterweight to the PLO and communists," the official said he could confirm only that he believed Segev had served back in 1986.

The Israeli Embassy press office referred UPI to its Web site when asked to comment. [link to www.informationclearinghouse.info]
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So, what is coming to be revealed, is that Hamas is actually a Mossad controlled organization.

Common sense dictates, that firing rockets into Israel never will benefit the Gazans.

So some other entity must be doing this.

Furthermore, this entity takes pains to make sure these rockets only land in fields, cemeteries, and abandoned buildings.

Hmm.
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Interesting thread.

I don't understand the motive behind any Gazan shooting a rocket. Does not seem rational.

Bump for more discussion...
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Notice how grizzled Ol Shill just ignored the previous facts that Isalie has done in the recent past just exactly what the op suggests the dirty rat jews "Might" be doing now. he she just blindly supports Isalie and even puts a cherry on top crosshair on Iran. What a laughable retard GOG is.


He is a demon.


You're BOTH imbeciles..

:c1etus: :t4ters:

Show me the proof that Israel has EVER launched missiles against it's own people.



Goofs
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You're right GOG, Israel got all of the Jews out of WTC before they blew them up.
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I have a question. Are the Qassam rockets being fired from Gaza being fired by people working for Moassad? Is this being done as a pretext to perform a satanic ritual and another attempt to start war?


Yoou got that right! Hamas is a creation of Mossad. It is used as a proxy/patsi organization. It is used as a front/patsie organization. Remember the Zionist motto: by way of deception thou shalt do war. The essence of the whole thing is this: Israel has a country or group of people it wants to destroy, the Palestinians. To just go in and bomb the hell out of them and kill every last one would invite international outrage and possibly total condemnation of Israel. So what do they do to get around this? They utilize their patsie organization, Hamas, to throw harmless rockets at Israel. Of course, all the sheepie of the world think that Hamas is a Palestinian organization. So, on the surface, then, it appears that the Palestinians are attacking Israel. End result: Israel gets to destroy the Palestinians and it all looks legitimate. THINK 9/11, the USS Liberty, etc., etc.
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Was. To confront Fatah. Divide and conquer. You know the story.
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The best argument in favor of the OP's hypothesis is that these latest rockets allegedly are traveling farther than ever before:

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

At a time when Israel is openly bombing Gaza into dust, it seems highly unlikely that Hamas would be able to station its troops at the very border and strain to make rockets go farther than ever before. It makes much more sense that Israel would do as it has done for over 60 years: carry out attacks itself, then blame others.
 Quoting: Skeptic 573439

Good point along with many others in this thread. It shows how easily the american people can be manipulated into going along with the slaughter of thoudands and even millions on little to no evidence that is never verified. Proof is just a matter of if CNN. Fox ABC or NBC say it is so.

Those that go along with such crap have blood on their hands and will have to answer to god someday.

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