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Stop EPA From Further Regulating Colloidal Silver as a "Pesticide" (thanks to S. Spencer Jones)

We have only until January 20th to submit comments to the EPA against the proposal by radical environmental groups that want the EPA to immediately begin regulating nanosilver (read: colloidal silver) as a "pesticide" -- an action that would completely take colloidal silver off the market at some point in time.



Apparently, radical environmental groups and fake "consumer advocate" groups have joined hands to accellerate the ongoing campaign to have the EPA regulate all commercial forms of nanosilver, including colloidal silver, as a "new pesticide."

We received today an email from our good friend George Foss, a top nutritional supplement formulator and natural health watchdog, explaining that the Center for Food Safety (an elitist, pro-regulatory group masquerading as a "consumer advocacy" group) is now urging their readers to send comments to the EPA supporting the "Petition for Rulemaking Requesting EPA Regulate Nanoscale Silver Products as Pesticides.”

This petition -- if accepted and acted upon by the EPA -- would essentially allow the EPA to regulate colloidal silver into oblivion, on the grounds that it could potentially cause harm to the environment. (See more on this issue below.)

Public Comments Soon to Be Closed

We also learned that public comments on this petition have been open for some time. But apparently only the rabid environmental groups and fake "consumer advocate" groups supporting the proposal have been told about the comment period, which ends January 20th. These pro-regulatory groups have been sending emails to their thousands of readers, urging them to go to a special web page they have set up where an automated system exists for submitting comments to the EPA en masse.

Unfortunately, this comment submission system only allows for comments from people who favor futher strict regulation of nanosilver by the EPA. Even if you use the system to send a comment against the proposal to regulate nanosilver as a "new pesticide," the system overrides your comment by superceding it with a "canned" favorable comment.

This means virtually all of the comments going to the EPA have been in favor of further regulation of nanosilver products.

Since EPA depends heavily upon public comments when deciding upon new regulatory action, it is vitally important that they get to hear the views of those who do not want to see nanosilver further regulated by the EPA as a "new pesticide."

Comments to the EPA will be closed as of January 20, 2009, so we have only a short time to act on this issue in order to save colloidal silver from being regulated into oblivion.

My Contact with the EPA

I picked up the phone this afternoon and called the EPA at the number under “Contact Us” on their web site (202-564-4700).

A very nice gentleman named “Peter” answered and I asked him how I could submit a comment on the nanosilver regulation issue, as their web site appears to offer no easy way to take and deliver such comments from the public.

He said to send comments by fax or email directly to the EPA Administrator, Mr. Stephen Johnson:

Email: [email protected]
Fax: 202-501-1450

Be sure to reference Docket # EPA-HQ-OPP-2008-0650.

Also, be sure to state that you are commenting in regards to the “Petition for Rulemaking Requesting EPA Regulate Nanoscale Silver Products as Pesticides.”

I also found a page on the EPA web site that says comments can be sent by mail to the following address:

Office of Pesticide Programs (OPP) Regulatory Public Docket (7502P)
Environmental Protection Agency
1200 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20460-0001

Additionally, after much searching, I was able to figure out a way to post a comment to the EPA web site regarding the proposed regulations. I used this link, which I hope works for everyone else, too:

[link to www.regulations.gov]

Must Act Quickly and Decisively!

As quickly as possible we need to get the above contact information posted on as many relevant natural health internet forums as possible, and also circulated by email to all relevant people in the natural health industry.

Please do your part to help by referring as many "natural health" people as possible to this blog post.

The rabid environmentalists have had a huge head start on this issue, since they are the only ones who knew where to send comments to. And there is only a very short period of time left between now and January 20th to submit further comments.

Wild and Invalid Claims

As you may already know, the environmental groups and fake "consumer advocate" groups have been making wild and invalid claims about nanosilver for some time now, stating that it is in immediate need of EPA regulation due to its alleged potential to harm the environment.

Through deception and chicanery these groups have managed to convince the EPA to re-classify nanosilver as a "pesticide" under an obscure set of regulations known as FIFRA.

Now they are pressing the FDA to strictly enforce those regulations under the supposition that nanosilver products represents a dire threat to the environment.

Yet not one study to date – I repeat, not one study -- has ever demonstrated nanosilver to have harmed any part of the environment. Instead, only test tube and lab studies extrapolating its alleged negative effects on the environment have been conducted.

And for the most part, those studies have been conducted by researchers who were either hired by the environmental groups to demonstrate nanosilver’s alleged harmful environmental attributes, or by researchers specifically working to forward the agenda of these groups.

In other words, the so-called studies have been conducted by researchers who are predisposed to believe nanosilver is somehow harmful, or somehow represents a dire threat to the environment. They have been paid to demonstrate exactly that. This means the study outcomes are decided upon in advance, before the studies are even started. This is junk science at its worst.

Re-Defining NanoSilver to Include Colloidal Silver

What’s more, the environmental groups behind this drive to have nanosilver regulated into oblivion have re-defined the term “nanosilver” to include just about any commercial form of natural silver available on the market today, including ALL colloidal silver products.

