Alien artifacts discovered underneath crop circles

Very cool.
I wonder if this the first time a metal detector has been used.

I'd imagine the poor 'alien' got an ass kicking for losing the plates!
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... this is the FIRST time they used metal detectors in a crop circle? ...
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... the "plates" are of bronze/silver/gold? ...
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... 1991? ...
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... and what was the message in the old Celtic language? ...
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... very interesting ...

id like to find an update on this to see how they determined the artifacts. and where theyre at now

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You have no idea how much this means to me,

thank you sooo much for posting/sharing this P!

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im trying t find an update on this - if you find any, please post it here. thanks

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This was posted next to the video

a link
[link to www.alienufosecret.eu]

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3 Metal discs found in the Grasdorf Pictogram, Germany 1991

The farmer Werner Harenberg woke up early in the morning of July 23 1991 to discover Germany's first really spectacular crop circle near the village of Grasdorf, Lower Saxony in the historic Teutoburger Wald Area, not far from Hannover, and indeed not far from the prehistoric site of Externsteine, part natural rock, part carvings, caves and bearing various signs of what seems like long and varied religious practices; and seeing that the straws were unbroken, as it were, harmoniously bended, he stated as much as that it could not have been made by amateurs such as had recently allegedly been at play further north in Schleswig-Holstein. Taking advice from the experience of landowners there he charged visitors five DM – three Euro.

The Grasdorf pictogram appeared at 23 July 1991
Photo:



One of these visitors, a man wearing a house painter's outfit and a hanging moustache, turned up nine days later bringing along, like many others, his metal detector – he searched all nine parts of the pictogram dropping a handkerchief in three spots as mark – all of them (see picture) had a spherical symbol, less than a semi-circle attached to it. Then he went to his car to pick up a digging tool and a bucket unearthing first what came to be known as The Bronze Plate (Tablet) at the circle furthest from the forest line, then the gold plate at circle no.

"he searched all nine parts of the pictogram dropping a handkerchief in three spots as mark " all of them (see picture) had a spherical symbol, less than a semi-circle attached to it"




One of the three discs found in the Grasdorf pictogram:



Three counted from the road and lastly the silver plate at the first circle, which is formed as a sickle. There were people present witnessing all this; he drove home - as the saying goes, for his whereabouts and identity have not been disclosed – cleaning the plates, and later, on impulse or with selling in mind – he (must have) split the gold plate in half. At least that's what he told the man who bought the two and a half plates, a man who prefers anonymity; he is described as a man of considerable wealth and of high position, as an industrialist; nevertheless he had two of the plates, the bronze and the silver ones, analysed on a number of occasions, first at a private jeweller's, then at the German Technical Institute's department for research in metallurgy in Berlin. The silver plate consisted of almost 100 per cent pure silver, which is highly unusual – artefacts from Roman times, about 2.000 years old, may contain as much. The bronze plate did contain bronze and tin in the usual nine to one relation.

Where are the plates, then, is the obvious question; they are still in the possession of this industrialist, one must assume, photos do exist, something he did not object to, either, especially of the bronze and silver ones. The gold plate remains the biggest mystery of the three; it has not been analysed and a photo show only half of it. The mystery being that all three plates, including the gold plate, as far as photos show, bear engravings, elevations representing miniatures of the actual crop circle, the bronze and silver plates being both 23 cm in circumference weighing three and half and five kilos respectively. The bronze plate furthermore has several hollows placed in distances clearly suggesting a heaven of fixed stars. The gold plate is 18 cm and weighs seven or eight kilos, according to Markus Schlottig, who has written a book dealing largely with the Grasdorf crop circle "Der Schlüssel zum Garten Eden" on a speculative-mythological basis. Place names such as the Idafeld - Thieberg (Thiu's mountain) even overshadowing the field itself – Hildesheim (Hild's home) and more abound in an area which might be where the Norse Gods travelling from fabled Troy to their future home in Uppsala in Sweden took up residence, as Icelandic Snorri Sturlasson suggests in the Younger Edda.


Two of the three plates from Grasdorf were presented in October
1992 at the 'Dialogue with the Universe' Conference at Dusseldorf, Germany.



The value of the plates' materials in itself has been estimated at 200.000 DM, ca. 125.000 Euro. The industrialist is quoted as saying he would pay any price, and, it is said, he has paid more. If the plates are a joke, it's an expensive one; more likely, if they are made by artisans before or in all haste after, within the nine days between the formation of the crop circle and the seemingly accidental finding of the plates – it could be an ambitious project to verify extraterrestrial origin of crop circles while at the same time creating a long-missing link from a glorious but largely unknown German prehistory to the present day:

The Aesir meet
on Idavöll
and talk about the mighty
serpent the earth-girdler
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There they will find again
the wonderful
golden board-game pieces
in the grass,
which in ancient times
they had possessed.

