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You Are Being Lied To About The Pirates!

 
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I also agree that there is some sort of bullshit going on over there. A couple of ships should be able to radar 100s of miles over there. Coupled with the fact that they can lock-on and blow the piss outta anything around. The dumping story is probably true in alot of places but it seems odd that NOW they want to place 2 dozen ships over there and just now another gets hijacked--WTF--What are they doing there just watching them ?? Just blow the shit outta couple of boats--keep some hand fired missles on board with someone who can fire them . No problems. Heard that they were hiring Mercs to go on the ships that travel that way also.. So copping another ship 5 days ago seems quite odd..
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yea blow em up, nevermind these guys are defending their fucking countries. something america knows nothing about.
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Confirmed from Italian News
:

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


MAFIA ACCUSED OVER NUCLEAR WASTE



Tuesday, 09 Oct 2007 10:19


[link to www.inthenews.co.uk]

A Mafia clan linked to six blood feud murders

is being investigated for the alleging trafficking of Nuclear waste

and plutonium production, reports claim.



Two members of the 'Ndrangheta mafia, a Calabrian clan,

are accused of shipping radioactive waste to Somalia,

along with eight former employees of state energy research


agency Enea, the Guardian reports.

Francesco Basentini, a magistrate from the southern town
of Potenza, is investigating claims that the mob men were
paid off
by the Enea staff, taking shipments of waste from
the agency's centre in Rotondella, Basilicata,
in the 1980s and 1990s.

The allegations were made by a 'Ndrangheta turncoat,
who claims an Enea manager paid the two clan members
to dispose of some 600 drums of nuclear waste,
with 500 shipped to Somalia and 100 buried in Basilicata

(the 'Ndrangheta being unwilling to bury the waste in
Calabria due to "love of their home region").

An anonymous Enea manager denied the turncoat's allegations, saying:
"Enea has always worked within the rules and under
strict national and international supervision."

The 'Ndrangheta clan are accused of exploiting links

with Colombia to become Europe's biggest cocaine importer
,

while the August shooting of six Italians in Germany has

been linked to a blood feud with a rival clan from San Luca, Calabria.


Nicola Gratteri, the magistrate investigating the murders,

argued that nuclear waste disposal and even the production

of plutonium would not be an unlikely activity for the
'Ndrangheta, the Guardian quoted him as saying.



"The 'Ndrangheta has no morals and, if there is money
in an activity, it will have no problem getting involved,
even nuclear waste," he said.

However, he complained the European police forces had a lax
attitude to clans like the 'Ndrangheta or the Sicilian Cosa Nostra.


"The mafias were the first to take advantage of Europe's
disappearing frontiers," he said,

"but when I go to Germany I see they have not introduced the crime of mafia association
and do not allow wire taps in public places.


"I'm tired of round tables and conventions; what we need is more courage," he added.



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. . HENCE WHY THE MILITARY IS THERE - SEE THE POLITICAL AND DANGEROUS SITUATION HERE?!?!?!



:mamaearth:



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Part 2
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"IT IS THE ABSOLUTE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY IN UNIFORM TO DISOBEY AN ORDER THAT IS EITHER ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL"
- General Peter Pace, chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff addressing the National Press Club, Feb 17/06
"Command Override"
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It pisses me off when these AC IDIOTS take over a thread.

Should be rules to ONLY post something valid.

Not just 'opinions' all the f@cking time to troll all threads.

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'TOXIC WASTE BEHIND SOMALI PIRACY'
By Najad Abdullahi

Somali pirates have accused European firms of dumping toxic waste
off the Somali coast and are demanding an $8m ransom
for the return of a Ukranian ship they captured,
saying the money will go towards cleaning up the waste.

.
The ransom demand is a means of
"reacting to the toxic waste that has been continually dumped on the shores of our country for nearly 20 years",
Januna Ali Jama, a spokesman for the pirates,
based in the semi-autonomous region of Puntland, said.

