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JUST THE FACTS

The documents that we found when conducting our research into Barack Obama Jr.'s citizenship are displayed on this page. This is what we know about Barack Obama Jr.'s parents and his citizenship.

Barack Obama Jr. aka Barack H. Obama Jr. aka Barry Soetoro aka Barack Soetoro aka Barry Dunham aka Barry Obama aka Barack Hussein Obama

Barack Obama Jr.'s mother is Stanley Ann Dunham, aka Ann Dunham, aka Stanley Ann Obama aka Ann Obama, aka Stanley Ann Soetoro, aka Ann Soetoro.

Barack Obama Jr. was born to Barack Obama Sr., a citizen of Kenya and Stanley Ann Dunham, a citizen of the U.S.

Barack Obama Jr.'s mother, Ann Dunham, divorced Barack Obama Jr's father in or about 1963 when Barack Obama Jr was two years old.

Then Barack Obama Jr.'s mother, Ann Dunham, married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia. Lolo Soetoro legally acknowledged Barack H. Obama, Jr. et al. as his son and/or adopted him.

While Ann Dunham (Soetoro) aka Stanley Ann Soetoro was married to Lolo Soertoro, Barack Obama Jr. was enrolled in the public school in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen.

On August 20, 1980, Stanley Ann Soetoro, initiated divorce proceedings from Lolo Soetoro in Honolulu, HI. click here to view court docket

When asked, Barack H. Obama, Jr., et al claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii however, claims to have been born in two (2) separate hospitals. According to Barack H. Obama's Kenyan grandmother, Barack, Jr. was born in Mombosa, Kenya and she was present during his birth. The Kenyan Government, claim they have the birthing records of Barack H. Obama, Jr. and the birth delivery records of Ann Obama, from Barack H. Obama, Jr.'s birth in Mombosa, Kenya, however, they have sealed the birth records of Barack H. Obama, et al, birth in Mombosa, Kenya and labled them top secret as a result of the presidential election.

The questions are, "where was Barack Obama Jr. born"? Is Barack Obama, Jr. a/k/a Barry Soetoro still an Indonesian Citizen? What is Barack Obama, Jr. a/k/a Barry Soetoro's legal name?

02/18/08: Star Bulletin News Article Obama backers stress importance of caucuses, page 2, "He was born in Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children"

11/04: The Rainbow Edition, Volume 2, Issue 3, Education Laboratory School, page 2, "Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961 at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii"

10/2008: Interview with Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.'s Kenyan grandmother, Sarah Obama during a taped interview at her home in Kenya was adamant "Barack, Jr. was born in Mombosa, Kenya and I was present during his birth."

10/30/08: Affidavit of Reverend Kweli Shuhubia, "Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombosa Kenya" "Kenyan Officials with the Provincial Civil Registrar stated there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa , Kenya on August 4, 1961 and confirmed the birthing records of Barack H. Obama, Jr. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barack H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret."

10/27/08: Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae, "US Senator Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii"

01/01/68: Indonesian School Record, "Name of School: Fransiskus Assisi School, Name: Barry Soetoro, Citizenship: Indonesian, Name of Parent: Lolo Soetoro, M.A. The school records indicate that Barack Obama Jr. aka Barry Soetoro attended first grade in Indonesia and that he was born in Honolulu Hawaii on 08/04/1961 and his father is Lolo Soetoro.
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What exactly is this supposed to prove? Did you even read the pdf you linked to this thread? I would assume you are attempting to use it to prove that Obama is not an American, since this thread can obviously be only about that.

