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Empathy in Israel for Palestinian civilian casualties

 
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The deaths of hundreds of Palestinian civilians in Gaza, including women and children, has appalled Israelis, but most want their army to push on until Hamas' military capacity is broken.

"I feel for them, especially the mothers," said Dana Ruppin, a young Israeli mother of three in Jerusalem, referring this week to residents of the Gaza Strip.

The televised scenes of death and suffering among Palestinian civilians in the current Israeli incursion have appalled much of the world and have appalled Israelis too, eliciting calls among some for an end to the fighting.

Most, however, continue to support the operation.

"I feel sorry for the people of Gaza," wrote columnist Yoel Marcus in Ha'aretz this week, "but I feel even sorrier for the civilian population of southern Israel which has been bombarded by rockets for the last eight years."

A poll published last week, ten days into the Gaza operation, showed 92 percent of the population supports it, including the week-long air force strike that took hundreds of lives. In fact, 80 percent said the operation should continue even if Hamas agreed to stop firing rockets.

However, this sentiment appears to be shifting in recent days as the percentage of civilians, particularly children, among Palestinian casualties rises substantially. Israel has made efforts to reduce civilian losses by making thousands of telephone calls to residents of buildings slated for bombing and warning them to leave buildings targeted because they contained arms caches or Hamas commanders. In other cases, leaflets were dropped to warn residents of entire neighborhoods to leave. Despite these precautions, however, the bombing took a heavy toll of innocents.

"We prefer to choose a future that has not been built on the corpses of young souls, even if those are our enemy's children," wrote Etgar Keret and Shira Geffen, well known Israeli writers in an article in Yedidot Achronot. "The war we are fighting is not only for our lives and land; it's also a war for our identity."

The couple, parents of young children, noted that a few years ago the killing of Palestinian civilians during targeted attacks on terrorists so-called "collateral damage" was the subject of intense moral debate in Israel. "It appears as though the consensus has slowly crawled in a direction that enables us to accept, relatively easily, all those things that a few years ago we were not able to digest."

Israeli officials say the deaths of hundreds of civilians in Gaza are due to the cynical placement by Hamas of arms caches and command posts in civilian houses and mosques. Israel's ambassador to the UN, Gabriela Shalev, filed a complaint Tuesday with the Security Council against what she termed Hamas' use of civilians as human shields. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert acknowledged this week that "difficult" things were being inflicted on Gaza's population but said that it was necessary to continue fighting in order to end the threat from Hamas.

Nevertheless, there is widespread discomfort over the scenes from Gaza even among those who support the continuation of the operation. A resident of Kibbutz Nahal Oz, which borders the Gaza Strip and has been a frequent target of rocket and mortar fire, said in an interview on Israel Radio that he favoured the incursion, but that Israel must do everything possible to reduce civilian casualties. "Remember, they are our neighbors," he said.

A soldier from an engineering unit assigned to demolish a row of houses said he found it difficult. "These are people's homes," he said in a radio interview. "It's a dilemma, a real moral dilemma. But we do what we have to do."

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I am for all wars to end and humans living in peace, and the actual severe predators and conflict string pullers thrown out of earth, whichever side they are on and how hidden and secret they might be, my stance doesn't always align to political factions lol.
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Crocodile tears are worthless.

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Crocodile tears are worthless.

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Israelis have humans too, I don't blame the average citizen there except those that openly drool about murdered children and civilians ...
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Let us not forget how many governments of the world believe Israel to be a corrupt leadership, and wish for the regime currently occupying Israel's destruction.Who will attempt to remove that regime??

Then, too, so many believe the US Govt is corrupt to it's core. Who will attempt to decapitate it?

Iran? Russia? China?
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Crocodile tears are worthless.

Israelis have humans too, I don't blame the average citizen there except those that openly drool about murdered children and civilians ...
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They feel Gaza'a pain? Wow...sounds like Bill Clinton.