"The Somali coastline has been destroyed,
and we believe this money is nothing compared to the
devastation that we have seen on the seas."

The pirates are holding the MV Faina, a Ukrainian ship
carrying tanks and military hardware, off Somalia's
northern coast.

According to the International Maritime Bureau, 61 attacks
by pirates have been reported since the start of the year.

While money is the primary objective of the hijackings,
claims of the continued environmental destruction off
Somalia's coast have been largely ignored by the regions's
maritime authorities.

Dumping allegations

Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, the UN envoy for Somalia confirmed
to Al Jazeera the world body has "reliable information"
hat European and Asian companies are dumping toxic waste,
including nuclear waste, off the Somali coastline.

"I must stress however, that no government has endorsed
this act, and that private companies and individuals
acting alone are responsible," he said



Allegations of the dumping of toxic waste,
as well as illegal fishing, have circulated since the early 1990s.

But evidence of such practices literally appeared on the
beaches of northern Somalia when the tsunami of 2004 hit the country.

The UN Environment Programme (UNEP) reported the tsunami
had washed up rusting containers of toxic waste on the
shores of Puntland.

Nick Nuttall, a UNEP spokesman, told Al Jazeera that when
the barrels were smashed open by the force of the waves, the containers exposed a "frightening activity" that has
been going on for more than decade.

"Somalia has been used as a dumping ground for hazardous
waste starting in the early 1990s, and continuing through
the civil war there," he said.

"European companies found it to be very cheap to get rid of
the waste, costing as little as $2.50 a tonne, where waste
disposal costs in Europe are something like $1000 a tonne.

"And the waste is many different kinds.

There is uranium radioactive waste.

There is lead, and

heavy metals like cadmium and mercury.

There is also industrial waste,

and there are hospital wastes, chemical wastes


you name it."

Nuttall also said that since the containers came ashore
hundreds of residents have fallen ill,
suffering from mouth and abdominal bleeding,
skin infections and other ailments.


"We [the UNEP] had planned to do a proper,
in-depth scientific assessment on the magnitude of the problem.

But because of the high levels of insecurity onshore
and off the Somali coast, we are unable to carry out an
accurate assessment of the extent of the problem," he said.

However, Ould-Abdallah claims the practice still continues.

"What is most alarming here is that nuclear waste is being dumped.
Radioactive uranium waste that is potentially killing Somalis
and completely destroying the ocean,"
he said.


Toxic waste

Ould-Abdallah declined to name which companies
are involved in waste dumping
, citing legal reasons.


But he did say the practice helps fuel the 18-year-old
civil war in Somalia as companies are paying Somali
government ministers to dump their waste,

or to secure licences and contracts.

"There is no government control ...
and there are few people with high moral ground ...
[and] yes, people in high positions are being paid off,

but because of the fragility of the TFG [Transitional Federal Government],
some of these companies now no longer ask the authorities –
they simply dump their waste and leave."

Ould-Abdallah said there are ethical questions to be
considered because the companies are negotiating
contracts with a government that is largely divided
along tribal lines.

"How can you negotiate these dealings with a country at war
and with a government struggling to remain relevant?"


-

In 1992, a contract to secure the dumping of toxic waste
was made by Swiss and Italian shipping firms Achair Partners and Progresso,


with Nur Elmi Osman, a former official
appointed to the government of Ali Mahdi Mohamed,
one of many militia leaders involved in the ousting
of Mohamed Siad Barre, Somalia's former president.

At the request of the Swiss and Italian governments,
UNEP investigated the matter.

Both firms had denied entering into any agreement with
militia leaders at the beginning of the Somali civil war.

Osman also denied signing any contract.

.

'Mafia involvement'

However, Mustafa Tolba, the former UNEP executive director,
told Al Jazeera that he discovered the firms were set up as
fictitious companies by larger industrial firms to dispose
of hazardous waste.

