View to a kill: Israel preparing battlespace for Fatah to take on Hamas in Gaza? | |
D. Bunker 01/05/2009 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatI agree that Israel prefers to deal with Fatah an Abbas, but I suspect the road is very unclear to bringing such a plan to fruition. I believe the indications are Israel will seek to completely crush Hamas and may possibly plan to preemptively engage Hezbollah. One major objective will most certainly be to regain the fear factor lost in 2006. :savetata: Favorite Quote - "I just fucking love outer space, it has all those planets and stars and shit." - Mister Obvious 2009 |
ANNONYMOUS User ID: 546346 ![]() 02/02/2009 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() Onteresting speculation GOG. As I recall during the hostilities there were rumblings from HamAss about the PA riding on on Israeli Tanks as if that would ever happen. Also the stories and video of HamAss killing and maiming suspected PA sympathizers before and during the incursion indicates that they are clearly afraid of just such a scenario. |
The StarBuck User ID: 606507 ![]() 02/03/2009 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Relax and have some more of this new smoke, just came in off our govt. sponsored plane, all your problems magically go away. :49: |
Rota User ID: 605726 ![]() 02/03/2009 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The primary immediate aim of the Israeli offensive on Hamas in the Gaza Strip is to halt, or more realistically, to reduce the rate of rocket attacks on the Israeli population. Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatBS. Israel had a cease fire that hamas was not breaking until Israel went in and assainated 6 Hmas leaders. It was at this point that the Hizballification of Hamas and its Gaza territory commenced full speed ahead, with Iran overseeing the arming, training and funding of significant Hamas weapons and tactics upgrades. Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatHamas was funded and trained and given weapons and tactics upgrades? Ha Ha What a load of crap. Where was all this stuff when Israel invaded Gaza? Hamas had nothing. Israel suffered 12 fatalities and admitted that most of those were friendly fire. There is nothing that indicates Hamas had any weapons except primitive garbage they have always had. Though there are significant risks for Israel in partnering with Mamoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) and the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority, the alternative is either a) direct, costly and prolonged Israeli operations inside Gaza; b) intermittent Israeli combat excursions against Hamas in Gaza with no end in sight; or c) continued disengagement, ceding to Hamas unmitigated and unchallenged terrorist buildup under the guiding eye of the Iranian mullah regime until it truly becomes Hizballah South (in a military/terrorist capabilities sense, not the theological or ideological sense.) And each of these options fails to achieve the elimination of rocket attacks on Israel's civilian population, increasingly at risk as the Iranian-supplied rockets improve and extend Hamas' reach deeper into Israel So now you admit israel is going to fund Fatah....a group they used to say were terrorists just like they now call Hamas. sounds like to me Israel took too much heat and bad PR for slaughting the people of Gaza. Now they want Fatah to do their dirty work. This goes way beyond stopping bottle rockets. Israel has probably bought off some corrupt Fatah leaders and control them. What have they agreed to hand over to israel if they take contol of Gaza back from Hamas? The oil fields they just discovered off the shore of Gaza? Is that why Israel refuses to stop the Slaughter? However, the reality is that if Fatah were to take up fighting Hamas for primacy in Gaza, the international community would hardly bat an eye. And, for Israel, the objective for securing its civilian population against incessant terrorist rocket attacks is the elimination of Hamas as the chief power broker inside Gaza. And if Israel will never be afforded the time and space necessary to do this and Fatah would be, then Israel - which at least works with Fatah in the West Bank, however imperfectly - likely sees the wisdom in assisting and empowering Fatah in achieving just that capability in Gaza.. Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatSounds like the reality is Israel has Fatah in their back pocket. So if international political protest prevents the sustained Israeli operations necessary to significantly de-fang Hamas in Gaza, yet the world would not bat an eye at Fatah fighting to achieve the same ends, the logical strategic conclusion is to assist them in doing just that. Considering the longer view of things, this is exactly what Israel seems quite prepared to do. As your writer previously concluded in a brief look at the situation at The Tank on National Review Online, "There are two ways to fight Hamas. This, I believe, is Israel's preferred method." Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatThats right...Israel always does exactly what it whats to do. It will never take orders or suggestions from anyone. They are a rogue nation. They kill who they want one way or another. . |
Prof_Rabbit User ID: 148352 ![]() 02/03/2009 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A View To A Kill Quoting: Grizzled Old GoatWhy Israel Is Likely Preparing Future Fatah Battlespace Against Hamas in Gaza By Steve Schippert | January 5, 2009 Sure, the IDF would like that, they could go in after and shoot the wounded, they are so good at killing women and children, the maimed and wounded will suit them to a T! "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 606723 ![]() 02/03/2009 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are the new demons and doncha just know that Iran's a real backward country full of crazy religious loons. Not really .. apparently it is a very large modern country and the people very caring and friendly or so I heard from tourist who went there on holiday less than six months ago. - |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 605163 ![]() 02/03/2009 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Palestinians and even the Iranians should be very concerned about their future. They have been tageted by a pathological group. The inhuman cabal has no moral restraint in this act of biblical genocide. Make war by way of deceit. Every event that occurs in this conflict is more than likely a hoax or a red herring perpertrated by war mongers. Including but not limited to the rocket attacks on them in territory they have invaded. |