They hate to see women and children get blown to bits but "oh well shit happens"? "but most want their army to push on until Hamas' military capacity is broken"

Just see this for what it is. These people haven't said a word until they blew up one too many UN buildings. So the zionists finally got a little tense over all the bad PR and anti-Israeli protests around the world. I wouldn't doubt if Israel gave the order to those people to act all concerned to hide their true feeling of sheer joy at the bloodshed.

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Crocodile tears are worthless.

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Israelis have humans too, I don't blame the average citizen there except those that openly drool about murdered children and civilians ...
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Of course Israelis have humans too! They perform menial labourius tasks and jobs that Israelis don't want to do!

Israelis are like the Americans of the Middle East!
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Let us not forget how many governments of the world believe Israel to be a corrupt leadership, and wish for the regime currently occupying Israel's destruction.Who will attempt to remove that regime??

Then, too, so many believe the US Govt is corrupt to it's core. Who will attempt to decapitate it?

Iran? Russia? China?
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Rota I think that's just what the article is emphasizing to please the zionazis, and Israelis are under the poopaganda thumb since decades too so I strongly believe they have folks there that see through the BS.

Of course then there are reportedly those who cheer and applaud every blast sitting on hills in chairs watching the war spectacle with coke and sandwiches i their hands ....
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At lesat one admits it.

""The war we are fighting is not only for our lives and land; it's also a war for our identity.""



The deaths of hundreds of Palestinian civilians in Gaza, including women and children, has appalled Israelis, but most want their army to push on until Hamas' military capacity is broken.

"I feel for them, especially the mothers," said Dana Ruppin, a young Israeli mother of three in Jerusalem, referring this week to residents of the Gaza Strip.

The televised scenes of death and suffering among Palestinian civilians in the current Israeli incursion have appalled much of the world and have appalled Israelis too, eliciting calls among some for an end to the fighting.

Most, however, continue to support the operation.

"I feel sorry for the people of Gaza," wrote columnist Yoel Marcus in Ha'aretz this week, "but I feel even sorrier for the civilian population of southern Israel which has been bombarded by rockets for the last eight years."

A poll published last week, ten days into the Gaza operation, showed 92 percent of the population supports it, including the week-long air force strike that took hundreds of lives. In fact, 80 percent said the operation should continue even if Hamas agreed to stop firing rockets.

However, this sentiment appears to be shifting in recent days as the percentage of civilians, particularly children, among Palestinian casualties rises substantially. Israel has made efforts to reduce civilian losses by making thousands of telephone calls to residents of buildings slated for bombing and warning them to leave buildings targeted because they contained arms caches or Hamas commanders. In other cases, leaflets were dropped to warn residents of entire neighborhoods to leave. Despite these precautions, however, the bombing took a heavy toll of innocents.

"We prefer to choose a future that has not been built on the corpses of young souls, even if those are our enemy's children," wrote Etgar Keret and Shira Geffen, well known Israeli writers in an article in Yedidot Achronot. "The war we are fighting is not only for our lives and land; it's also a war for our identity."

The couple, parents of young children, noted that a few years ago the killing of Palestinian civilians during targeted attacks on terrorists so-called "collateral damage" was the subject of intense moral debate in Israel. "It appears as though the consensus has slowly crawled in a direction that enables us to accept, relatively easily, all those things that a few years ago we were not able to digest."

Israeli officials say the deaths of hundreds of civilians in Gaza are due to the cynical placement by Hamas of arms caches and command posts in civilian houses and mosques. Israel's ambassador to the UN, Gabriela Shalev, filed a complaint Tuesday with the Security Council against what she termed Hamas' use of civilians as human shields. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert acknowledged this week that "difficult" things were being inflicted on Gaza's population but said that it was necessary to continue fighting in order to end the threat from Hamas.