"At the time, it felt like we were dealing with the Mafia,
or some sort of organised crime group, possibly working
with these industrial firms," he said.

Nations have found it difficult to tackle
the problem of piracy [AFP]

"It was very shady, and quite underground,
and I would agree with Ould-Abdallah’s claims that it is
still going on...

Unfortunately the war has not allowed environmental groups to investigate this fully."

The Italian mafia controls an estimated 30 per cent
of Italy's waste disposal companies, including those
that deal with toxic waste.


In 1998, Famiglia Cristiana, an Italian weekly magazine, claimed that although most of the waste-dumping took place
after the start of the civil war in 1991, the activity
actually began as early as 1989 under the Barre government.

Beyond the ethical question of trying to secure a hazardous
waste agreement in an unstable country like Somalia,
the alleged attempt by Swiss and Italian firms to dump
waste in Somalia would violate international treaties
to which both countries are signatories.

Legal ramifications

Switzerland and Italy signed and ratified the Basel
Convention on the Control of Transboundary Movements
of Hazardous Wastes and their Disposal,
which came into force in 1992.

EU member states, as well as 168 other countries have also signed the agreement.

The convention prohibits waste trade between countries
that have signed the convention, as well as countries
that have not signed the accord unless a bilateral
agreement had been negotiated.

It is also prohibits the shipping of hazardous waste to a war zone.


Abdi Ismail Samatar, professor of Geography at the
University of Minnesota, told Al Jazeera that because
an international coalition of warships has been deployed
to the Gulf of Aden, the alleged dumping of waste must
have been observed.

Environmental damage

"If these acts are continuing, then surely they must have
been seen by someone involved in maritime operations,"
he said.

"Is the cargo aimed at a certain destination more important
than monitoring illegal activities in the region?

Piracy is not the only problem for Somalia,
and I think it's irresponsible on the part of the
authorities to overlook this issue."

Mohammed Gure, chairman of the Somalia Concern Group,
said that the social and environmental consequences will
be felt for decades.


"The Somali coastline used to sustain hundreds of thousands of people,
as a source of food and livelihoods.

Now much of it is almost destroyed, primarily at the hands
of these so-called ministers that have sold their nation
to fill their own pockets."

Ould-Abdallah said piracy will not prevent waste dumping.

"The intentions of these pirates are not concerned
with protecting their environment," he said.

"What is ultimately needed is a functioning,
effective government that will get its act together
and take control of its affairs."

.
. . ignorant
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
- George Orwell

Evidence of How Israel was Provoking to Start the 6-Day War (videos they pulled after I posted this UN-testimony)

Part 1
[link to www.youtube.com]
Part 2
[link to www.youtube.com]

"IT IS THE ABSOLUTE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY IN UNIFORM TO DISOBEY AN ORDER THAT IS EITHER ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL"
- General Peter Pace, chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff addressing the National Press Club, Feb 17/06
"Command Override"
.
Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people.”

-Eleanor Roosevelt
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Nobody gives a damn about the whole African continent. Not even black people.

That is why we can expect massive suffering in our own lives because we negate and deny the basic truth that we are all connected and everyones suffering and basic needs are connected.



You've got a whole continent inhabited with people who have an IQ of 60 to 70. What can you do about them? The happiest time in their memory was when white people ran their countries, but the white people were driven out and now they suffer from their own stupidity. They've even gone back to eating the pygmies.
You can call me a bigot or whatever you like, but the truth is the truth.