Without sowing
the fields will grow,
all pain will heal itself,
Baldr will come

...

Excerpts from The Seeress' Propechy in the Icelandic Elder Edda

Moreover, the pictogram itself might be divided into nine elements, nine circles – as there are definitely nine worlds in Norse mythology, there are also at least nine planets, especially if one omits for instance Pluto, even nine classes of angels in esoteric Christianity (Dionysius the Aeropagite). In conclusion: Seemingly showing no intricate, beautiful symmetry at all, no other crop circle pictogram calls more for interpretations.


Markus Schlottig: Der Schlüssel zum Garten Eden, Argo Verlag 1998

NEW: Dr. Johs. Roemer-Blum: Zeichen im Korn, Argo Verlag 2006

Werner Schäfer: Kornkreise - ein Mysterium unser Zeit, Novalis 2003

Magazin 2000Plus no. 100 (1994) with article "Goldene Täfel im Grase"
containing the first comprehensive description of the circumstances of the finding of the plates is unfortunately sold out



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hey thanks i missed this

[link to www.beyondweird.com]

Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Underground Facilities (SCIFs) at
Los Alamos National Lab where "Alien" artifacts are kept ??

by Robert M. Collins



After the supposed "alien" artifacts were moved out of WPAFB, Ohio in the
1982/83 time frame the next question would be: Where did they go? Well,
two places have been reported: the NSA facility at Ft Huachuca in Arizona
and Los Alamos National Labs, New Mexico. Very little is known about the
move to Ft Huachuca so we focused instead on Los Alamos but even here
there is much less known about this facility than the "vault" system at
WPAFB. Note: There were reported "alien" artifacts already at Los Alamos
before this reported move took place.

Fig. 1 (20k) shows the area adjacent to the Bandelier National Forest on
Rt. 4 (forest location & Los Alamos Nat'l. Lab shown on the map (16k)
circled in red). In Fig. 1 (20k) one can see a bunker. This bunker is
representative of the many bunkers that dot the side of this ridge and
valley area. Located just over the hill area where this bunker lies is
a huge hangar bay door (not shown) according to a Ret. AF Lt. Col. Fig 2
(20k) shows Tech Area 33 entry way at Los Alamos. Also, See TA33
MapLink below for layout of TA33.

Note: The TA 33 Map does not show the reported road described here
which might, like at WPAFB or Area 51, was never put on a Map or it
was removed from the Map.

The road (not shown) just west of this TA33 entry reportedly leads
in one direction off to the left and down to a huge bay door on the
bottom "south" ridge area according to this same AF Lt. Col.
Through this bay door is said to be were many of the recovered
"alien" artifacts were brought in. One example of this is when they
would try to bring recovered "saucers" through this bay door and
more often than not they would have to "tilt" the recovered "saucer"
up on its side to get it through the door. This huge bay door entry
is said to lead to a multi level underground structure: Note, this
structure is not located in TA33: The entry just west of TA33 is
the reported entry circa 1978.

Another underground complex is part of a greater complex called "Dulce"
(this was the code name). The "Dulce Complex" , or Tech Area 53 is
composed of sixty buildings: some are underground, some are revetments,
and some are bunkers. Badges with a color security system is in effect.
All this according to a key government source who had been there in
circa 1978/79. His words to me: "You should have seen what I have seen."
The underground part of the facility is reportedly through a huge
vaulted door: This Tech Area 53 lies about ~ 4 miles from the national
forest. This area also lies on the edge of the main LANL complex (see
map (20k) ). On the LANL URL map link below you will see that Tech Area
53 is labeled as the Meson Physics Tech Area: Reportedly, that's only
what the main above ground complex is for.

Note: In addition to the "Dulce Complex" there was a reported
newer structure built in the late seventies that was described
as a three story underground facility. This facility may or may
not be physically connected to the "Dulce Complex."

If, the big bay door entry represents the "back door" in this other
Mesa complex next to the Bandelier forest then the "front door entry"
is suspected to be back down the hill going in an easterly direction
away from TA 33 along Rt. 4. At the bottom of this hill located in a
canyon area is another controlled Tech Area: See LANL Map Link below.
This Tech Area or the "Bay Door" entry just west of Tech Area 33 is
reportedly connected to this Mesa complex next to the national forest:
This may or may not be connected to the "Dulce Complex" in area 53.