In one of their petitions to the EPA demanding the regulation of nano-silver products, these groups have even named some of the top commercial colloidal silver brands on the market today (including Sovereign Silver, Meso-Silver, ASAP Colloidal Silver, Utopia Silver and more) as being in dire need of “regulation.”

So the whole thing reeks of a stealth campaign to have colloidal silver banned.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that silver has been in the environment for millions of years. In its natural state, bonded to other minerals and natural substances, it causes no harm to the environment whatsoever.

As commercially produced nanosilver returns to the environment it is very rapidly degraded as it agglomerates (i.e., bonds together) with natural minerals, salts and other natural environmental substances that in effect eliminate its commercial nano-scale attributes, as well as effectively neutralizing its so-called “potentially harmful pesticide qualities” (i.e., its ability to kill pathogens on contact).

So in reality, there is no threat to the environment whatsoever from nanosilver products.

Rigged Studies

The researchers who have ostensibly demonstrated harmful attributes of nanosilver on environmental life forms such as bacteria or tiny minnows used extremely high quantities of pure commercially produced nanosilver products in their lab studies.

In other words they used levels of nanosilver that would simply never be found in the environment, due to silver’s propensity to bond rapidly with a multitude of other minerals, salts and other substances and return to its natural state once back in the environment.

In short, the studies are bunk. They prove nothing. The reason the studies were conducted in the laboratory rather than in the actual environment is because it was already known what would have been demonstrated in an true environmental study. No environmental harm whatsoever would have been found.

But by doing lab studies under rigged conditions that could never be found in the environment itself, the environmentalist researchers were able to demonstrate exactly what they set out to demonstrate. In other words, these studies were a “fix” from the beginning, in my opinion.

My Comments to the EPA

Here is what I posted through the EPA web site comment submission system earlier today. Whether or not these comments actually get posted to the EPA web site is another story. We shall see. Nevertheless, I also intend to submit my comments through the EPA’s email and fax systems noted above, as well as through the U.S. mail at the address noted above.

Folks, we need to bombard EPA with comments against the proposal to further regulate nano-silver as a “pesticide,” just as the environmentalists have been bombarding them with comments in favor of the proposal. Here’s the comment I submitted:

To the Honorable Mr. Stephen Johnson, Administrator:

The idea that nanosilver needs to be regulated by EPA due to ostensilbe harm to the environment is ridiculous at face value.
No study has ever demonstrated nanosilver to have caused harm to the environment.

The only studies conducted have been laboratory studies that have extrapolated nanosilver's alleged environmental impact. These studies have completely ignored the fact that once returned to the environment nanosilver rapidly bonds with minerals, salts and other natural substances, forming non-nano scale conglomerate particulates, essentially returning the silver to its natural harmless state.

In other words, once returned to the environment it is no longer nanosilver. And it no longer has the attributes deemed harmful by the white coat lab researchers who have conducted their laboratory studies using nanosilver in its purest and most non-adulterated commercial form rather than looking at what actually happens to nanosilver once it returns to the environment.

By promoting lab studies that assume nanosilver somehow remains in its nano-scale commercial form once returned to the environment -- which is so demonstrably false as to be ludicrous -- the environmentalists behind the push to regulate nanosilver as a new “pesticide” have done EPA and the American public a grave injustice. They have created an environmental "crisis" where none exists.

If you carefully read the petitions and press releases put out by the environmental groups now petitioning EPA in regards to regulating nanosilver, you will see they are so full of unsupported speculations and weasel words (i.e., "might cause harm" "could impact the environment," "may be highly destructive") as to be laughable.

We respectively submit EPA ignore the rabid calls to regulate nanosilver being made by neo-Luddite environmentalist groups. It is simply and conclusively a non-issue, in terms of potential harm to the environment.

Silver has always been in the environment and always will be. And when commercially produced nanosilver is returned to the environment it does not in any way, shape or form retain its commercial nanosilver properties. This issue is therefore moot; it is the proverbial "much ado about nothing."

Respectfully,S. Spencer Jones

Positive Impact

Hopefully we can make some positive impact against the proposal to have EPA regulate nano-silver as an environmental contaminant. But we have only a short time to act. And if we fail to act we will likely see the demise of the entire colloidal silver market.

So please be sure to help us get this vital information out to the natural health community.

Put the Means of Colloidal Silver Production
Into Your Own Hands While There Is Still Time

For anyone wishing to put the means of colloidal silver production into your own hands, please consider getting a colloidal silver generator right away. With a colloidal silver generator you can produce all of the colloidal silver you'll ever need, any time you want, in the comfort and privacy of your own home, for only a few pennies per quart.

Owning the means of colloidal silver production is the only way to make sure you will always have access to this powerful natural healing substance, especially if the EPA bows to pressure from the environmental groups and follows through on their plans to regulate nanosilver it into oblivion.

Learn More...

Read more about the science of Silver Hydrosol at www.imref.org, The Immunogenic Research Foundation.

You can read about the astonishing ability of colloidal silver to kill antibiotic-resistant superpathogens such as MRSA at the ColloidalSilverCuresMRSA.com web site by clicking here.

Finally...