I tried to talk one of my black friends into going to africa to try to take over a country . He wouldn't even consider it because of what he would be giving up in the US. Have you ever heard of black americans organizing relief and aid for Africa? Hell no. They're too busy taking care of Nr 1.



those same white rulers are the ones sabotaging the entire country now you piece of shit. and your black friends are nothing but coons because i would have killed you by now. who the fuck do you think is gonna waltz into a country and try to take over but a white man with a god complex set on enslaving people? most humans cannot properly handle being in a powerful position without becoming corrupt. the best time in africa's history was when black people ruled their countries and your ancestors were in the caucus mountains raping goats.
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So I guess you're black huh?
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CCTV - China Central Television Jan 6 2009

Chinese fleet arrives Gulf of Aden



[link to www.youtube.com]

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"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
- George Orwell

Evidence of How Israel was Provoking to Start the 6-Day War (videos they pulled after I posted this UN-testimony)

Part 1
[link to www.youtube.com]
Part 2
[link to www.youtube.com]

"IT IS THE ABSOLUTE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY IN UNIFORM TO DISOBEY AN ORDER THAT IS EITHER ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL"
- General Peter Pace, chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff addressing the National Press Club, Feb 17/06
"Command Override"
.
Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people.”

-Eleanor Roosevelt
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this story makes me hate the white man even more.
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Lemme guess....YOUR "black"...

Cool. And in the for what it's worth dept, I drive a pewter colored Chevy truck, and my wife drives a green Monte Carlo.....

Because of the choice of the colors of our vehicles, does that imply we are racist?

Maybe I should get me a black truck instead? Cant afford that right now, however, if it would make you fell any better, I'll go down to the local dept stare and purchase a pair of BLACK underwear and wear them on the 3rd day of each month.
*This reply is no threat, nor is it meant to be misunderstood nor construed, twisted, bent or otherwise shaped into something it is not. It is not idle nor deliberate nor meant to be taken in any kind of way that would implicate anything other than thoughts of marshmallow clouds, spring mountains or anything else pleasant, yet not illegal. Also note anything you say or do in reply, whether positive, pissed off, bent out of shape or distressed in any human form (disregarding on record mental illnesses) can be held against you in a court of law. Let it further be known that if someone leaves a response that I find derogatory, I reserve the right to piss and moan, cuss, kick objects that don't breath, (sorry PETA) and throw a general temper tantrum without be held responsible for any actions I may say or act out upon
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I have an opinion about the matter at hand.

...Wait. I forgot what I was going to say.

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It pisses me off when these AC IDIOTS take over a thread.

Should be rules to ONLY post something valid.

Not just 'opinions' all the f@cking time to troll all threads.

* * * * :whistleblo:
'TOXIC WASTE BEHIND SOMALI PIRACY'
By Najad Abdullahi

Somali pirates have accused European firms of dumping toxic waste
off the Somali coast and are demanding an $8m ransom
for the return of a Ukranian ship they captured,
saying the money will go towards cleaning up the waste.

.
The ransom demand is a means of
"reacting to the toxic waste that has been continually dumped on the shores of our country for nearly 20 years",
Januna Ali Jama, a spokesman for the pirates,
based in the semi-autonomous region of Puntland, said.

"The Somali coastline has been destroyed,
and we believe this money is nothing compared to the
devastation that we have seen on the seas."

The pirates are holding the MV Faina, a Ukrainian ship
carrying tanks and military hardware, off Somalia's
northern coast.

According to the International Maritime Bureau, 61 attacks
by pirates have been reported since the start of the year.

While money is the primary objective of the hijackings,
claims of the continued environmental destruction off
Somalia's coast have been largely ignored by the regions's
maritime authorities.

Dumping allegations

Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, the UN envoy for Somalia confirmed
to Al Jazeera the world body has "reliable information"
hat European and Asian companies are dumping toxic waste,
including nuclear waste, off the Somali coastline.

"I must stress however, that no government has endorsed
this act, and that private companies and individuals
acting alone are responsible," he said



Allegations of the dumping of toxic waste,
as well as illegal fishing, have circulated since the early 1990s.

But evidence of such practices literally appeared on the
beaches of northern Somalia when the tsunami of 2004 hit the country.

The UN Environment Programme (UNEP) reported the tsunami
had washed up rusting containers of toxic waste on the
shores of Puntland.

