First Adam Was Natural Man (Slave)!! Thanks to the Serpent, Second Adam Became A Spiritual Man!!

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And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. (1Cor 15:45)







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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal)

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

Hello HT. How are you doing today.
Hey friend, I think you missed this one.
I will point out Eccl. chapter 12: verse's 6 and 7.
There should something said about the "first spiritual man" as spoken of in Job. 38:7 when God tells Job, Hey bud, don't you remember when everyone was together rejoicing.
The first Adam is of this dispensation. The second Adam is what is written in Eccl. chapter 12:7.
Simple to understand, yet many fail to see the truth.
So HT< sorry friend, you missed this one. Nice try tho! lol

Hello HT. How are you doing today.
Hey friend, I think you missed this one.
I will point out Eccl. chapter 12: verse's 6 and 7.
There should something said about the "first spiritual man" as spoken of in Job. 38:7 when God tells Job, Hey bud, don't you remember when everyone was together rejoicing.
The first Adam is of this dispensation. The second Adam is what is written in Eccl. chapter 12:7.
Simple to understand, yet many fail to see the truth.
So HT< sorry friend, you missed this one. Nice try tho! lol


Eccl. 12:
6: Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
7: Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Yes, when the silver cord is broken the spirit returns!!

The silver cord is what ties the spiritual to the flesh!!

The NDE and the silver cord!!
[link to www.near-death.com]

With all due respect, I don't think I've misunderstood anything here!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal)

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

Hello HT. How are you doing today.
Hey friend, I think you missed this one.
I will point out Eccl. chapter 12: verse's 6 and 7.
There should something said about the "first spiritual man" as spoken of in Job. 38:7 when God tells Job, Hey bud, don't you remember when everyone was together rejoicing.
The first Adam is of this dispensation. The second Adam is what is written in Eccl. chapter 12:7.
Simple to understand, yet many fail to see the truth.
So HT< sorry friend, you missed this one. Nice try tho! lol


Eccl. 12:
6: Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
7: Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Yes, when the silver cord is broken the spirit returns!!

The silver cord is what ties the spiritual to the flesh!!

The NDE and the silver cord!!
[link to www.near-death.com]

With all due respect, I don't think I've misunderstood anything here!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal)

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

Hello HT. How are you doing today.
Hey friend, I think you missed this one.
I will point out Eccl. chapter 12: verse's 6 and 7.
There should something said about the "first spiritual man" as spoken of in Job. 38:7 when God tells Job, Hey bud, don't you remember when everyone was together rejoicing.
The first Adam is of this dispensation. The second Adam is what is written in Eccl. chapter 12:7.
Simple to understand, yet many fail to see the truth.
So HT< sorry friend, you missed this one. Nice try tho! lol


Eccl. 12:
6: Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
7: Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Yes, when the silver cord is broken the spirit returns!!

The silver cord is what ties the spiritual to the flesh!!

The NDE and the silver cord!!
[link to www.near-death.com]

With all due respect, I don't think I've misunderstood anything here!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal)

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

I guess the way I am looking at you posting HT> is that you gave two scriptures and then told us what it means.
I guess the part I am trying to have you see is the word "spirit".
This part of verse 7 of Ecc. 12 "spirit shall return unto God"
Just as Rev. 6:9 to 11 tells of those that have died and have gone to heaven. "Those under the alter of God" is what I am talking about. (They are not under the alter, but that means under God protection and with God).
So the first Adam was "Spiritual" as Job 38:7 says. The second Adam is this dispensation, and the third Adam is Spiritual again and in Heaven!
Is that what you mean HT, or am I off base here too?
Thanks my friend for responding. I like you posting. You keep folks humpin' into the truth of the beginning. I like that in your postings. Good stuff for them to gather in.
I hope your day is going good HT. I wonder how many will object to what both of us have said today. lol

And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

We were created to be in service to the gods, other ancient texts confirm the one in genesis!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged." (See link; The Earth Without the Moon:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
"I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

Hello HT. How are you doing today.
Hey friend, I think you missed this one.
I will point out Eccl. chapter 12: verse's 6 and 7.
There should something said about the "first spiritual man" as spoken of in Job. 38:7 when God tells Job, Hey bud, don't you remember when everyone was together rejoicing.
The first Adam is of this dispensation. The second Adam is what is written in Eccl. chapter 12:7.
Simple to understand, yet many fail to see the truth.
So HT< sorry friend, you missed this one. Nice try tho! lol


Eccl. 12:
6: Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
7: Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Yes, when the silver cord is broken the spirit returns!!

The silver cord is what ties the spiritual to the flesh!!