For beginners, you can learn everything you need to know to get started using colloidal silver by watching the brand new, studio-quality, 60-minute Colloidal Silver Secrets Video, described at this link.

And for those who would prefer more in-depth information about colloidal silver usage, including three full chapters of in-depth dosage information, check out the newly update, 547-page edition of The Ultimate Colloidal Silver Manual by clicking here.

Regards,
S. Spencer Jones
[link to www.LifeandHealthResearchGroup.com]
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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I have a silver dollar in my water filter. It's
how the settlers used to keep their water free
of bacteria, etc. Works great.
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all you need to make silver water is a pure silver dollar
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that is why they had the blue dude on the tele recently, typical
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people, you will learn to love your benevolent overlords


smellfinge
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Not surprising. CS works. It's the only thing that truly works against colds and flu not just covering up the symptoms.

And no, you don't "just need silver". You have to make it very carefully in very controlled conditions else you end up with silver nitrate not colloidal silver and that turns your skin blue, does nothing for your health but smurfs you and makes you look like a twat.

This is a very serious threat. I suspect that the "radical groups" are funded by Big Pharma. They have been after CS for years. Eats into their profit.
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Excuse the use of the f word here

FUCK the EPA.
They can allow chemicals, cigarettes, fake food, toxic vaccines and so many other bad things.
FUCK them

And then take away the good stuff.

The only thing that makes me feel good is knowing when they die they will face their maker and try to explain.
Greedy FUCKS
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Not surprising. CS works. It's the only thing that truly works against colds and flu not just covering up the symptoms.

And no, you don't "just need silver". You have to make it very carefully in very controlled conditions else you end up with silver nitrate not colloidal silver and that turns your skin blue, does nothing for your health but smurfs you and makes you look like a twat.

This is a very serious threat. I suspect that the "radical groups" are funded by Big Pharma. They have been after CS for years. Eats into their profit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2694

putting silver in your water won't turn you blue
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people, you will learn to love your benevolent overlords


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interesting that you only use a pciture showing democrats for your biased post along with the picture in your user name.
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Excuse the use of the f word here

FUCK the EPA.
They can allow chemicals, cigarettes, fake food, toxic vaccines and so many other bad things.
FUCK them

And then take away the good stuff.

The only thing that makes me feel good is knowing when they die they will face their maker and try to explain.
Greedy FUCKS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 593600


^^^^^^ ding ding ding - hold your calls america we have a winner.
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*Dont fuck with me; ill jump on my menstrual cycle & run your ass over ;)
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Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
[link to www.cafepress.com]

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The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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I have a device so I can make my own. It takes 3 9v rechargeable batteries to operate it.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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I got this email too

My response was


Lets deal with the mercury, fluoride and lead first, ok?
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P.S. I believe this has something to do with the fact that this works against H5N1/Bird Flu....
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Stop EPA From Further Regulating Colloidal Silver as a "Pesticide" (thanks to S. Spencer Jones)

We have only until January 20th to submit comments to the EPA against the proposal by radical environmental groups that want the EPA to immediately begin regulating nanosilver (read: colloidal silver) as a "pesticide" -- an action that would completely take colloidal silver off the market at some point in time.



Apparently, radical environmental groups and fake "consumer advocate" groups have joined hands to accellerate the ongoing campaign to have the EPA regulate all commercial forms of nanosilver, including colloidal silver, as a "new pesticide."

We received today an email from our good friend George Foss, a top nutritional supplement formulator and natural health watchdog, explaining that the Center for Food Safety (an elitist, pro-regulatory group masquerading as a "consumer advocacy" group) is now urging their readers to send comments to the EPA supporting the "Petition for Rulemaking Requesting EPA Regulate Nanoscale Silver Products as Pesticides.”

This petition -- if accepted and acted upon by the EPA -- would essentially allow the EPA to regulate colloidal silver into oblivion, on the grounds that it could potentially cause harm to the environment. (See more on this issue below.)

Public Comments Soon to Be Closed

We also learned that public comments on this petition have been open for some time. But apparently only the rabid environmental groups and fake "consumer advocate" groups supporting the proposal have been told about the comment period, which ends January 20th. These pro-regulatory groups have been sending emails to their thousands of readers, urging them to go to a special web page they have set up where an automated system exists for submitting comments to the EPA en masse.

Unfortunately, this comment submission system only allows for comments from people who favor futher strict regulation of nanosilver by the EPA. Even if you use the system to send a comment against the proposal to regulate nanosilver as a "new pesticide," the system overrides your comment by superceding it with a "canned" favorable comment.

This means virtually all of the comments going to the EPA have been in favor of further regulation of nanosilver products.

Since EPA depends heavily upon public comments when deciding upon new regulatory action, it is vitally important that they get to hear the views of those who do not want to see nanosilver further regulated by the EPA as a "new pesticide."

Comments to the EPA will be closed as of January 20, 2009, so we have only a short time to act on this issue in order to save colloidal silver from being regulated into oblivion.

My Contact with the EPA

I picked up the phone this afternoon and called the EPA at the number under “Contact Us” on their web site (202-564-4700).