Nick Nuttall, a UNEP spokesman, told Al Jazeera that when
the barrels were smashed open by the force of the waves, the containers exposed a "frightening activity" that has
been going on for more than decade.

"Somalia has been used as a dumping ground for hazardous
waste starting in the early 1990s, and continuing through
the civil war there," he said.

"European companies found it to be very cheap to get rid of
the waste, costing as little as $2.50 a tonne, where waste
disposal costs in Europe are something like $1000 a tonne.

"And the waste is many different kinds.

There is uranium radioactive waste.

There is lead, and

heavy metals like cadmium and mercury.

There is also industrial waste,

and there are hospital wastes, chemical wastes


you name it."

Nuttall also said that since the containers came ashore
hundreds of residents have fallen ill,
suffering from mouth and abdominal bleeding,
skin infections and other ailments.


"We [the UNEP] had planned to do a proper,
in-depth scientific assessment on the magnitude of the problem.

But because of the high levels of insecurity onshore
and off the Somali coast, we are unable to carry out an
accurate assessment of the extent of the problem," he said.

However, Ould-Abdallah claims the practice still continues.

"What is most alarming here is that nuclear waste is being dumped.
Radioactive uranium waste that is potentially killing Somalis
and completely destroying the ocean,"
he said.


Toxic waste

Ould-Abdallah declined to name which companies
are involved in waste dumping
, citing legal reasons.


But he did say the practice helps fuel the 18-year-old
civil war in Somalia as companies are paying Somali
government ministers to dump their waste,

or to secure licences and contracts.

"There is no government control ...
and there are few people with high moral ground ...
[and] yes, people in high positions are being paid off,

but because of the fragility of the TFG [Transitional Federal Government],
some of these companies now no longer ask the authorities –
they simply dump their waste and leave."

Ould-Abdallah said there are ethical questions to be
considered because the companies are negotiating
contracts with a government that is largely divided
along tribal lines.

"How can you negotiate these dealings with a country at war
and with a government struggling to remain relevant?"


-

In 1992, a contract to secure the dumping of toxic waste
was made by Swiss and Italian shipping firms Achair Partners and Progresso,


with Nur Elmi Osman, a former official
appointed to the government of Ali Mahdi Mohamed,
one of many militia leaders involved in the ousting
of Mohamed Siad Barre, Somalia's former president.

At the request of the Swiss and Italian governments,
UNEP investigated the matter.

Both firms had denied entering into any agreement with
militia leaders at the beginning of the Somali civil war.

Osman also denied signing any contract.

.

'Mafia involvement'

However, Mustafa Tolba, the former UNEP executive director,
told Al Jazeera that he discovered the firms were set up as
fictitious companies by larger industrial firms to dispose
of hazardous waste.

"At the time, it felt like we were dealing with the Mafia,
or some sort of organised crime group, possibly working
with these industrial firms," he said.

Nations have found it difficult to tackle
the problem of piracy [AFP]

"It was very shady, and quite underground,
and I would agree with Ould-Abdallah’s claims that it is
still going on...

Unfortunately the war has not allowed environmental groups to investigate this fully."

The Italian mafia controls an estimated 30 per cent
of Italy's waste disposal companies, including those
that deal with toxic waste.


In 1998, Famiglia Cristiana, an Italian weekly magazine, claimed that although most of the waste-dumping took place
after the start of the civil war in 1991, the activity
actually began as early as 1989 under the Barre government.

Beyond the ethical question of trying to secure a hazardous
waste agreement in an unstable country like Somalia,
the alleged attempt by Swiss and Italian firms to dump
waste in Somalia would violate international treaties
to which both countries are signatories.

Legal ramifications

Switzerland and Italy signed and ratified the Basel
Convention on the Control of Transboundary Movements
of Hazardous Wastes and their Disposal,
which came into force in 1992.

EU member states, as well as 168 other countries have also signed the agreement.

The convention prohibits waste trade between countries
that have signed the convention, as well as countries
that have not signed the accord unless a bilateral
agreement had been negotiated.