But if you haven't noticed, those court documents, while they may very well be official copies, have absolutely nothing to do with Barack Obama! They don't even mention his name, let alone his place of birth!
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AFFIDAVIT OF BISHOP RON McRAE
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE
Plaintiff
vs.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, ET AL
Defendants
CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083
AFFIDAVIT OF BISHOP RON McRAE
I, Bishop Ron McRae am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a party to the
within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as
follows;
I am the Continental Bishop who oversees the Anabaptists Churches in North
America. I am also the Presiding Elder on the African Presbytery, where we have
numerous churches throughout Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, the Democratic Republic of
the Congo and mission works in several other African nations. The African Presbytery is
comprised of the national bishops of the various countries we minister in and support,
along with our statewide bishops from New York and Pennsylvania.
We actively visit and minister throughout these African countries, and do so
extensively throughout all of Kenya these last three [3] years. In overseeing the
establishment of our churches and presbytery in Kenya, over the last two [2] years we
have had personal dealings, continually, with many citizens of Kenya from every tribe
and economic standing throughout the wonderful nation of Kenya, with whom the
national interests in United States Senator Barack Hussein Obama is a very popular topic
of discussion. The tribal cultures of the Kenyanese people have involved much turmoil
during the national elections at the end of December 2007 and the beginning of 2008.
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae
1
Page 2
The much published violence that erupted over the presidential elections caught the
world's attention. Myself and several American minister with our church were present
during this time in Kenya, and the facts concerning this strife and the ensuing violence
were well known, and of common knowledge throughout all of Kenya.
The opposition party that was responsible for all of the violence was from the
minority Luo tribe, which is a Muslim tribe that supported Mr. Raila Odinga for
president. Raila Odinga is a Marxists socialist who graduated from the East Germany
Magdeburg University in 1970 on a scholarship from the East German government. He
named his first born son after Fidel Castro. Raila Odinga spent six years in prison for his
admitted involvement in the bloody coup attempt in 1982 to over take and assassinate
Daniel Arap Moi, Kenya's President. Mr. Odinga has publicly admitted to being the
leader of that coup in his 2006.
Mr. Odinga is the cousin of United States Senator Barack Obama; Mr. Obama is
from the same Muslim tribe, the Luo Tribe, as Mr. Odinga. Senator Obama visited Kenya
in August of 2006 and campaigned extensively for his cousin, Mr. Odinga, which gave
Odinga a tremendous boost. During Senator Obama's campaign stops on behalf of his
cousin Odinga, the Senator made numerous claims against the democratic government of
Kenya and Kenya's President Mwai Kibaki, claiming they were corrupt, stating often,
that Kenya was "ready for change", just as he has campaigned here in the United States
during this Presidential election. It has also been common knowledge throughout Kenya
that Senator Obama sent his foreign policy advisor, Mr. Mark Lippert, to Kenya at least
three times to advise Mr. Odinga on his campaign strategies. See Mark Hyman's
Washington Times article published October 12, 2008, attached as Exhibit "1".
Moreover, everyone in Kenya is well aware that Senator Obama donated over one million
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae 2
Page 3
American dollars ($1,000,000.00) to his cousin's, Mr. Odinga's campaign, which is
documented in the Kenyan Political Party, for Mr. Odinga, Orange Democratic
Movement [hereinafter "ODM"] along with extensive funds from other Muslim
supporters including but not limited to the Muslim son of Muammar Gadhafi, the dictator
of Libyan's Muslim government. These issues are common knowledge throughout
Kenya, and the information is publicly documented across the internet.
It is detailed in Odinga's financial reports and strategies ODM Internal Memo
documents, attached as Exhibit "2", which are public records, that a significant portion
of Senator Obama's financial contributions (made through an organization identified as
Friends of Senator Barack Obama) were used to help finance both the signed Muslim
Memorandum of Understanding as well as the planned violence, murders and bloodshed
that occurred in December of 2007. Within the ODM Internal Memo attached as Exhibit
"2", the funds donated by Mr. Obama through "Friends of Senator Barack Obama" were
to be used for "Violence as a last result...to discourage voter participation in hostile
areas...use ODM agents on the ground to engineer ethnic tensions in target
areas...support Kapondi's forces in Mt. Eglon", and to do so during "Mid-December".
Unfortunately, the exact violence described in these reports was carried out and occurred
at the beginning of the second week of December 2007.
Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim
communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propagandas here in the United
States, US Senator Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he
was born in Mombassa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the
Obama campaign for presidency of the United States. Mr. Obama's cousin ran his failed
campaign for the Kenyan presidency in the identical fashion of Senator Obama's
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae 3
Page 4
American campaign strategy, and that being to join a nominal Christian church in order
to publicly profess to be a Christian, while maintaining their actual Muslim beliefs, in
order to sway public opinion away from the actual fact of his strong Muslim beliefs,
family and goals. It is a known fact that membership in the United Church of Christ in
Chicago, where Barack Obama was a member, does not require Muslim's to renounce
their Islamic faith in order to join the UCC church. Throughout Kenya it is and was well
publicized in the media that a Memorandum of Understanding agreement, attached as
Exhibit "3", between Raila Odinga and Sheik Abdullahi Abdi, chairman of the National
Muslim Leaders Forum, was signed by Odinga on August 29, 2007 in which Raila
Odinga promised if elected to implement numerous drastic changes including but not
limited to the following.
• Recognize "Islam as the only true religion".
• "Islamic leaders would have an oversight role to monitor activities of ALL other
religions" [emphasis in the original].
• Installation of Shariah courts in every jurisdiction to implement Islamic law.
• Implement a ban on Christian preaching.
Because of the seriousness of all the above, as a Christian and a citizen of the
United States, this preacher could no longer sit idly by knowing these things and continue
to minister in both Kenya and the United States. As the presiding bishop over the