A very nice gentleman named “Peter” answered and I asked him how I could submit a comment on the nanosilver regulation issue, as their web site appears to offer no easy way to take and deliver such comments from the public.

He said to send comments by fax or email directly to the EPA Administrator, Mr. Stephen Johnson:

Email: [email protected]
Fax: 202-501-1450

Be sure to reference Docket # EPA-HQ-OPP-2008-0650.

Also, be sure to state that you are commenting in regards to the “Petition for Rulemaking Requesting EPA Regulate Nanoscale Silver Products as Pesticides.”

I also found a page on the EPA web site that says comments can be sent by mail to the following address:

Office of Pesticide Programs (OPP) Regulatory Public Docket (7502P)
Environmental Protection Agency
1200 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20460-0001

Additionally, after much searching, I was able to figure out a way to post a comment to the EPA web site regarding the proposed regulations. I used this link, which I hope works for everyone else, too:

[link to www.regulations.gov]

Must Act Quickly and Decisively!

As quickly as possible we need to get the above contact information posted on as many relevant natural health internet forums as possible, and also circulated by email to all relevant people in the natural health industry.

Please do your part to help by referring as many "natural health" people as possible to this blog post.

The rabid environmentalists have had a huge head start on this issue, since they are the only ones who knew where to send comments to. And there is only a very short period of time left between now and January 20th to submit further comments.

Wild and Invalid Claims

As you may already know, the environmental groups and fake "consumer advocate" groups have been making wild and invalid claims about nanosilver for some time now, stating that it is in immediate need of EPA regulation due to its alleged potential to harm the environment.

Through deception and chicanery these groups have managed to convince the EPA to re-classify nanosilver as a "pesticide" under an obscure set of regulations known as FIFRA.

Now they are pressing the FDA to strictly enforce those regulations under the supposition that nanosilver products represents a dire threat to the environment.

Yet not one study to date – I repeat, not one study -- has ever demonstrated nanosilver to have harmed any part of the environment. Instead, only test tube and lab studies extrapolating its alleged negative effects on the environment have been conducted.

And for the most part, those studies have been conducted by researchers who were either hired by the environmental groups to demonstrate nanosilver’s alleged harmful environmental attributes, or by researchers specifically working to forward the agenda of these groups.

In other words, the so-called studies have been conducted by researchers who are predisposed to believe nanosilver is somehow harmful, or somehow represents a dire threat to the environment. They have been paid to demonstrate exactly that. This means the study outcomes are decided upon in advance, before the studies are even started. This is junk science at its worst.

Re-Defining NanoSilver to Include Colloidal Silver

What’s more, the environmental groups behind this drive to have nanosilver regulated into oblivion have re-defined the term “nanosilver” to include just about any commercial form of natural silver available on the market today, including ALL colloidal silver products.

In one of their petitions to the EPA demanding the regulation of nano-silver products, these groups have even named some of the top commercial colloidal silver brands on the market today (including Sovereign Silver, Meso-Silver, ASAP Colloidal Silver, Utopia Silver and more) as being in dire need of “regulation.”

So the whole thing reeks of a stealth campaign to have colloidal silver banned.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that silver has been in the environment for millions of years. In its natural state, bonded to other minerals and natural substances, it causes no harm to the environment whatsoever.

As commercially produced nanosilver returns to the environment it is very rapidly degraded as it agglomerates (i.e., bonds together) with natural minerals, salts and other natural environmental substances that in effect eliminate its commercial nano-scale attributes, as well as effectively neutralizing its so-called “potentially harmful pesticide qualities” (i.e., its ability to kill pathogens on contact).

So in reality, there is no threat to the environment whatsoever from nanosilver products.

Rigged Studies

The researchers who have ostensibly demonstrated harmful attributes of nanosilver on environmental life forms such as bacteria or tiny minnows used extremely high quantities of pure commercially produced nanosilver products in their lab studies.

In other words they used levels of nanosilver that would simply never be found in the environment, due to silver’s propensity to bond rapidly with a multitude of other minerals, salts and other substances and return to its natural state once back in the environment.

In short, the studies are bunk. They prove nothing. The reason the studies were conducted in the laboratory rather than in the actual environment is because it was already known what would have been demonstrated in an true environmental study. No environmental harm whatsoever would have been found.

But by doing lab studies under rigged conditions that could never be found in the environment itself, the environmentalist researchers were able to demonstrate exactly what they set out to demonstrate. In other words, these studies were a “fix” from the beginning, in my opinion.

My Comments to the EPA

Here is what I posted through the EPA web site comment submission system earlier today. Whether or not these comments actually get posted to the EPA web site is another story. We shall see. Nevertheless, I also intend to submit my comments through the EPA’s email and fax systems noted above, as well as through the U.S. mail at the address noted above.

Folks, we need to bombard EPA with comments against the proposal to further regulate nano-silver as a “pesticide,” just as the environmentalists have been bombarding them with comments in favor of the proposal. Here’s the comment I submitted:

To the Honorable Mr. Stephen Johnson, Administrator:

The idea that nanosilver needs to be regulated by EPA due to ostensilbe harm to the environment is ridiculous at face value.
No study has ever demonstrated nanosilver to have caused harm to the environment.

