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The international Red Cross said Tuesday that Israel has fired white phosphorus shells in its offensive in the Gaza Strip, but has no evidence to suggest it is being used improperly or illegally.

The comments came after a human rights organization accused the Jewish state of using the incendiary agent, which ignites when it strikes the skin and burns straight through or until it is cut off from oxygen. It can cause horrific injuries.

The International Committee of the Red Cross urged Israel to exercise "extreme caution" in using the incendiary agent, which is used to illuminate targets at night or create a smoke screen for day attacks, said Peter Herby, the head of the organization's mines-arms unit.

"In some of the strikes in Gaza it's pretty clear that phosphorus was used," Herby told The Associated Press. "But it's not very unusual to use phosphorus to create smoke or illuminate a target. We have no evidence to suggest it's being used in any other way."

In response, the IDF said Tuesday that it "wishes to reiterate that it uses weapons in compliance with international law, while strictly observing that they be used in accordance with the type of combat and its characteristics."

Herby said that using phosphorus to illuminate a target or create smoke is legitimate under international law, and that there was no evidence the Jewish state was intentionally using phosphorus in a questionable way, such as burning down buildings or consciously putting civilians at risk.

[link to www.jpost.com]
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What if they were using white phosphorus on cats?

Bet you'd have your panties all twisted up then, eh?

Why not just pretend that the civilians in gaza are cats? You wouldnt be any less delusional than you are now.

What about the IDF using Palestinian children as human sheilds?

Thread: Israel uses Palestians as human sheilds! (VIDEO)

Is that illegal?
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What if they were using white phosphorus on cats?

Bet you'd have your panties all twisted up then, eh?

Why not just pretend that the civilians in gaza are cats? You wouldnt be any less delusional than you are now.

What about the IDF using Palestinian children as human sheilds?

Thread: Israel uses Palestians as human sheilds! (VIDEO)

Is that illegal?
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What about the IDF using Palestinian children as human sheilds?

no its not illegal beacuse the palis do it better flip
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If you're not phosphorus, you're phos against us.
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Yeah, I heard they hit the Palestine Zoo with the stuff. Lion cubs n stuff. Awful.
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And who runs the red cross?
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Yeah, I heard they hit the Palestine Zoo with the stuff. Lion cubs n stuff. Awful.
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Well, now that does it. Phosphorous so they can find the zoo? Animal rights? Kittens? Puppies? Cubs? Seared to the ground, clinging to their mothers ... all liquified.

Stupid animals...must have voted for Hamas and are harboring terrorists under their litter boxes and inside their dog houses.

Oh well, war isn't fun, but somebody's got to do it.
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Whether or not this constitutes illegal use of WP is ultimately something for the International Crime Court ("the Hague tribunal") to decide. Not the Red Cross...

The same goes for all the other alleged war crimes committed not only in the current war against Gaza but also during previous armed conflicts like the war against Lebanon a few years ago.

According to the ICC faq,
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The International Criminal Court will complement national courts so that they retain jurisdiction to try genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.

[...]

Proceedings before the ICC may be initiated by a State Party, the Prosecutor or the United Nations Security Council.

The jurisdiction of the ICC is based on "complementarity", which allows national courts the first opportunity to investigate or prosecute."
[link to www.icc-cpi.int]

According to this source, only if Israel is considered "unwilling or unable" to investigate or prosecute it will go to the ICC:

"A country may be determined to be "unwilling" if it is clearly shielding someone from responsibility for ICC crimes. A country may be "unable" when its legal system has collapsed."

Let's hope proceedings before the ICC can be initiated as soon as possible to straighten out all these question marks about what is to be considered "legal" vs "illegal" warfare in these cases. There is no other way.

/L
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OH NOOOOOOOOOOO

Looks like the parastic tribe has payed off some key people within the red cross..

YIPPIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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OH NOOOOOOOOOOO

Looks like the parastic tribe has payed off some key people within the red cross..

YIPPIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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you paid palestinian shills are hilarious!
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haha yeah palestine cant get aid in, but they get money out to pay us.

Will you stop at nothing to protect your delusion?
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I bet this story put a dent in the Palestinian shills day..lol

This one and the vote came out today too.
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The international Red Cross said Tuesday that Israel has fired white phosphorus shells in its offensive in the Gaza Strip, but has no evidence to suggest it is being used improperly or illegally.
 Quoting: LS




I am 100% positive the pictures drudge smeared all over the web is proof enough if thoey choice. You simply don't see 'spider' shells go off in the air above the buildings across the sky. They even had one laying on the ground that failed to trigger sooner. : /


No proof? Pffft.
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What if they were using white phosphorus on cats?

Bet you'd have your panties all twisted up then, eh?

Why not just pretend that the civilians in gaza are cats? You wouldnt be any less delusional than you are now.

What about the IDF using Palestinian children as human sheilds?

Thread: Israel uses Palestians as human sheilds! (VIDEO)

Is that illegal?

What about the IDF using Palestinian children as human sheilds?

no its not illegal beacuse the palis do it better flip
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Just ask 'em!

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Damn it must be nice to own the media outlets as well as the relief agencies.
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Yeah, I heard they hit the Palestine Zoo with the stuff. Lion cubs n stuff. Awful.
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Yeah I heard nothing you say is true lol flip
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I bet this story put a dent in the Palestinian shills day..lol

This one and the vote came out today too.

 Quoting: Phoenix 2012

here's a good one too.