Continental Presbytery of Africa, I authorized representatives within our church to locate
and interview Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama, the actual grandmother of US Senator Barack
Obama. Ms. Sarah Obama lives in the Alego-Kogello, approximately 37 miles from
Kisumu, where the Anabaptists have a congregation, and where this preacher has
preached several times prior to the December elections in 2007, and prior to the planned
violence from the Odinga supporters, which erupted.
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae 4
Page 5
With Senator Obama being born in Kenya and not in the United States, he is not a
"natural born" citizen and it prohibits him from being eligible to run for and/or serve as
President of the United States. Since Senator Obama's birth was reportedly in 1961, birth
records may or may not be available, so I felt it very important to obtain the testimony of
his grandmother as a first hand witness, since it is commonly known throughout Kenya,
and especially around the Kisumu area, that Sarah Obama was present when Barack
Obama, Jr. was born in Kenya.
Accordingly, on Thursday, October 16, 2008 Reverend Kweli Shuhudia (actual
name temporarily withheld to protect his life), an evangelists with our ministries
throughout Africa traveled to Kogello and located Ms. Sarah Obama at her home, see the
attached email, attached as Exhibit "4". Mr. Shuhudia is a very intelligent and educated
citizen of Africa, a former teacher and respected evangelist throughout Africa. Mr.
Shuhudia acts as our official translator when we are in Africa, and is fluent in both
Swahili and English. Mr. Shuhudia met and interviewed Ms. Sarah Obama at length on
October 16' , during which interview; he called me on my mobile number, see my phone
record attached as Exhibit "5". Mr. Shuhudia called me first on October 16th at
10:33a.m. and advised that he was with Sarah Hussein Obama and that she wanted to
speak with me, but the connection was lost. He called me right back at 10:35a.m. and he
informed me that there were several hundred people present, celebrating Obama's
success. I questioned him about the format of the phone call and conversation with Ms.
Obama, and then informed him that I would call him right back, so it would not cost him
international charges for the call. I called back at 10:40a.m. and public music and voices
could be heard that were gathered around Kweli Shuhudia. I then spoke with him and
requested that they utilize the speaker phone so everyone could hear. The speaker phone
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae 5
Page 6
with its open microphone was utilized with Mr. Shuhudia, Mr. Vitalis Akech Ogombe the
Kogelo Community Chairman assisting in the translation work and Ms. Sarah Hussein,
along with several hundred people including policeman present and listening to the open
conversation between the four of us for approximately 15 minutes. Mr. Vitqalis Ogombe
is also the step grandson of Ms. Obama and the cousin of Barack Obama. A third
unknown party can be heard periodically interjecting both Swahili and English words in
the public discussion and conversation between the four of us. At times the room noise
from other peoples' voices makes some of the swahili difficult to hear, and towards the
end of the converstaion several men's voices are heard that are not identified. As I talked
to and questioned Ms. Obama publicly over the open microphone of Mr. Shuhudia's
speaker phone, they would translate what I said to her in Swahili publicly, and then they
would translate her Swahili responses to me publicly in English. Ms. Obama can fluently
speak Swahili in her native dialect, but cannot read or write. In the ensuing public
conversation, I asked Ms. Obama specifically, "Were you present when your grandson
Barack Obama was born in Kenya?" This was asked to her in translation twice, and both
times she specifically replied, "Yes! Yes she was! She was present when Obama was
born". Though, some few younger relatives, including Mr. Ogombe, have obviously been
versed to counter such facts with the common purported information from the American
news media that Obama was born in Hawaii, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very
adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that
she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Mr.
Ogombe attempted to counter Sarah Obama's clear responses to the question, verifying
the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, I asked Mr. Ogombe, how she could be present at
Barack Obama's birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but Ogombe would not answer
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae 6
Page 7
the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that, "No, No, No. He was born in the
United States!" But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed
her reply that she was in deed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
A transcript of this taped public interview is attached as Exhibit "6". Mr. Shuhudia took
photographs during the open conversation and interview with Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama,
which photos will be forthcoming.
Because of the seriousness of the political situation and the impact of such on a
United States Presidential election, and because of the factual reality of tremendous
violence in Kenya towards Christians, especially in the immediate area of Kisumu, where
both Sarah Hussein Obama and Rev. Kweli Shuhudia live, it is requested that all
reasonable and legal steps be taken to secure Rev. Kweli Shuhudia's identity to the
Federal Court alone, in order to protect his life and safety for being willing to provide this
very important assistance in gathering this testimony and evidence to be used in any
Federal litigation.
The above related facts are true and verifiable to the best of my personal knowledge
before God Almighty, whose I am and whom I serve.
I declare under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States, that the
foregoing is true and correct.
Dated: October A 7- 2008
/'By the^grace of God alone
RoiiMcRae
Residing Bishop
Continental Presbytery of Africa
Anabaptists Churches of N. America
John 3:30/
Philippians 3:19-21, 29, 30
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae
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NOTARY PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania )
On October X"~l , 2008, before me jAp_ ( v^C^xS is^Sç MrWiv
(Insert name and title of Notary) '
personally appeared Bisphop Ron McRae who proved to me on the basis
of satisfactory evidence to be the person whose name is subscribed to the within
instrument and acknowledged to me that he executed the same and that by his
signature on the instrument the person executed the instrument..
I certify under PENALTY OF PERJURY under the laws of United States that the
foregoing paragraph is true and correct. commonwealth of Pennsylvania
WITNESS my hand and official seal.
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Signature of Notary Public
Notarial Seal
Dale Curtis Rose, Notary Public
Jenner Twp., Somerset County
My Commission Expires Feb. 4,2010
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Notable Members of the Luo Tribe