Note: Recent information (08-08-96) has come along that seems
to confirm some of what is written here: In one case a Ret
Engineer states (2nd hand here) he worked on Disc simulators at
LANL in the early fifties. He is said to have stated that this
underground facility is under one of the Mesas and is accessed
from a side canyon. He also commented that large rooms had been
blasted out of rock to the tune of being "football field sized."
But, he wouldn't say exactly where it was. Aside comment: This
sounds very much like the reported Complex lll description and
perhaps the reported underground mountain facility in Area 53 or
the stated Mesa Complex next to the national forest: See below
for Complex lll.

Another tibit of information (3rd hand in this case) came
from the retired head of security at LANL: He is quoted to have
said that there was "ET stuff" at LANL and its presence was part
of his biggest security problems. The problem wasn't the Soviets
as it was teenaged LANL dependents who would go off into these
canyons surrounded by the "Mesas" for the usual teenaged mischief.
On a number of occasions he was quoted to have said that these
kids got dangerouly close to the access points of this facility.
On a LANL map the community of White Rock is just northeast
and close to TA33 and TA39.

People who have worked in Tech Area 33 know about underground facilities
there (not related to this subject) but, are not apparently aware of just
whats behind that huge bay door which according to this same Ret. AF Lt.
Col. lies further down the ridge line. And, just like at WPAFB, Ohio, an
estimated 99+% of the people assigned to Los Alamos Labs don't know of
the existence of this reported back entry huge "Bay Door." Or, if they
knew of it they don't know what its used for -- or no "Need to Know."

According to our key government source another facility called Complex
lll or C lll is where the first reported EBE was kept. C lll or Complex
lll was also said to be the first underground facility built at Los
Alamos in the very early fifties. According to reports, Complex lll was
and still is the largest underground military facility in the world:
It was built to withstand a direct five megaton nuclear explosion. The
facility was built to continue nuclear research even after a war. It
has a reported size of 10 football fields. It comes fully equipped
with a series of rooms, research labs, and other necessities situated
~ 150 ft underground.

Continuing; EBE-1 was said to have been kept in Complex lll until it
reportedly died on June 18th, 1952 from an unknown illness. An old
Army/Air Force brown shoe Ret. Col. who reportedly lived with EBE-1 for
three years from 1949 to 1952 lives in Phoenix, Arizona with his
daughter at last reports. Eight years ago he was quoted to have said,
"There isn't day in my life that I don't think about this." But, he
wouldn't talk to you unless you were "cleared." And since he has been
suffering with terminal cancer he may be deceased at this point. But,
according to this same government source there was a 16 mm film history
made of those three years with EBE-1 and he saw a segment of it. That
16 mm film was later transferred to video tape. In the original 16mm
version it was said that in one scene EBE-1 was standing up on a box
and our brown shoe Col had asked EBE-1 to turn around: EBE-1 then
proceeded to turn around on the box: Source said it was pretty
amazing ! It was reported that EBE-1's speciality was a mechanic.

Our chief scientist who heads the division within this facility six
etc levels from the surface has reportedly been in this business for
over forty years. His knowledge in this area is considered vast to say
the least. He has stated that he spends about 70% of his time on this
subject and the remaining time on other technical or management
problems. In February 1990 he said that some of our people have gone
to the "Zeta Reticuli Star System" and some of "theirs" have stayed
with us.

Note: See URL: [link to www.qtm.net]

for further information on the Zeta Reticuli Star System.

But, under no circumstances will he come out into the open:
And will only talk to people who are "cleared." There have been
reports that our chief scientist has a background in Astrophysics or
"Bio-Astrophysics." It has been estimated that this chief scientist
was in his late twenties when he took over the program in circa 1953
to the chagrin of many of the more senior scientists.

For an example of what was reportedly moved from WPAFB to Los Alamos or Ft
Huachuca please see the following URLs:

1. [link to www.execpc.com]

2. [link to www.iscni.com]

As a casual remark in this brief report I wish to point out that the Top
Secret/Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Vaulted Libraries, (TS/SCI
Libraries) on this subject have been reported to be at Sandia and Los
Alamos Labs, New Mexico, and the NSA facility at Ft Huachuca, Arizona. Some
material is still believed to be at the National Air Intelligence Center
(NAIC) WPAFB, Dayton, Ohio. And lastly, there is a reported TS/SCI vaulted
library in a government building near the "Mall" in Washington DC. This
facility was visited by one of our sources in August of 1995. Laying in the
floor area of one of the main entries to this building is a game board
called "King's Table." This board game is often referred to as the "Viking
Game" and dates back at least 1500 years. See URL:

[link to www.pbm.com]

It might interest the reader to attempt to decipher the supposed
relationship between this board game and the suspected "alien" presence on
this planet and the games that get played. Hint, we strongly suspect there
is a relationship. The game looks basic and simple but we don't believe it
is: Just like real life games.