The NDE and the silver cord!!
[link to www.near-death.com]

With all due respect, I don't think I've misunderstood anything here!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal)

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

I guess the way I am looking at you posting HT> is that you gave two scriptures and then told us what it means.
I guess the part I am trying to have you see is the word "spirit".
This part of verse 7 of Ecc. 12 "spirit shall return unto God"
Just as Rev. 6:9 to 11 tells of those that have died and have gone to heaven. "Those under the alter of God" is what I am talking about. (They are not under the alter, but that means under God protection and with God).
So the first Adam was "Spiritual" as Job 38:7 says. The second Adam is this dispensation, and the third Adam is Spiritual again and in Heaven!
Is that what you mean HT, or am I off base here too?
Thanks my friend for responding. I like you posting. You keep folks humpin' into the truth of the beginning. I like that in your postings. Good stuff for them to gather in.
I hope your day is going good HT. I wonder how many will object to what both of us have said today. lol


Going by your scriptures, we were created to till the ground (natural man)!!

And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

We were created to be in service to the gods, other ancient texts confirm the one in genesis!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged." (See link; The Earth Without the Moon:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
"I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

We were forbidden to partake of the tree of knowledge!!

We BECAME as god after the fact, not fell, but became as one of them (gods), according to your scriptures!!


We rose above our intended station, not by the will of YHVH, but by the will of others including Adam and Eve!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal)

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

Hello HT. How are you doing today.
Hey friend, I think you missed this one.
I will point out Eccl. chapter 12: verse's 6 and 7.
There should something said about the "first spiritual man" as spoken of in Job. 38:7 when God tells Job, Hey bud, don't you remember when everyone was together rejoicing.
The first Adam is of this dispensation. The second Adam is what is written in Eccl. chapter 12:7.
Simple to understand, yet many fail to see the truth.
So HT< sorry friend, you missed this one. Nice try tho! lol


Eccl. 12:
6: Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
7: Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Yes, when the silver cord is broken the spirit returns!!

The silver cord is what ties the spiritual to the flesh!!

The NDE and the silver cord!!
[link to www.near-death.com]

With all due respect, I don't think I've misunderstood anything here!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal)

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

I guess the way I am looking at you posting HT> is that you gave two scriptures and then told us what it means.
I guess the part I am trying to have you see is the word "spirit".
This part of verse 7 of Ecc. 12 "spirit shall return unto God"
Just as Rev. 6:9 to 11 tells of those that have died and have gone to heaven. "Those under the alter of God" is what I am talking about. (They are not under the alter, but that means under God protection and with God).
So the first Adam was "Spiritual" as Job 38:7 says. The second Adam is this dispensation, and the third Adam is Spiritual again and in Heaven!
Is that what you mean HT, or am I off base here too?
Thanks my friend for responding. I like you posting. You keep folks humpin' into the truth of the beginning. I like that in your postings. Good stuff for them to gather in.
I hope your day is going good HT. I wonder how many will object to what both of us have said today. lol


Going by your scriptures, we were created to till the ground (natural man)!!

And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

We were created to be in service to the gods, other ancient texts confirm the one in genesis!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged." (See link; The Earth Without the Moon:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
"I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)

We were forbidden to partake of the tree of knowledge!!

We BECAME as god after the fact, not fell, but became as one of them (gods), according to your scriptures!!


We rose above our intended station, not by the will of YHVH, but by the will of others including Adam and Eve!!

___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal)

"There is no religion higher than TRUTH"

"The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity"

Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...

"Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides)

I understand now what you are getting at. Got it!
I just want to point out again, that the spiritual body came first, then the flesh, than back into the spiritual body we shall go. That is my understanding of all of this.

I know all about the what Rabbi Moses Manimonides and the writings. Plus as you know I have studied much of what you are presenting here on glp a long time ago.
Don't you think Harold Wallace Posenthal words are supposition only, HT? That is how I took it when I read his writings. Oh well, does not matter to me one way or another.

And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

We were created to be in service to the gods, other ancient texts confirm the one in genesis!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged." (See link; The Earth Without the Moon:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
"I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)



.........Would the above be considered a "belief tossed salad?"

And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (Gen 2:5)

We were created to be in service to the gods, other ancient texts confirm the one in genesis!!

"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged." (See link; The Earth Without the Moon:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
"I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily, savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of the Gods, that they might be at ease." (Sumerian Creation Epic)

Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked, to be remembered in earth? We have tried with our first creatures, but we could not make them venerate us. So then, let us try to make obedient, respectful beings, who shall nourish and sustain us. (The Maya Popul Vuh)



.........Would the above be considered a "belief tossed salad?"


Would seem that way, yes!!

But, do they not all have that common theme, including genesis, man created for the service of the gods?

lol...
This is all giving me a migraine today for some reason!!

lol...
This is all giving me a migraine today for some reason!!


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