The father of United States senator, Barack Obama is a Luo (his mother was American). Not only is Obama a senator, but also one of the democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential election.

Another Luo politician is Raila Amolo Odinga, who was the big contestor to sitting President Mwai Kibaki in the December 2007 elections. After reports of election fraud by Kibaki and riots, the two agreed to form a peaceful broad coalition government.

Related pages:
Tribes in Kenya - Introduction
List of the main Kenya tribes
Barack Obama and the Luo tribe
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What exactly is this supposed to prove? Did you even read the pdf you linked to this thread? I would assume you are attempting to use it to prove that Obama is not an American, since this thread can obviously be only about that.

But if you haven't noticed, those court documents, while they may very well be official copies, have absolutely nothing to do with Barack Obama! They don't even mention his name, let alone his place of birth!
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His Birth father was a Kenyan/British Muslim citizen
his adopted father -Soetoro was Mulsim Indonisian.

Obama is not a natural born citizen which ever way to cut it and cannot be POTUS LEGALLY.

Just letting you see LEGAL proof of the facts we have all been telling you about
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Notable Members of the Luo Tribe

The father of United States senator, Barack Obama is a Luo (his mother was American). Not only is Obama a senator, but also one of the democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential election.

Another Luo politician is Raila Amolo Odinga, who was the big contestor to sitting President Mwai Kibaki in the December 2007 elections. After reports of election fraud by Kibaki and riots, the two agreed to form a peaceful broad coalition government.