So, these are the details up to this point. Certain types of information
has been left out and other information is not available. If more details
do become available on locations and facilities we might want to be
cautious less some well intentioned but unwelcome people show-up there.
The "Dulce" facility is assumed to be very active.

Finally, we are being told by Gov Intell Sources that for the disclosure
process "everything" is "set" and "in place," "ready to go." In fact, they
state that "it's already in motion." This report is certainly more
"speculative" than previous ones but, there is high confidence here in the
sources and data which have been shown to be right than before. We will attempt
in every way possible to keep the readers up to date -- but, only if they
don't expect "the world."

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Good, then the artifacts are safe.

Would be catastrophic if a fat german sat on them and held them off Intel in some freaking private dusty corner somewhere.

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I will post - or not haha - about things that are connected to this, that is why I reacted so much seeing this.


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"As a casual remark in this brief report I wish to point out that the Top
Secret/Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Vaulted Libraries, (TS/SCI
Libraries) on this subject have been reported to be at Sandia and Los
Alamos Labs, New Mexico, and the NSA facility at Ft Huachuca, Arizona. Some
material is still believed to be at the National Air Intelligence Center
(NAIC) WPAFB, Dayton, Ohio. And lastly, there is a reported TS/SCI vaulted
library in a government building near the "Mall" in Washington DC. This
facility was visited by one of our sources in August of 1995.

Laying in the
floor area of one of the main entries to this building is a game board called

"King's Table."

This board game is often referred to as the "Viking Game"
and dates back at least 1500 years. See URL:

[link to www.pbm.com]


:asmswe:


It might interest the reader to attempt to decipher the supposed
relationship between this board game and the suspected "alien" presence on
this planet and the games that get played.

Hint, we strongly suspect there
is a relationship. :adarthv:

The game looks basic and simple but we don't believe it
is: Just like real life games.

So, these are the details up to this point. Certain types of information
has been left out and other information is not available. If more details
do become available on locations and facilities we might want to be
cautious less some well intentioned but unwelcome people show-up there.
The "Dulce" facility is assumed to be very active.



Finally, we are being told by Gov Intell Sources that for the disclosure
process "everything" is "set" and "in place," "ready to go."
In fact, they
state that "it's already in motion."

This report is certainly more
"speculative" than previous ones but, there is high confidence here in the
sources and data which have been shown to be right than before. We will attempt
in every way possible to keep the readers up to date -- but, only if they
don't expect "the world."// ......."


Viking game?!

Gonna look closer on that Code.


Thank you P :)

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Add to the thing in Blue, I highlighted above:

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On 'the Celtic Attic' is a 'new and exciting way to look into our future' (see ad on top)

[link to www.celticattic.com]


Hmm I posted about Chess tonight,
but in this case - it is the King it is about,

"True to the Viking culture of 1500 years ago,
the teams are unequally matched in this strategy game.
The King of Sweden sits in the middle of the board,
guarded by 8 defenders and surrounded by 16 Muscovite attackers.
Can you get the King to safety in one of the corners before he is captured?"

[link to www.renfairegames.com]

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Which I find peculiar,

the Queen must be hidden -

in Viking culture, the female wasnt submissive or unimportant.

Now, isnt that interesting...


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Another idea: The three plates were left by the circle makers or aliens for psychometrically gifted persons to 'communicate' with them. The three different metals could corroborate the impressions received from the plates.The coding on the plates refers to comets striking the earth in the future. The four circles connected by four lines mean that four comets with a common purpose will be impacting the earth. Next, the trajectories of three comets around the sun are shown; the fourth comet with the partial coma strikes first but doesn't go around the sun. Last, the angles of the comets relative to each other are indicated. The comets striking first have the partial comas. A book titled "The Heck Hypothesis" will be published this Spring by Xlibris which interprets over 1000 crop circles, including this one, in this way.

The video has been removed.... poop!

What complete

the above was removed by youtube heres an updated url

[link to youtube.com]