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It's an injustice to NOT marry girls aged 10 : Saudi's most senior cleric

 
Anonymous Coward
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01/14/2009 05:30 PM
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14 year old whore = O.K.
14 year old married girl = NOT O.K.
14 YEAR OLD ON WELFARE WITH 2 KIDS = O.K.
14 YEAR OLD MARRIED TO A MAN (young man whatever) supporting her NO WELFARE = NOT O.K.

These girls out here at 13 14 and 15 ARE DOING IT ALL. Every day a new article comes out ont he news about some 14 or 15 even 12 year olds running off with some man OR their "boyfriend". If they were'nt such whores, the men would'nt have problems.


14 year old girl FORCED to marry a 60 year old man


A OK in your book?



Where did FORCED come from?

The context of the thread is Saudi Arabia,where forced marriages happen daily


The Idea of a "forced" marriage came about with modernism. Before, it would'nt have been an issue, parents pick your husband, period. Its common for a girl to be "married" to a man, and he not sleep with her for many years. Your not going to walk down the street and find a ton of 10 year olds pregnant, many are 17 or older and MARRIED. MOST marriages were arranged int he past, if the father chose a 60 year old man, deal wiht it, im sure he would'nt pcik a man he thought would harm his daughter. Now in america, I can find PLENTY of 13 and 14 year olds on welfare with babies, FACT.
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In Islam it's basically the same as a man selling his goat. Would he sell a goat to a man who might hurt it? What does he care? It's not his goat anymore. If he developed feelings for the livestock over the 10 years it lived with him... well, that's just abnormal.
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01/14/2009 05:31 PM
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if the children were respected, not molested nor raped AND if they could say NO to the arranged marriage, if they didn't want to marry, then it would be ok.

but looks like they have no say on the marriage and can only file for divorce after puberty.

then it is NOT OK because in this case their human rights to only marry who they choose would be violated
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01/14/2009 05:31 PM
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There is nothing more 'Islamic' than the great pedophiles example - he liked six year olds.

Slavery, Banditry, murder, torture. treachery were other great examples he set!



Wow, like none of these things go on in america today, was'nt mohammed like 100's of years ago?????????
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Sure they do - they are illegal though - they are CRIMES or is that too difficult a concept for you to comprehend!!!?


In Islam - all these things are examples to be followed!

That is why you will never see Muslims protesting terrorists!
Anonymous Coward
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01/14/2009 05:37 PM
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Im not that old, let me tell you, the girls I went to school with no mroe than 6 years ago, were all about sex. Not everyone has gotten abused/molested, theres always an excuse. Maybe America shuld teach some self dignity and respect, seperate the girls from boys ins chool, stop your daughters from going to parties and posting public profiles, get some respect for themselves. A LOT of women speak about being rapes and molested from the late 1800s and early 1900's, they went on to get married, NOT become whores, its all in the media and lifestyle nowadays.
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America has nothing to do with raising kids. It's the parent's responsibility and if they don't do it, then it's a beloved family or friend's responsibility. Most rape/molestation happens w/in the family and it's never reported. Parents have to be vigilant of the other parent, friends, neighbors, other relatives and even their own children to make sure they're not playing "house", "doctor" or "let me try what I saw in that movie Mommy/Daddy/Etc. left on the video machine on my sister/cousin/brother, etc." Most of this stuff comes from w/in the inner circle and most people don't admit to these things freely. They think it was OK or it's been blocked.
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01/14/2009 06:01 PM
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Ummm, how does this make me ignorant^? WTF does that have to do with anything I stated? That last line sounds like the average american pedophile.
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I gather that what the person is trying to say to you is that America is certainly not the only country that has perverse individuals. As a matter of fact, there are laws in America that protect children in cases of molestation and rape despite what religion or psychopathic views a person must have - unlike other countries where their laws, culture, or religion allows these things to happen w/ impunity.

Secondly, Khomeini basically said it's OK to molest the child that a man is bethrothed to as long as he doesn't penetrate. That's called at bare minimum molestation in America no matter what religion or views anyone carries.

Your idea of holding the child for marriage sounds romantic if both the parents and the man made the right choice, the child becomes a beautiful young lady who marries at a decent age, who happens to love the man that was chosen for her, but the truth is that generally that doesn't really happen in their culture. I'm sure there are rare occassions of it, but I doubt it's always like that. They allow for molestation, so it's a no-go.
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01/21/2009 10:38 PM
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Secondly, Khomeini basically said it's OK to molest the child that a man is bethrothed to as long as he doesn't penetrate. That's called at bare minimum molestation in America no matter what religion or views anyone carries.