It is also prohibits the shipping of hazardous waste to a war zone.


Abdi Ismail Samatar, professor of Geography at the
University of Minnesota, told Al Jazeera that because
an international coalition of warships has been deployed
to the Gulf of Aden, the alleged dumping of waste must
have been observed.

Environmental damage

"If these acts are continuing, then surely they must have
been seen by someone involved in maritime operations,"
he said.

"Is the cargo aimed at a certain destination more important
than monitoring illegal activities in the region?

Piracy is not the only problem for Somalia,
and I think it's irresponsible on the part of the
authorities to overlook this issue."

Mohammed Gure, chairman of the Somalia Concern Group,
said that the social and environmental consequences will
be felt for decades.


"The Somali coastline used to sustain hundreds of thousands of people,
as a source of food and livelihoods.

Now much of it is almost destroyed, primarily at the hands
of these so-called ministers that have sold their nation
to fill their own pockets."

Ould-Abdallah said piracy will not prevent waste dumping.

"The intentions of these pirates are not concerned
with protecting their environment," he said.

"What is ultimately needed is a functioning,
effective government that will get its act together
and take control of its affairs."

.
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Astrology? Wow! Then that explains Miss Cleo, huh? Wait! Didn't they put her in jail for tax evasion?

Nobody gives a damn about the whole African continent. Not even black people.

That is why we can expect massive suffering in our own lives because we negate and deny the basic truth that we are all connected and everyones suffering and basic needs are connected.



You've got a whole continent inhabited with people who have an IQ of 60 to 70.


you bitch ass muthafucka africa is the origin of ALL common knowledge including the metric system and astrology!!
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*This reply is no threat, nor is it meant to be misunderstood nor construed, twisted, bent or otherwise shaped into something it is not. It is not idle nor deliberate nor meant to be taken in any kind of way that would implicate anything other than thoughts of marshmallow clouds, spring mountains or anything else pleasant, yet not illegal. Also note anything you say or do in reply, whether positive, pissed off, bent out of shape or distressed in any human form (disregarding on record mental illnesses) can be held against you in a court of law. Let it further be known that if someone leaves a response that I find derogatory, I reserve the right to piss and moan, cuss, kick objects that don't breath, (sorry PETA) and throw a general temper tantrum without be held responsible for any actions I may say or act out upon
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Astrology? Wow! Then that explains Miss Cleo, huh? Wait! Didn't they put her in jail for tax evasion?





Nobody gives a damn about the whole African continent. Not even black people.

That is why we can expect massive suffering in our own lives because we negate and deny the basic truth that we are all connected and everyones suffering and basic needs are connected.



You've got a whole continent inhabited with people who have an IQ of 60 to 70.


you bitch ass muthafucka africa is the origin of ALL common knowledge including the metric system and astrology!!

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stupid cracka.

astrology AND astronomy. both are different aspects of the same things.
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Yes stupidity - they do not know ANYTHING these poor imbecils.

Astrology has like most other science been dumbed down -
to make it look 'useless' - only because all that has power
in this hell-hole called human civilisation, has been twisted around

look at all the religions,
look at information in school (lies in physics)
in medicine, in EVERY single area of 'official' governmental source
is

LYING to the human population.

The 'stupid idiots' are brainwashed and filled with fear -

it is the reason why they attack, as good dogs, controlled by their owner.

They dream about freedom, and a better life, they complain,

meanwhile they obey the system they despice, and lash out on their fellow human citizens.

Afraid not only of being exposed themselves, hiding behind anonymous avatars, attacking everyone and anything that shows a human emotion -

they are afraid of their own shadow and would never last one minute in the REAL initiation of TRUE rites...

they fear AND worship their gods

they fear AND worship their starvisitors

they fear AND worship their authorities

they fear AND worship their addictions

and they are SLAVES under them all -

accusing everything and everyone else of their misery,

passive or direct confrontational aggressive,

complaining and acting out in despair, hate, hopelessness,

suffering and filled with rage or emtpiness inside,

longing for things they cant even spell to or dare dream of

cuz they see no end of this prison existance..

passive instead of active creation to bring forth a change

they simply demand as spoiled children to be served

meanwhile they feed of others emotions, effort and lives.

this is a society filled with energy vampires,

the living dead.