Related pages:
Tribes in Kenya - Introduction
List of the main Kenya tribes
Barack Obama and the Luo tribe
Homepage
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Well, then that proves it,
Elvis Lives!!!!!!!
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What exactly is this supposed to prove? Did you even read the pdf you linked to this thread? I would assume you are attempting to use it to prove that Obama is not an American, since this thread can obviously be only about that.

But if you haven't noticed, those court documents, while they may very well be official copies, have absolutely nothing to do with Barack Obama! They don't even mention his name, let alone his place of birth!
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It proves Obama lied and committed Perjury on his application to be a lawyer for he said he was not known by any other names.

Barack Obama Jr. aka Barack H. Obama Jr. aka Barry Soetoro aka Barack Soetoro aka Barry Dunham aka Barry Obama aka Barack Hussein Obama

Barack Obama Jr.'s mother is Stanley Ann Dunham, aka Ann Dunham, aka Stanley Ann Obama aka Ann Obama, aka Stanley Ann Soetoro, aka Ann Soetoro.
Barack Obama Jr. was born to Barack Obama Sr., a citizen of Kenya and Stanley Ann Dunham, a citizen of the U.S.

Barack Obama Jr.'s mother, Ann Dunham, divorced Barack Obama Jr's father in or about 1963 when Barack Obama Jr was two years old.

Then Barack Obama Jr.'s mother, Ann Dunham, married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia. Lolo Soetoro legally acknowledged Barack H. Obama, Jr. et al. as his son and/or adopted him.
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EPIC FAIL OP. But, I trust that you know more than all the Dems and Rebubs and their thousands of search committees. So, you keep at it, it's time well spent after all. He was born in Kenya and that's it!! Nothing that all the officials claim or proof they produce will make any difference, your facts are superior. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"
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EPIC FAIL OP. But, I trust that you know more than all the Dems and Rebubs and their thousands of search committees. So, you keep at it, it's time well spent after all. He was born in Kenya and that's it!! Nothing that all the officials claim or proof they produce will make any difference, your facts are superior. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"
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Even if he was born on American soil it makes no difference
as the above Site shows His father was a Kenyan!
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OP posted the wrong divorce documents, the document needed is the one from her first marriage/divorce to Obamas natural father.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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EPIC FAIL OP. But, I trust that you know more than all the Dems and Rebubs and their thousands of search committees. So, you keep at it, it's time well spent after all. He was born in Kenya and that's it!! Nothing that all the officials claim or proof they produce will make any difference, your facts are superior. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"


Even if he was born on American soil it makes no difference
as the above Site shows His father was a Kenyan!
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Born on American soil makes all the difference.
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So what if his father was Kenyan, that's a well known fact? What difference does that make?
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obama's real father obama sr was 93 Arab 7 percent African Black and and "Muslim" by religion. .according to archieve records in various local gov registration archieves, in kenya..which are sealed now. .Obamas father was already married at time obama was born. in kenya..
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OBAMA CALLS JESUS CHRIST A LIAR !


5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

In terms of actual beliefs, Obama told Falsini that he has a deep faith "...rooted in the Christian tradition." He added, "I believe that there are many paths to the same place!

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6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

[link to kingjbible.com]

1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.

7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.


14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.


27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:







<< John 10 >>
King James Bible
1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.

7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

19 There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings. 20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? 21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. 24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. 25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. 39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

40 And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; and there he abode. 41 And many resorted unto him, and said, John did no miracle: but all things that John spake of this man were true. 42 And many believed on him there.

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So what if his father was Kenyan, that's a well known fact? What difference does that make?
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Instead of speculating why he can or cannot be POTUS...

Instead of stating our opinions of why it would be good or bad to stop an election train...

Or if Barry is a nice guy...

Or if Constitutionalists are racist right wingers...

LET"S ALL READ OUR CONSTITUTION!!!

Maybe you have a different VERSION... but in my land of dreams there are laws and they are clearly within context about becoming POTUS...

And Barry Can't.

That's not to say he won't! Hell, NSA can read this email despite what my constitution says.... AND YET, I KNOW THAT IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!!!
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What exactly is this supposed to prove? Did you even read the pdf you linked to this thread? I would assume you are attempting to use it to prove that Obama is not an American, since this thread can obviously be only about that.