The only studies conducted have been laboratory studies that have extrapolated nanosilver's alleged environmental impact. These studies have completely ignored the fact that once returned to the environment nanosilver rapidly bonds with minerals, salts and other natural substances, forming non-nano scale conglomerate particulates, essentially returning the silver to its natural harmless state.

In other words, once returned to the environment it is no longer nanosilver. And it no longer has the attributes deemed harmful by the white coat lab researchers who have conducted their laboratory studies using nanosilver in its purest and most non-adulterated commercial form rather than looking at what actually happens to nanosilver once it returns to the environment.

By promoting lab studies that assume nanosilver somehow remains in its nano-scale commercial form once returned to the environment -- which is so demonstrably false as to be ludicrous -- the environmentalists behind the push to regulate nanosilver as a new “pesticide” have done EPA and the American public a grave injustice. They have created an environmental "crisis" where none exists.

If you carefully read the petitions and press releases put out by the environmental groups now petitioning EPA in regards to regulating nanosilver, you will see they are so full of unsupported speculations and weasel words (i.e., "might cause harm" "could impact the environment," "may be highly destructive") as to be laughable.

We respectively submit EPA ignore the rabid calls to regulate nanosilver being made by neo-Luddite environmentalist groups. It is simply and conclusively a non-issue, in terms of potential harm to the environment.

Silver has always been in the environment and always will be. And when commercially produced nanosilver is returned to the environment it does not in any way, shape or form retain its commercial nanosilver properties. This issue is therefore moot; it is the proverbial "much ado about nothing."

Respectfully,S. Spencer Jones

Positive Impact

Hopefully we can make some positive impact against the proposal to have EPA regulate nano-silver as an environmental contaminant. But we have only a short time to act. And if we fail to act we will likely see the demise of the entire colloidal silver market.

So please be sure to help us get this vital information out to the natural health community.

Put the Means of Colloidal Silver Production
Into Your Own Hands While There Is Still Time

For anyone wishing to put the means of colloidal silver production into your own hands, please consider getting a colloidal silver generator right away. With a colloidal silver generator you can produce all of the colloidal silver you'll ever need, any time you want, in the comfort and privacy of your own home, for only a few pennies per quart.

Owning the means of colloidal silver production is the only way to make sure you will always have access to this powerful natural healing substance, especially if the EPA bows to pressure from the environmental groups and follows through on their plans to regulate nanosilver it into oblivion.

Learn More...

Read more about the science of Silver Hydrosol at www.imref.org, The Immunogenic Research Foundation.

You can read about the astonishing ability of colloidal silver to kill antibiotic-resistant superpathogens such as MRSA at the ColloidalSilverCuresMRSA.com web site by clicking here.

Finally...

For beginners, you can learn everything you need to know to get started using colloidal silver by watching the brand new, studio-quality, 60-minute Colloidal Silver Secrets Video, described at this link.

And for those who would prefer more in-depth information about colloidal silver usage, including three full chapters of in-depth dosage information, check out the newly update, 547-page edition of The Ultimate Colloidal Silver Manual by clicking here.

Regards,
S. Spencer Jones
[link to www.LifeandHealthResearchGroup.com]
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GAH!!! Is there anyway to stop this??? MORONS.

I think I will be stocking up on it.
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Stop EPA From Further Regulating Colloidal Silver as a "Pesticide" (thanks to S. Spencer Jones)

We have only until January 20th to submit comments to the EPA against the proposal by radical environmental groups that want the EPA to immediately begin regulating nanosilver (read: colloidal silver) as a "pesticide" -- an action that would completely take colloidal silver off the market at some point in time.



Apparently, radical environmental groups and fake "consumer advocate" groups have joined hands to accellerate the ongoing campaign to have the EPA regulate all commercial forms of nanosilver, including colloidal silver, as a "new pesticide."

We received today an email from our good friend George Foss, a top nutritional supplement formulator and natural health watchdog, explaining that the Center for Food Safety (an elitist, pro-regulatory group masquerading as a "consumer advocacy" group) is now urging their readers to send comments to the EPA supporting the "Petition for Rulemaking Requesting EPA Regulate Nanoscale Silver Products as Pesticides.”

This petition -- if accepted and acted upon by the EPA -- would essentially allow the EPA to regulate colloidal silver into oblivion, on the grounds that it could potentially cause harm to the environment. (See more on this issue below.)

Public Comments Soon to Be Closed

We also learned that public comments on this petition have been open for some time. But apparently only the rabid environmental groups and fake "consumer advocate" groups supporting the proposal have been told about the comment period, which ends January 20th. These pro-regulatory groups have been sending emails to their thousands of readers, urging them to go to a special web page they have set up where an automated system exists for submitting comments to the EPA en masse.

Unfortunately, this comment submission system only allows for comments from people who favor futher strict regulation of nanosilver by the EPA. Even if you use the system to send a comment against the proposal to regulate nanosilver as a "new pesticide," the system overrides your comment by superceding it with a "canned" favorable comment.

