It's an injustice to NOT marry girls aged 10 : Saudi's most senior cleric

The Idea of a "forced" marriage came about with modernism. Before, it would'nt have been an issue, parents pick your husband, period. Its common for a girl to be "married" to a man, and he not sleep with her for many years. Your not going to walk down the street and find a ton of 10 year olds pregnant, many are 17 or older and MARRIED. MOST marriages were arranged int he past, if the father chose a 60 year old man, deal wiht it, im sure he would'nt pcik a man he thought would harm his daughter. Now in america, I can find PLENTY of 13 and 14 year olds on welfare with babies, FACT.

'Doesn't matter.... That's the basic gist of what you're saying.

Im not that old, let me tell you, the girls I went to school with no mroe than 6 years ago, were all about sex. Not everyone has gotten abused/molested, theres always an excuse. Maybe America shuld teach some self dignity and respect, seperate the girls from boys ins chool, stop your daughters from going to parties and posting public profiles, get some respect for themselves. A LOT of women speak about being rapes and molested from the late 1800s and early 1900's, they went on to get married, NOT become whores, its all in the media and lifestyle nowadays.

But......we are talking here about girls aged 10. And forced into marriage, basically

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It does matter, why dont you speak fully on what I said and tell me where I have a problem? Yes I have a problem when the little hussey down the street is 17 with 3 kids on welfare, yes I have a problem with the sexuality and exposure and exploitation of and pushed to young girls in america.

The AC is confused or just a Muslim shill

So.....The parents want her to be married/promised to a 50-60 year old man, whats it to anybody? Its not your kid, who best to look out for her interest than her parents? The man does'nt sleep with her until she is OF MATURITY, and then to, those men arent perverts like the rest of these porn watching bastards. Condemn the parents for choosing a 50 year old man instead of letting her choose mr. don juan smooth, get ya pregnant at 15 with sweet talk and leave ya.


Activists say the girls are given away in return for hefty dowries or as a result of long-standing custom in which a father promises his infant daughters and sons to cousins out of a belief that marriage will protect them from illicit relationships.

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Explain why im a shill, and explain what is wrong with anything I said. I've been here for 8 years +, not a newbie.

We're just as sick here-it just comes out differently. The whole human race is sick!

This is old, but this is the type of people we are dealing with. I think we should unite to rid the world of this Islamic cancer. I question anyone who defends what they say. I would totally support removing ALL children from muslim parents.


[link to www.iran-press-service.com]

Oh, yes I found several news reports where MOTHERS in american have had their daughter SLEEP/SCREW their boyfriends so they woud'nt leave them, real righteous huh? America is a vey sick place, you just dont have people down your throughts calling you names, but this is a sick place. Kids get exploited here and many other places BADLY, thos e parent ARE NOT marrying their children off in a perverted manner, they are doing what they've dont for 100's of years, when she hit maturity, maybe not even that soon, then she is given to her husband, NOT to become a whore, a burden.

Because as the OP pointed out the story is about 10 yr old girls and in the context of the post which is Saudi Arabia, where forced marriages do happen and in fact a girl can't get married without her fathers permission...even if she's 30. But you ignore all of this and keep spouting why this isn't bad and trying to justify it by citing examples of teen preg.


Ever hear of 2 wrongs don't make a right?

I dont agree wiht ALL their judgements, but who is ANYBODY in america to judge? How many american parents have shot,stabbed,killed their own children? Oh yeah, o righteous american, take somebody elses kid, so they can be put through the american foster care system, abused raped and forgotten? How about leave them the fuck alone and worry about your own demented people. Ameircn women putting babies in microwaves, throwing them off bridges, stuffin them in suitcases, leaving them in toilets, drowning them in the bathtub. Id tell americans to stay 1000 miles away, dont touch anything of mines, worry about your own sick country.

Some people here are really sick. You pro-child-marriage folks need help badly.

As a woman, technically I could say that at 14 I would have been able to have kids, but I didn't have sex during that time and had no intentions of being a young mother. I might have been physically built for it, but not mature enough for it. There was only one girl in my time who was already a mother and a few others who just aborted God knows how many times. These were just a few girls in comparison to probably over 300 girls in the school. High school was different. Most girls that did get pregnant were at least 15-18, 18 being of legal age of consent. That seems like a normal age for women in many cultures, incl. the American culture. (BTW, I'm American of hispanic origin.) But knowing my own anatomy, emotional, and mental constitution and knowing my 11 y/o's also, we both at these ages had no interest or knowledge of what sex really was. And I will be keeping a very close eye on my daughter until she's too old for me to legally have any say.