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Anonymous Coward
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09/13/2010 03:40 PM
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Disgusting. Why do we call these scum our allies? Oh, oil, that's right.........
Anonymous Coward
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09/13/2010 03:42 PM
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well looky there, free speech alive and well in Saudi Arabia, jealous much America????... you can find his content appalling and disagree but I support his right to say whatever the fuck he wants.
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Only a Frenchie could get it sooooo wrong! 'Free speech' in Saudi Arabia!!!???? What are you smoking!!!???
Anonymous Coward
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09/13/2010 03:50 PM
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Well the pedophiles will pull anything to get their ways, now won't they?

Even insult girls here at home, is a form of abuse heading towards pedophilia issues. Instead of insulting any girl age 14 and pregnant why is the AC not discussing who took a young girl and got her pregnant-meaning a male person?

As long as most of the men agree females have no say nor rights it appears in all countrys. Shame on you all.
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09/13/2010 03:53 PM
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You cannot justify pedophilia no matter how you look at it.
These men here who are for this sort of thing ,marrying 10 yr girls off to older men are probably pedophiles themselves!
I think someone needs to start looking into these men and their backgrounds a lot deeper.
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09/13/2010 03:57 PM

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10 is like the new 20.
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09/13/2010 04:12 PM
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Females are not chattels to be exploited!! We are HUMAN BEINGS with the same inherant rights as males!!
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09/13/2010 04:29 PM
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Actually, their Prophet's wife was 20+ years OLDER than he was. They make up shit to fit their needs.....
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well looky there, free speech alive and well in Saudi Arabia, jealous much America????... you can find his content appalling and disagree but I support his right to say whatever the fuck he wants.



Yeah. I'd wonder what they'd do to the 10 year old girl who kicks and screams that she doesn't want to get married. So much for free speech.
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09/13/2010 05:07 PM
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This is old, but this is the type of people we are dealing with. I think we should unite to rid the world of this Islamic cancer. I question anyone who defends what they say. I would totally support removing ALL children from muslim parents.


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09/13/2010 05:13 PM
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This Muslim cleric must misunderstand Islam






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LOL.....yep :-)
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09/13/2010 05:39 PM
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This doesn't surprise me coming from a religion where their prophet (Muhammad) had sex with a 9 year old girl (Aisha).


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09/13/2010 06:40 PM
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You people can talk.

At least these Saudis don't hide it.
Anonymous Coward
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09/13/2010 07:53 PM
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You people can talk.

At least these Saudis don't hide it.
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You fucking idiot. Every other pervert hides it because it is fucking illegal in a civilized society and you will be arrested, thrown in prison and ass raped.
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09/13/2010 07:58 PM
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You people can talk.

At least these Saudis don't hide it.


You fucking idiot. Every other pervert hides it because it is fucking illegal in a civilized society and you will be arrested, thrown in prison and ass raped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1039722


Most of the people who do this in so-called civilized societies are never thrown into prison. They live normal everyday lives and are part of the pretence of community and responsible citizenry upon which those societies pride themselves.

The fact that you people now complain about something you yourselves do ritually and otherwise, is the utmost in hypocrisy. Furthermore you do it to your OWN DAUGHTERS then send them out destroy the unwitting men with whom they will come into contact.
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09/13/2010 09:23 PM
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You people can talk.

At least these Saudis don't hide it.


You fucking idiot. Every other pervert hides it because it is fucking illegal in a civilized society and you will be arrested, thrown in prison and ass raped.


Most of the people who do this in so-called civilized societies are never thrown into prison. They live normal everyday lives and are part of the pretence of community and responsible citizenry upon which those societies pride themselves.

The fact that you people now complain about something you yourselves do ritually and otherwise, is the utmost in hypocrisy. Furthermore you do it to your OWN DAUGHTERS then send them out destroy the unwitting men with whom they will come into contact.
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Most of the people who do this in so-called civilized societies are never thrown into prison

Yes, because they hide it, because it is illegal! FAIL.

The fact that you people now complain about something you yourselves do ritually and otherwise, is the utmost in hypocrisy.

"A ritual is a set of actions, performed mainly for their symbolic value. It may be prescribed by a religion or by the traditions of a community."

Perverts do it in secret because they are piece of shit criminals. Backward ass cultures and religions do it openly because it is part of their tradition, ala ritual. FAIL.

Furthermore you do it to your OWN DAUGHTERS then send them out destroy the unwitting men with whom they will come into contact.

So the problem is not the filthy perverts who want to sexually abuse young girls, it is the fact that the sexually abused young girls will be an emotional pain in the ass for the next guy they are with? You are garbage. FAIL.
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Anonymous Coward 1097925, I'm waiting your reply you pedo apologist.

I usually browse over most of the nonsense on this forum without comment but when someone wants to applaud and justify child sexual abuse, it just pisses me off.





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