But if you haven't noticed, those court documents, while they may very well be official copies, have absolutely nothing to do with Barack Obama! They don't even mention his name, let alone his place of birth!


His Birth father was a Kenyan/British Muslim citizen
his adopted father -Soetoro was Mulsim Indonisian.

Obama is not a natural born citizen which ever way to cut it and cannot be POTUS LEGALLY.

Just letting you see LEGAL proof of the facts we have all been telling you about
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Dude, lets get one thing straight before I continue. I do not like Obama, I think he is a fascist, and I see him as rebuilding the Clinton administration, destroying what is left of American freedom, and ultimately bringing our way of life to an end once and for all. In fact, that is what he is doing as we speak. I did not vote for the guy, and I think that 'if' the American people did, then they were blindsided by his wonderful rhetoric, and led to their own destruction by their lack of inquisitiveness about the mans mysterious roots. I think it is despicable that not only do the people think he is a messiah figure, but our zionist controlled media is parading him around the airwaves as such.

That being said, There is Absolutely no proof whatsoever to show that he was born outside of the United States. You can argue this point until you are blue in the face, but for as long as he keeps his original Birth Certificate under lock and key, you will have no proof to verify your claims. And this Pdf Document you provide? come on man, get serious! Like I pointed out once before, it does not mention Barack Obama once in the 5 page Document, nor does it mention his place of birth!

Pull your head out of your ass for just one moment and look at the world around you. Take a look at reality! Your incoherent struggle to prove this man's nationality is doing nothing more than wasting your time, my time, and the time of everyone else that happens to stop in for read. Not only that, but you are quickly succumbing to "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" syndrome. By the time you or anyone else actually do get real solid proof, the people will be so fed up with your bullshit, that the evidence will fall on deaf ears, as you might be noticing is already happening.

Seriously, give it up. And focus your energies on something more worthwhile, like preparing yourself and your loved ones for the extremely tough times ahead. There is no longer anything you can do to change what is coming. It is too late for that. Now you can only prepare, hunker down, and weather the coming storm. The American people have spoken, and they have said, "We's is stoopid! We's don't care 'bout our country no mo'! Please give us mo' gubment handouts and stuff. We's don't care 'bout our rights, so youses can take 'em all away! Oh, and go ahead and massacre millions in our name too! Just show's us the carnage on the Hollywood Bigscreen!!!"
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OP, so, if you fail to prove that he's not American, your next claim is that you know he's not a 'christian'?
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EPIC FAIL OP. But, I trust that you know more than all the Dems and Rebubs and their thousands of search committees. So, you keep at it, it's time well spent after all. He was born in Kenya and that's it!! Nothing that all the officials claim or proof they produce will make any difference, your facts are superior. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"


Even if he was born on American soil it makes no difference
as the above Site shows His father was a Kenyan!

Born on American soil makes all the difference.
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NOT FOR ELIGIBILTIY AS POTUS IT DOESNT
A PERSON ELIGABLE FOR POTUS MUST HAVE "TWO" AMERICAN BORN PARENTS

Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, confirms that understanding and the construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:"[5]

“ find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…. . .

OBAMAS DAD JELD ALEGEICNE TO THE KENYAN/BRITISH GOVERNMENTS AT THE TIME OF OBAMAS BIRTH.
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OP, so, if you fail to prove that he's not American, your next claim is that you know he's not a 'christian'?
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The Lord himself knows he OBAMA DOES Not HAVE THE TRUTH IN HIM.
FOR HE DOES NOT HOLD TO JESUS CHRISTS WORD AS THE WORD OF TRUTH.
HE MAKES UP HIS FAITH AND DENIES CHRISTS WORDS.
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EPIC FAIL OP. But, I trust that you know more than all the Dems and Rebubs and their thousands of search committees. So, you keep at it, it's time well spent after all. He was born in Kenya and that's it!! Nothing that all the officials claim or proof they produce will make any difference, your facts are superior. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still"


Even if he was born on American soil it makes no difference
as the above Site shows His father was a Kenyan!