Words of advice. Keep your eyes on your kids. Know who their friends are. Homeschool them if you can so that they can avoid the peer pressure, but get them to participate in group activities that they enjoy. Encourage them in the areas where they're strongest at. Most of all, love and appreciate them for WHO THEY ARE as an individual.

Umm no, I read the article, its not ALL about a 10 year old being "forced" into marriage. Im not going to speak in 1 direction, without talking about the other. so what she cant get married without her fathers permission? In the bible itself a father chose the husband, if you wnat freedom of choice, thats your business, but dont try to exploit your "new" ways on other people. Next thing you know, they'll have a nation of welfare whores just like america. 15 and married or 15 and a whore.

Seems like to me he's a Talmudic Rabbi undercover as a Saudi muslim cleric!

After all it's in the Talmud that its ok to have sex with a 3 year old!
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
OR

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

OR

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

You can find more INSANE teahcings of the Talmud here:
Truth about the Talmud: Racist, Rabbinic Hate Literature>>>>
[link to www.revisionisthistory.org]

These people are in a system that supports and encourages these types of abuses. Male children are brought up as if this is the norm.

There are psycopathic nut cases everywhere, but in America the legal system attempts to protect children and tries to ensure children are nurtured and loved.

Against forced marriages

This month saw the launch of the European campaign against forced marriages in Rotterdam. One of the people heading this campaign is Professor Tariq Ramadan, President of the European Muslim Network. His statement explained why he had to get involved in this campaign - I think it’s a great message. In case you haven’t read it:

Something had to be said about practices that are very often presented as Islamic while they are betraying the very essence of the Islamic message. The contemporary Muslim conscience is actually facing two major problems: the literalist reading and reductive interpretation of the scriptural sources (Qur’an and prophetic traditions –Sunna) on the one hand and the great confusion between religious principles and cultural practices on the other.

Forced marriages are at the crossroad of these two very serious challenges: some ‘ulamâ’, Muslim scholars, are keeping silent or even accepting these practices by relying on some texts read literally without referring to the overall Islamic teachings (and their objectives) or at least contextualizing these very marginal scriptural sources. Muslims are very often confusing cultural practices with religious principles and they think that forced marriages, to which they were used to in their culture (the current one or the culture of origin) are in fact Islamic.

The literalist and cultural readings of the Qur’an and the Sunna are two dangerous phenomena for they mislead the believers and betray the very essence of Islam in numerous fields: gender issues, human rights, political systems and, of course, family life, marriages, etc.

It is thus in the name of Islam that we have to say that forced marriages are not acceptable and we need to launch a vast awareness-raising campaign within our European societies to put an end to such practices.

Forced marriages are not Islamic and must be condemned in the name of Islam! This is our message, this is our call!

We have to accept that forced marriages are a part of our communities and do our part to both ensure these practices do not happen and help those victims that have suffered from such un-Islamic practices.”
[link to blog.islamicforumeurope.com]

The american system doesnt give a crock about ANY of these kids, ask 90% of them who were taken from their parents and put in the "system". Thats why they let girls 13 get abortions, medical procedure wihtout parents consent, they condone and wnat illict behavior and disrespect of parents.

If only ALL mothers could have the same values you speak of, many do, but society works against being a TRUE PARENT.No matter how close you try to keep your kids, theres always going to be some outside influence.

I am not at all for "child" marriages, I dont know of any muslims who want or condone sleeping with a 10 year girl. I dont believe it was marriage as in he sleeps with her at 10, but rather is promised to him until she reaches maturity, whenever that may be. Modern times bring modern problems, there are a lot of perverted men who take advantage of girls and boys, and women as well who do so, but not every culture is as perverse and american.

Or.....


A Mossad plant?

Im not saying you or anybody else agree with me totally, but I am 100% with ya on that line^

There is nothing more 'Islamic' than the great pedophiles example - he liked six year olds.

Slavery, Banditry, murder, torture. treachery were other great examples he set!

Wow, like none of these things go on in america today, was'nt mohammed like 100's of years ago?????????

You are an ignorant fucktard!


“A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.”


“If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned.”


“A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed.”


–Ayatollah Ruhollah Musawi Khomeini

Ummm, how does this make me ignorant^? WTF does that have to do with anything I stated? That last line sounds like the average american pedophile.