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Christian
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Satan is falling from the skys. he is polluting the waters according to the bible prophecys.
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According to the bible al the nations would unify and fish the seadragon out of the sea and throw him on the lands!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553433

antibs
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01/09/2009 08:08 PM
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Does he have photographic evidence of the toxic waste?

Photos probably show up best taken in the dark..
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04/09/2009 04:04 AM
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Anonymous Coward
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04/09/2009 04:34 AM
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Thanks for the original OP. Very interesting as I think most people are aware that something is amiss with the official information we're being given about the pirates.

How about the land pirates that are looting the tax payers at the moment?! Seems that's ok......
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Most of the pirates are thieves, nothing more. The article seems to be excusing extortion and kidnapping in the fine tradition of pass the blame and pass the buck from the criminal to whatever or whomever is available. You'll find that it always turns out to be America's fault, so let's blame America first. If there's some kind of Bhopal situation that harms the people of Somalia, investigate it in a fair court of law and give just compensation to the victims. I'm a bit skeptical, though, since I sense an agenda at work here.
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The thought of a few pirates being able to sail out hundreds of miles into the sea, hijack a liner, then sail off into the sunset unchallenged, is laughable. This is what happened last time. The ships started sailing much further away from the Somalia coast, but the pirates still sailed out and got them.

Last time this was going on, China, Sweden, Italy, Russia and others were sending warships out to patrol the area, and 'protect' the cargo liners.

Sorcha Faal, although an attention seeking fraud, clearly has a much better theory than pirates, with his Gulf of Eden Anunnaki Portal being opened.
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So, who are the fish being illegally trawled out of Somalia's toxic seas being fed to?

And more importantly, are Somali fish immune to toxic waste and just act as radioactive carriers to whoever consumes them?
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04/09/2009 08:45 AM
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So, who are the fish being illegally trawled out of Somalia's toxic seas being fed to?

And more importantly, are Somali fish immune to toxic waste and just act as radioactive carriers to whoever consumes them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653391


Here's a link
[link to illegal-fishing.info]

The countless tonnes of toxic waste I imagine was in
sealed containers but the 2004 tsunami pulled a fair amount
to the surface and if the seals on the containers
failed then that is how the toxic waste
would have leaked into the sea.
All Somalians and their children whose health
has been affected
by the toxic waste would under normal
circumstances have the right to full compensation
from the countries the waste originated from.



Separate from that but still the same scene
is the fact that the asians and chinese
have been raping the coastal seas of Somalia of
fish stocks.It's their culture to take every fucking
sea critter they can haul in, doesnt matter
if small large or microscopic whatever ..
it is free for the taking!
They live for today and fuck you or anyone else.
Fair go if it's free they just take it unless
strict laws are enacted prohibiting or limiting
fishing or trawling and even then they
cannot be trusted so you would need fast moving vessels
manned by armed professionals ( call them pirates!)
to deal to the fuckers!
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bump for more information


as many THINGS ARE NOT AS THEY SEEM or as the OWNed media promulgates



bump for the truth to be known and the cwhorporations stop contaminating the entire planet for their profits $$$$$$$$$$
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My Crock-o-Shit meter is pinging to the max.
Thugs is thugs.
~Love to eat them mousies. Mousies what I love to eat...
Bite they little heads off..nibble on they tiny feet~
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04/09/2009 01:23 PM
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Nice find OP!

bump
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[link to www.youtube.com]

Here is the real deal on the pirates.
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kinda makes you wonder when they send warships to fight with pirates....
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They are doing this for power and wealth, no other reason.
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