"Our economy has been deteriorating ever since Arafat came on the scene in '94," says Ramallah-based Bir Zeit University professor Mudar Kassis. "People had been waiting for something to happen that would improve the daily life of the Palestinians. Instead, the suffering has mounted, and the highest GNP per capita in our history still dates back to 1991."
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Way to go LS.... You have really raised the bar on this one! You should be proud of yourself.
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If the ICRC is chosing sides in a conflict then the workers become LEGITIMATE MILITARY TARGETS.

They already were heavily bombed, rocketed and cluster bombed by Israel in Lebannon, so now they are kissing their boots.

Expect more dead Red Cross workers world wide.

I wonder what Medcins Sans Frontiers thinks of the ICRC stand?
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The international Red Cross said Tuesday that Israel has fired white phosphorus shells in its offensive in the Gaza Strip, but has no evidence to suggest it is being used improperly or illegally.

The comments came after a human rights organization accused the Jewish state of using the incendiary agent, which ignites when it strikes the skin and burns straight through or until it is cut off from oxygen. It can cause horrific injuries.

The International Committee of the Red Cross urged Israel to exercise "extreme caution" in using the incendiary agent, which is used to illuminate targets at night or create a smoke screen for day attacks, said Peter Herby, the head of the organization's mines-arms unit.

"In some of the strikes in Gaza it's pretty clear that phosphorus was used," Herby told The Associated Press. "But it's not very unusual to use phosphorus to create smoke or illuminate a target. We have no evidence to suggest it's being used in any other way."

In response, the IDF said Tuesday that it "wishes to reiterate that it uses weapons in compliance with international law, while strictly observing that they be used in accordance with the type of combat and its characteristics."

Herby said that using phosphorus to illuminate a target or create smoke is legitimate under international law, and that there was no evidence the Jewish state was intentionally using phosphorus in a questionable way, such as burning down buildings or consciously putting civilians at risk.

[link to www.jpost.com]
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There is no justification for it's use in such a heavily populated area.

No evidence of consciously putting civilians at risk? Is this guy a moron?

They are using it in a heavily civilian populated area.

That Herby guy is an israfel shill.

What a totasl moron can't tell the difference between open countryside and a heavily populated city.
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I see Israeli agents have amended the Wikipedia article to accuse Hamas of using White Phosphorus mortar shell (one) in an act called a "war crime":

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"The Christian Science Monitor reported on January 14, 2009, that evidence according to Norwegian doctor Mads Gilbert indicates that white phosphorus shells are being used by Israel in the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict and that shells are exploding over populated civilian refugee camps.[22]

On the other hand, the The International Red Cross has said that although Israel has fired white phosphorus shells in its offensive in the Gaza Strip, there is no evidence to suggest it is being used improperly or illegally.[23] Peter Herby, the head of the organization's mines-arms unit has stated, "In some of the strikes in Gaza it's pretty clear that phosphorus was used," "But it's not very unusual to use phosphorus to create smoke or illuminate a target. We have no evidence to suggest it's being used in any other way." Herby further said that using phosphorus to illuminate a target or create smoke is legitimate under international law, and that there was no evidence that Israel was intentionally using phosphorus in a questionable way, such as burning down buildings or consciously putting civilians at risk. However, in the same interview, Herby also pointed out that the opportunity to obtain concrete information was still difficult because of a lack of access to Gaza. The organization Human Rights Watch has claimed that White phosphorus injuries are suspected in the cases of ten burn victims, who had "skin peeling off their faces and bodies".[23]

On January 14th Hamas fired a White Phosphorus mortar shell upon the an Israeli Settlement, Sufa, illegally.[24]"


Red Cross kissing Israel's ass. I wonder if they also give them money?

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Does anyone remember a few years back when the Red Cross chapter that Cindy McCain ran was missing millions in donations ? Is she Jewish ?"
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torture = extraordinary rendition
white phosphorus = extraordinary illumination
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israel are a bunch of cat murderers.
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Israel is hiding behind America, America supplied these horrific weapons at a high cost to the American taxpayer.


As far as I am concerned, Israel has wiped the slate clean, they are the new nazi's and as such any and all war crimes should be punishable by death.
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[link to www.guardian.co.uk]

Israel's free ride ends
As Israel pulverises Gaza, questions and doubts about Israeli policy are becoming more prominent in the American media
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WOW, "The International RED CROSS said . . . " blah blah

You know who owns the Red Cross ?

You know who owns the Salvation army ?
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i dont understnad how white phosphrous shells landing on people is not illegal. i thought killing innocent civilians including children who r walking to school is illegal.Is the redcross not aware of how it burns the skin, gradually, all the way to the bone? tht is simply inhumane. peace
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I bet this story put a dent in the Palestinian shills day..lol

This one and the vote came out today too.

 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


The Red Cross said that only 350,000 Jews died in Hitler's concentration camps.
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Americans must become single-minded about this critically important issue. When it becomes SELF-EVIDENT that Israel did 911 and that Zionists (Israeli and Israeli/American and American) are really ENEMIES of America, American patriots must separate the chaff from the wheat and BURN the chaff.

When Israel attacked America on 911, it effectively declared WAR on America (like the Japan did on December 7 - Pearl Harbor). ALL Zionists within America must be ARRESTED and put on TRIAL for TREASON. Israel must be DESTROYED - before it DESTROYS America! Of course, Yahweh may well "beat America to the punch" (Ezekiel 22:20).
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WOW, "The International RED CROSS said . . . " blah blah

You know who owns the Red Cross ?

You know who owns the Salvation army ?
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