This means virtually all of the comments going to the EPA have been in favor of further regulation of nanosilver products.

Since EPA depends heavily upon public comments when deciding upon new regulatory action, it is vitally important that they get to hear the views of those who do not want to see nanosilver further regulated by the EPA as a "new pesticide."

Comments to the EPA will be closed as of January 20, 2009, so we have only a short time to act on this issue in order to save colloidal silver from being regulated into oblivion.

My Contact with the EPA

I picked up the phone this afternoon and called the EPA at the number under “Contact Us” on their web site (202-564-4700).

A very nice gentleman named “Peter” answered and I asked him how I could submit a comment on the nanosilver regulation issue, as their web site appears to offer no easy way to take and deliver such comments from the public.

He said to send comments by fax or email directly to the EPA Administrator, Mr. Stephen Johnson:

Email: [email protected]
Fax: 202-501-1450

Be sure to reference Docket # EPA-HQ-OPP-2008-0650.

Also, be sure to state that you are commenting in regards to the “Petition for Rulemaking Requesting EPA Regulate Nanoscale Silver Products as Pesticides.”

I also found a page on the EPA web site that says comments can be sent by mail to the following address:

Office of Pesticide Programs (OPP) Regulatory Public Docket (7502P)
Environmental Protection Agency
1200 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20460-0001

Additionally, after much searching, I was able to figure out a way to post a comment to the EPA web site regarding the proposed regulations. I used this link, which I hope works for everyone else, too:

[link to www.regulations.gov]

Must Act Quickly and Decisively!

As quickly as possible we need to get the above contact information posted on as many relevant natural health internet forums as possible, and also circulated by email to all relevant people in the natural health industry.

Please do your part to help by referring as many "natural health" people as possible to this blog post.

The rabid environmentalists have had a huge head start on this issue, since they are the only ones who knew where to send comments to. And there is only a very short period of time left between now and January 20th to submit further comments.

Wild and Invalid Claims

As you may already know, the environmental groups and fake "consumer advocate" groups have been making wild and invalid claims about nanosilver for some time now, stating that it is in immediate need of EPA regulation due to its alleged potential to harm the environment.

Through deception and chicanery these groups have managed to convince the EPA to re-classify nanosilver as a "pesticide" under an obscure set of regulations known as FIFRA.

Now they are pressing the FDA to strictly enforce those regulations under the supposition that nanosilver products represents a dire threat to the environment.

Yet not one study to date – I repeat, not one study -- has ever demonstrated nanosilver to have harmed any part of the environment. Instead, only test tube and lab studies extrapolating its alleged negative effects on the environment have been conducted.

And for the most part, those studies have been conducted by researchers who were either hired by the environmental groups to demonstrate nanosilver’s alleged harmful environmental attributes, or by researchers specifically working to forward the agenda of these groups.

In other words, the so-called studies have been conducted by researchers who are predisposed to believe nanosilver is somehow harmful, or somehow represents a dire threat to the environment. They have been paid to demonstrate exactly that. This means the study outcomes are decided upon in advance, before the studies are even started. This is junk science at its worst.

Re-Defining NanoSilver to Include Colloidal Silver

What’s more, the environmental groups behind this drive to have nanosilver regulated into oblivion have re-defined the term “nanosilver” to include just about any commercial form of natural silver available on the market today, including ALL colloidal silver products.

In one of their petitions to the EPA demanding the regulation of nano-silver products, these groups have even named some of the top commercial colloidal silver brands on the market today (including Sovereign Silver, Meso-Silver, ASAP Colloidal Silver, Utopia Silver and more) as being in dire need of “regulation.”

So the whole thing reeks of a stealth campaign to have colloidal silver banned.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that silver has been in the environment for millions of years. In its natural state, bonded to other minerals and natural substances, it causes no harm to the environment whatsoever.

As commercially produced nanosilver returns to the environment it is very rapidly degraded as it agglomerates (i.e., bonds together) with natural minerals, salts and other natural environmental substances that in effect eliminate its commercial nano-scale attributes, as well as effectively neutralizing its so-called “potentially harmful pesticide qualities” (i.e., its ability to kill pathogens on contact).

So in reality, there is no threat to the environment whatsoever from nanosilver products.

Rigged Studies

The researchers who have ostensibly demonstrated harmful attributes of nanosilver on environmental life forms such as bacteria or tiny minnows used extremely high quantities of pure commercially produced nanosilver products in their lab studies.

In other words they used levels of nanosilver that would simply never be found in the environment, due to silver’s propensity to bond rapidly with a multitude of other minerals, salts and other substances and return to its natural state once back in the environment.

In short, the studies are bunk. They prove nothing. The reason the studies were conducted in the laboratory rather than in the actual environment is because it was already known what would have been demonstrated in an true environmental study. No environmental harm whatsoever would have been found.

But by doing lab studies under rigged conditions that could never be found in the environment itself, the environmentalist researchers were able to demonstrate exactly what they set out to demonstrate. In other words, these studies were a “fix” from the beginning, in my opinion.