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OP...your ignorance is showing. In other words, dont quit your day job you will never make it as a detective. rofl
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I'm sorry OP. You are incorrect. The potus candidate simply needs one American parent to be eligable.
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I do not believe you should be able to vote.
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What exactly is this supposed to prove? Did you even read the pdf you linked to this thread? I would assume you are attempting to use it to prove that Obama is not an American, since this thread can obviously be only about that.

But if you haven't noticed, those court documents, while they may very well be official copies, have absolutely nothing to do with Barack Obama! They don't even mention his name, let alone his place of birth!


His Birth father was a Kenyan/British Muslim citizen
his adopted father -Soetoro was Mulsim Indonisian.

Obama is not a natural born citizen which ever way to cut it and cannot be POTUS LEGALLY.

Just letting you see LEGAL proof of the facts we have all been telling you about

Dude, lets get one thing straight before I continue. I do not like Obama, I think he is a fascist, and I see him as rebuilding the Clinton administration, destroying what is left of American freedom, and ultimately bringing our way of life to an end once and for all. In fact, that is what he is doing as we speak. I did not vote for the guy, and I think that 'if' the American people did, then they were blindsided by his wonderful rhetoric, and led to their own destruction by their lack of inquisitiveness about the mans mysterious roots. I think it is despicable that not only do the people think he is a messiah figure, but our zionist controlled media is parading him around the airwaves as such.

That being said, There is Absolutely no proof whatsoever to show that he was born outside of the United States. You can argue this point until you are blue in the face, but for as long as he keeps his original Birth Certificate under lock and key, you will have no proof to verify your claims. And this Pdf Document you provide? come on man, get serious! Like I pointed out once before, it does not mention Barack Obama once in the 5 page Document, nor does it mention his place of birth!

Pull your head out of your ass for just one moment and look at the world around you. Take a look at reality! Your incoherent struggle to prove this man's nationality is doing nothing more than wasting your time, my time, and the time of everyone else that happens to stop in for read. Not only that, but you are quickly succumbing to "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" syndrome. By the time you or anyone else actually do get real solid proof, the people will be so fed up with your bullshit, that the evidence will fall on deaf ears, as you might be noticing is already happening.

Seriously, give it up. And focus your energies on something more worthwhile, like preparing yourself and your loved ones for the extremely tough times ahead. There is no longer anything you can do to change what is coming. It is too late for that. Now you can only prepare, hunker down, and weather the coming storm. The American people have spoken, and they have said, "We's is stoopid! We's don't care 'bout our country no mo'! Please give us mo' gubment handouts and stuff. We's don't care 'bout our rights, so youses can take 'em all away! Oh, and go ahead and massacre millions in our name too! Just show's us the carnage on the Hollywood Bigscreen!!!"
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HIS ADA WAS KENYAN THE SEARCH FOR THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS SHOWING THIS ADMITTED FACT IS ONLY A LEGAL PROCEDURE THAT WILL BE USED IN A LEGAL COURT.
THE FACT IS ALREADY ADMITTED BY OBAMA AND IS WELL KNOWN
IT IS JUST A LEGALLY REQUIRED PROCEDURE TO SHOW IN COURT THESE LEGAL PAPERS AS A MATTER OF COURT PROCEDURE.

THAT IS THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE TRYING TO GET HOLD OF THEM.
THE CASE IS ALREADY WON IN REALITY!
JUST NEED THEDOCUMENTS TO LEGALLY ENTER INTO COURT RECOEDS THAT NAME HIS FATHER AS A KENYAN/BRITISH CITIZEN AT THE TIME OF HIS SONS OBAMA II'S BIRTH.
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Not that it really matters, but I just had a thought.

Could the OP really be this stupid, or is it even remotely possible that he is a plant, working to stigmatize the public against looking any deeper into this subject?

I mean, it is true that no sufficient evidence has been released to prove his nationality either way, but really? "It makes no difference whether he was born on American soil. His Father was Kenyan"???

POinting out Obama's attack on the Christ? What the fuck does this prove? And where do you get off thinking that even if he was born on American soil, he's not American because his father was Kenyan? Ever heard of friggen anchor babies??

I am very suspicious about this OP. I know that there are people out there who post here for the purpose of experimenting on the lunatic fringe population. I have been known to do so myself, but not with malicious intent.