Nevertheless, there is widespread discomfort over the scenes from Gaza even among those who support the continuation of the operation. A resident of Kibbutz Nahal Oz, which borders the Gaza Strip and has been a frequent target of rocket and mortar fire, said in an interview on Israel Radio that he favoured the incursion, but that Israel must do everything possible to reduce civilian casualties. "Remember, they are our neighbors," he said.

A soldier from an engineering unit assigned to demolish a row of houses said he found it difficult. "These are people's homes," he said in a radio interview. "It's a dilemma, a real moral dilemma. But we do what we have to do."

Abraham Rabinovich for RT
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Israelis are human beings - naturally the have compassion for the suffering of others - no matter how self inflicted.

Muslims however are famous for dancing in the streets, when infidels are killed - why would they grieve for infidels? - are they not apes and pigs? - does not allah curse them? - are they not fit only for hell?

The 'Golden rule' applies only to other Muslims - hence you will never see Muslims giving money to international charities or disaster relief.
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Muslims however are famous for dancing in the streets, when infidels are killed -
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Idiot, that was staged by western media, pics always showed a few guys that even didn't know what they were cheering for.

Next try please ...
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If I remember correctly, it was Israeli's who were dancing and high 5in when the towers went down and the goyims died.


The FBI came to the conclusion... that the five Israelis arrested in New Jersey last September were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission
and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, N.J., served as a front. -Forward (A Jewish Magazine) March 15, 2002


"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." --US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report (that was later erased from the Fox News website) on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.
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If I remember correctly, it was Israeli's who were dancing and high 5in when the towers went down and the goyims died.


The FBI came to the conclusion... that the five Israelis arrested in New Jersey last September were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission
and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, N.J., served as a front. -Forward (A Jewish Magazine) March 15, 2002


"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." --US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report (that was later erased from the Fox News website) on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.
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Exactly, all Israel does still is to distract from their 911 crime ...
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Let's remember here.

I can remember seeing people in India and a couple other countries all happy and dancing when that happen to. bastards all around.
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If I remember correctly, it was Israeli's who were dancing and high 5in when the towers went down and the goyims died.


The FBI came to the conclusion... that the five Israelis arrested in New Jersey last September were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission
and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, N.J., served as a front. -Forward (A Jewish Magazine) March 15, 2002


"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." --US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report (that was later erased from the Fox News website) on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.
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Yup those 5 guys were sent to record what happen by the MOSSAD, they were even interviewed on TV and said that. The reason anything beyond their own public disclosures is classified is because the idiots in our Gov't and Intelligence agencies don't want to look like the complete retards they are. They Ignored, or generally fucked up in one way or another at least 2 very solid warnings from the MOSSAD that an attack was going to occur, one in Egypt and at least one in Germany, directly conveyed to our own CIA station chiefs there. Shit the one in Egypt was even publically disclosed by the President of Egypt, don't hear much about that do we. Fuckin imbeciles just doing CYA for their own fuck ups.
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Let us not forget how many governments of the world believe Israel to be a corrupt leadership, and wish for the regime currently occupying Israel's destruction.Who will attempt to remove that regime??


Name em...

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What bragging? Because I ask for something to substantiate a claim? I will only brag when a list containing Islamic Kingdoms, fanatical Oligarchies and countries run by various others who are not in the freedom or human rights business is the sum total for that "let us not forget how many" crapola.

Here ya go...how about this abuse of power?



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Exactly, all Israel does still is to distract from their 911 crime ...
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And what crime would that be?
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Exactly, all Israel does still is to distract from their 911 crime ...

And what crime would that be?
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He will regret ever saying those words...

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Israelis are human beings - naturally the have compassion for the suffering of others - no matter how self inflicted.

Muslims however are famous for dancing in the streets, when infidels are killed - why would they grieve for infidels? - are they not apes and pigs? - does not allah curse them? - are they not fit only for hell?

The 'Golden rule' applies only to other Muslims - hence you will never see Muslims giving money to international charities or disaster relief.
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Reminds me of 9 11 'fiddlers on the roof' rofl





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