My Comments to the EPA

Here is what I posted through the EPA web site comment submission system earlier today. Whether or not these comments actually get posted to the EPA web site is another story. We shall see. Nevertheless, I also intend to submit my comments through the EPA’s email and fax systems noted above, as well as through the U.S. mail at the address noted above.

Folks, we need to bombard EPA with comments against the proposal to further regulate nano-silver as a “pesticide,” just as the environmentalists have been bombarding them with comments in favor of the proposal. Here’s the comment I submitted:

To the Honorable Mr. Stephen Johnson, Administrator:

The idea that nanosilver needs to be regulated by EPA due to ostensilbe harm to the environment is ridiculous at face value.
No study has ever demonstrated nanosilver to have caused harm to the environment.

The only studies conducted have been laboratory studies that have extrapolated nanosilver's alleged environmental impact. These studies have completely ignored the fact that once returned to the environment nanosilver rapidly bonds with minerals, salts and other natural substances, forming non-nano scale conglomerate particulates, essentially returning the silver to its natural harmless state.

In other words, once returned to the environment it is no longer nanosilver. And it no longer has the attributes deemed harmful by the white coat lab researchers who have conducted their laboratory studies using nanosilver in its purest and most non-adulterated commercial form rather than looking at what actually happens to nanosilver once it returns to the environment.

By promoting lab studies that assume nanosilver somehow remains in its nano-scale commercial form once returned to the environment -- which is so demonstrably false as to be ludicrous -- the environmentalists behind the push to regulate nanosilver as a new “pesticide” have done EPA and the American public a grave injustice. They have created an environmental "crisis" where none exists.

If you carefully read the petitions and press releases put out by the environmental groups now petitioning EPA in regards to regulating nanosilver, you will see they are so full of unsupported speculations and weasel words (i.e., "might cause harm" "could impact the environment," "may be highly destructive") as to be laughable.

We respectively submit EPA ignore the rabid calls to regulate nanosilver being made by neo-Luddite environmentalist groups. It is simply and conclusively a non-issue, in terms of potential harm to the environment.

Silver has always been in the environment and always will be. And when commercially produced nanosilver is returned to the environment it does not in any way, shape or form retain its commercial nanosilver properties. This issue is therefore moot; it is the proverbial "much ado about nothing."

Respectfully,S. Spencer Jones

Positive Impact

Hopefully we can make some positive impact against the proposal to have EPA regulate nano-silver as an environmental contaminant. But we have only a short time to act. And if we fail to act we will likely see the demise of the entire colloidal silver market.

So please be sure to help us get this vital information out to the natural health community.

Put the Means of Colloidal Silver Production
Into Your Own Hands While There Is Still Time

For anyone wishing to put the means of colloidal silver production into your own hands, please consider getting a colloidal silver generator right away. With a colloidal silver generator you can produce all of the colloidal silver you'll ever need, any time you want, in the comfort and privacy of your own home, for only a few pennies per quart.

Owning the means of colloidal silver production is the only way to make sure you will always have access to this powerful natural healing substance, especially if the EPA bows to pressure from the environmental groups and follows through on their plans to regulate nanosilver it into oblivion.

Learn More...

Read more about the science of Silver Hydrosol at www.imref.org, The Immunogenic Research Foundation.

You can read about the astonishing ability of colloidal silver to kill antibiotic-resistant superpathogens such as MRSA at the ColloidalSilverCuresMRSA.com web site by clicking here.

Finally...

For beginners, you can learn everything you need to know to get started using colloidal silver by watching the brand new, studio-quality, 60-minute Colloidal Silver Secrets Video, described at this link.

And for those who would prefer more in-depth information about colloidal silver usage, including three full chapters of in-depth dosage information, check out the newly update, 547-page edition of The Ultimate Colloidal Silver Manual by clicking here.

Regards,
S. Spencer Jones
[link to www.LifeandHealthResearchGroup.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


GAH!!! Is there anyway to stop this??? MORONS.

I think I will be stocking up on it.
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P.S. I believe this has something to do with the fact that this works against H5N1/Bird Flu....
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my friend swears by CS.

hey remember this guy? he fucked up big time didnt he? chuckle

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I have a silver dollar in my water filter. It's
how the settlers used to keep their water free
of bacteria, etc. Works great.
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Usually coin silver is of 800 quality, it means that silver content is 800 parts per thousand 980 weight %)and the rest is lead or lead with small admixture of copper. Do test the coin if it does not contain lead, or find out in literature, so that you would not do any hram to your health. Old high amper fuses also contain silver and of verz good quality - 999.
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Excuse the use of the f word here

FUCK the EPA.
They can allow chemicals, cigarettes, fake food, toxic vaccines and so many other bad things.
FUCK them

And then take away the good stuff.

The only thing that makes me feel good is knowing when they die they will face their maker and try to explain.
Greedy FUCKS


^^^^^^ ding ding ding - hold your calls america we have a winner.
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Girl you don't know how much in common we have. I always post as AC so you wouldn't know.
I used to live in PA. Mifflin County.

Anyway .... I am glad you agree
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I have a silver dollar in my water filter. It's
how the settlers used to keep their water free
of bacteria, etc. Works great.