It seems to me that this guy could definitely be damage control, trying to quell the questions about Obama's legitamacy, by making the public so sick of the idiocy that they just stop asking questions altogether.

But then again, maybe the OP is just really, really retarded.
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THE TRUTH WILL BE LEGALLY PROVEN SOON VIA LEGAL DOCUMENTS ALL ABOUT OBAMAS LEGAL STATUS OF HIM NOT BEING A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN AND SO NOT QUALIFYING FOR THE POSITION OF POTUS.

CHILDREN ARE BORN OF TWO PARENTS ALWAYS- EVEN IF ITS A TEST TUBE BABY!
THE OWNER OF THE SEMEN MUST NOT HOLD ANY OTHER ALLEGENCE!
NEITHER MUST THE OWNER OF THE EGG!!

Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, confirms that understanding and the construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:"[5]
“ find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…. . .
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THE TRUTH WILL BE LEGALLY PROVEN SOON VIA LEGAL DOCUMENTS ALL ABOUT OBAMAS LEGAL STATUS OF HIM NOT BEING A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN AND SO NOT QUALIFYING FOR THE POSITION OF POTUS.

CHILDREN ARE BORN OF TWO PARENTS ALWAYS- EVEN IF ITS A TEST TUBE BABY!
THE OWNER OF THE SEMEN MUST NOT HOLD ANY OTHER ALLEGENCE!
NEITHER MUST THE OWNER OF THE EGG!!

Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, confirms that understanding and the construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:"[5]
“ find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…. . .
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Ok OP, You just surpassed even the retarded mark in this one. Do you even realize what it is you just said? You really gotta read and comprehend before posting.

Really, read the bold print one more time, and let it sink in REAL deep this time, while keeping in mind your previous statement about how it does not matter whether or not he was born on U.S. soil. You are trying to prove a moot point here, and you just shot yourself in the foot.
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Not that it really matters, but I just had a thought.

Could the OP really be this stupid, or is it even remotely possible that he is a plant, working to stigmatize the public against looking any deeper into this subject?

I mean, it is true that no sufficient evidence has been released to prove his nationality either way, but really? "It makes no difference whether he was born on American soil. His Father was Kenyan"???

POinting out Obama's attack on the Christ? What the fuck does this prove? And where do you get off thinking that even if he was born on American soil, he's not American because his father was Kenyan? Ever heard of friggen anchor babies??

I am very suspicious about this OP. I know that there are people out there who post here for the purpose of experimenting on the lunatic fringe population. I have been known to do so myself, but not with malicious intent.

It seems to me that this guy could definitely be damage control, trying to quell the questions about Obama's legitamacy, by making the public so sick of the idiocy that they just stop asking questions altogether.

But then again, maybe the OP is just really, really retarded.
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HIS FATHER WAS STILL A KENYAN /BRTISH CITIZEN AT THE TIME OF OBAMAS BIRTH- THEREFORE HID FATHER HAD ALLEGIANCE TO A FOIRIEGN SOVERIENTY
IT IS QUITE SIMPLE.
AS FOR THE FACT THAT OBAMA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN
IT IS PROVEN BY OBAMA NOT AGREEING WITH JESUS CHRIST WHEN JESUS SAID HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER GOD.
OBAMA SAID HE BELIEVED THERE ARE MANY WAYS .
THERORE HE MAKES CHRIST OUT TO BE A LIAR!
BY IGNORING HIS WORD AND CONTRADICTING IT.

HE THEREFORE DENIES CHRIST AS SOLE SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN AND PROVES HIMSELF (OBAMA) NOT OF THE TRUTH! AND TO BE A FALSE TEACHER IN REGARDS TO CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE.

JESUS SAID
I AM THE WAY
THE TRUTH!
AND THE LIFE
NO MAN COMES TO THE FATH EXCEPT THROUGH ME.
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Oh, but I forgot, His father was Kenyan!
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lies AND LIARS have no power you see
why bother with them
THEY ARE SEEN TO BE LIARS ARE KNOWN TO BE LIARS AND WILL BE DESTROYED BY THE TRUTH!





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