Usually coin silver is of 800 quality, it means that silver content is 800 parts per thousand 980 weight %)and the rest is lead or lead with small admixture of copper. Do test the coin if it does not contain lead, or find out in literature, so that you would not do any hram to your health. Old high amper fuses also contain silver and of verz good quality - 999.
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I apologize for the typos - corrected version:

Usually coin silver is of 800 quality, it means that silver content is 800 parts per thousand (80 weight %)and the rest is lead or lead with small admixture of copper. Do test the coin if it does not contain lead, or find out in literature, so that you would not do any harm to your health. Old high amper fuses also contain silver and of very good quality - 999.
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Girl you don't know how much in common we have. I always post as AC so you wouldn't know.
I used to live in PA. Mifflin County.

Anyway .... I am glad you agree
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dauphin county here. glad to know ya. ^5
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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This stuff saved my life!!! I have been battling MRSA and nealy died. Only when I started the silver did I start to recover!!! I am still having some breakouts, but am so much better than I was. I need my Colloidal Silver!!!
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I have a device so I can make my own. It takes 3 9v rechargeable batteries to operate it.
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I have been making my own for years now. And yes, you have to know how to make it properly so you don't turn blue.
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This stuff saved my life!!! I have been battling MRSA and nealy died. Only when I started the silver did I start to recover!!! I am still having some breakouts, but am so much better than I was. I need my Colloidal Silver!!!
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stock up. and also on vitamin c - bc theyre trying to ban it in canada and the US will undoubtedly follow suit.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Progressives, Feelings aren't facts. Perception is not reality. We are not responsible for your inability to comprehend the difference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
[link to www.cafepress.com]

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Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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What are they going to do, if they catch you with it? Send you to jail with rapists and muderers? So if they end up calling it a pesticide, buy it under the pretense of using it in your garden.
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What are they going to do, if they catch you with it? Send you to jail with rapists and muderers?
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is that a trick question? wink
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Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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the Q-files show tonite with hawk he did a half hour on herbal medicines and vitamins. stock up people, the shits gonna hit the fan. we're gonna need these.
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the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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when a country is greatly disoriented —as it is currently in America with regards to polarization on many issues— that it’s easy for the Government —and other powers that be— to manipulate the public with lies and deceit. This is not a new strategy, but one that has been implemented in this country —as well as others— for centuries. It’s specifically designed to control the masses by generating and perpetuating confusion. in the past the truth about certain national incidents were not found out and revealed to the public for years. Now, thanks to the internet, it takes only a few months to discover the policies and activities of our Government and mega-corporate empires —that are criminal to say the least.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Excuse the use of the f word here

FUCK the EPA.
They can allow chemicals, cigarettes, fake food, toxic vaccines and so many other bad things.
FUCK them

And then take away the good stuff.

The only thing that makes me feel good is knowing when they die they will face their maker and try to explain.
Greedy FUCKS
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you express my feeling perfectly!!
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If the FDA or, EPA(?) seeks to ban it...TAKE NOTICE and STOCK UP!

I heard that injecting Vitamin C into the blood stream will convert into Hydrogen peroxide! This is impossible to do by merely consuming Vit. C orally. Ingesting hydrogen peroxide orally will not make it to the blood stream intact. The "experimental research" of Vit. C injections was concerned with cancer treatment, if I remember correctly. This is not an endorsement to inject Vitamin C.

Please do not discriminate against or make fun of people if they are red, white, blue or any other color.
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Fuckers.

The FDA has been going after CS for awhile now. See the case against Utopia Silver in TX (one of the best CS manf along with MesoSilver) and how Ben Taylor, as a "proper person" under common law, has been fighting it for the last five + years. Great story.

FDA Commissioning State Officials - TX Case Against Colloidal Silver Distributor

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If the FDA or, EPA(?) seeks to ban it...TAKE NOTICE and STOCK UP!
 Quoting: BluBloodSmurf 593862


No! If the FDA or the EPA seek to ban CS, then

FIGHT IT with strong, collective opposition

while

stocking up (or purchasing a generator, which produces ionic silver rather than colloidal silver. Mine is a Silver Puppy, and it works great. Cured my father of debilitating rheumatoid arthritis. He is now off the methatrexate poison he has been taking for ten years.)

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If the FDA or, EPA(?) seeks to ban it...TAKE NOTICE and STOCK UP!


No! If the FDA or the EPA seek to ban CS, then

FIGHT IT with strong, collective opposition

while

stocking up (or purchasing a generator, which produces ionic silver rather than colloidal silver. Mine is a Silver Puppy, and it works great. Cured my father of debilitating rheumatoid arthritis. He is now off the methatrexate poison he has been taking for ten years.)

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 Quoting: TX PATRIOT 586184

Okay, okay. FIGHT IT! I am saying stock up FIRST. Then, while everyone is sharpening their pitchforks and lawfully assembling in the streets in protest, or whatever process it would take to overturn the injustice, you will have your preparation information and/or prepurchased CS to get you through and over the hill.
Us smurfs are generally over flouridated and chemtrailed fumegated and are unable to protest 3ffectively due to our lethargy and blue blood.





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