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capt. fishsticks User ID: 56925 United States 01/19/2009 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...most definitely, 100% fact...i mean i can't count the amount of species morphing (or in the process of morphing) into another species all the the time...first, there is the...and then there is...ah, what the hell are we talking about???... ...children of apes and pigs... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 595375 United States 01/19/2009 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | macro-evolution is a theory not a fact and a very weak theory at that since it cannot even be observed. The very thing that even gives it a chance of being probable(anything that does not have zero chance happens 'theory') is the very thing that makes it more likely there is a god, actually makes it 100% likely there is a god. but of course this is too unpalatable for atheist, so back to square one. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 585002 United States 01/20/2009 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Creationism is total crap... Evolution is crap too.. but its based on a bit of science.. so that elevates it up above creationism.. to a level of a "swiss cheese theory" - full of holes. This is more of the establishment controlled line of thinking... If you don't believe in creationism - you must believe in evolution. If you don't believe in evolution - you must believe in creationism. I say bullshit to both... No other theories are allowed to be considered...and that my friends is BAD SCIENCE! |
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422730 User ID: 562416 Australia 01/20/2009 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evolution is neither fact nor is there enough time for it to have happened, as the presentation shows. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596456If knowledge at the present is complete, absolute and accurate then you might have a case but as it stands you don't. It means that there's more work to do, not to give up and start a faith. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 596456 United States 01/20/2009 04:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: entropy Archaeopteryx, along with all perching birds, has what is called a grasping hallux, or hind toe, pointing backwards. Rearward-facing toes may be found in some of the dinosaurs but not a true grasping hallux with curved claws for perching. Archaeopteryx has a robust wishbone [furcula]. Some recent fascinating studies using moving X-rays of birds as they fly show how the shoulder girdle has to be flexible to cope with the incredible forces of the power-stroke in flight. You can actually see the wishbone flex with each wing-beat. Archaeopteryx was not the only fossil bird to have had grasping teeth. Some fossil birds had teeth, some didn’t. But how can teeth prove a relationship to reptiles, when many reptiles don’t have teeth? Crocodiles are really the only group of reptiles that consistently have very well developed teeth. And of course even some mammals have teeth and some don’t. The general consensus now is that the brain is essentially that of a flying bird, with a large cerebellum and visual cortex. Also, in most vertebrates, including reptiles, the mandible (lower jaw) moves, but in birds (including Archaeopteryx) so does the maxilla (upper jaw). -Dr. David Menton is Associate Professor of Anatomy at the Washington University Also, factor that the fossils come from Bavaria, Germany, a stronghold of the Jesuits, who have used evolution for their Marxist counter-reformation against Bible believing Christianity. They have been caught faking fossils. [link to www.answersingenesis.org] [link to www.paleodirect.com] Any claims of ancient bird is an erronious date as the op presentation demonstrates. Without an old earth there was no evolution. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 596456 United States 01/20/2009 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evolution is neither fact nor is there enough time for it to have happened, as the presentation shows. Quoting: 422730 562416:::::::::::::::::::::::: If knowledge at the present is complete, absolute and accurate then you might have a case but as it stands you don't. It means that there's more work to do, not to give up and start a faith. I'm afraid you just fail to understand the science behind creationism. Observible lab testable science confirms or agrees with creation, as the op presentation exaustively shows using several top scientist and college professors of Europe. The flood science they present is rather long but needed to destroy that dating method. They show fossils on the bottom layers of the geocolumn could actually be older that those on the top, due to sedimentary layering processes of flood waters. So much more could have been presented, such as how fossils form rapidly, not over millions of years that never happened. |
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CelticLegends User ID: 594757 United Kingdom 01/20/2009 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The op video shows with controlled lab experiments how sedimentary layers can't be used to date anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596456Also, problems with all elemental dating methods. And finally that there's just no evidence of any beneficial mutations. What about the "almost-immortal jellyfish" I saw a story about a few weeks ago? A creature that apparently turns back into a youth when times are hard. It is the Thunderbolt that steers the Universe - Heraclitus |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 596456 United States 01/20/2009 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: DrPostman Natural selection does not produce new genetic information. Also, there were no 80 million years as supposed in the articles claims, both the op presentation points out. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 596456 United States 01/20/2009 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.physorg.com] Quoting: DrPostmanNatural selection does not produce new genetic information. Also, there were no 80 million years as supposed in the articles claims, both the op presentation points out. And fails. Only religious fools believe the Earth is less than 10,000 years old. Evolutionist are among the most religious, believing what the institutions tell them. These OP scientist correct the record with lab experiments and you dogmatically hold your belief. They show the geocolumn for what it is! And all elemental dating too! Then present natural lab testable dating methods anyone can do. Such as, they show how on more than one occasion lava with a known age of 200 years is elemental dated and gives readings from 200 million to 3 billion years old. It is you who fails. Evolution is a tool of the new world order, that's all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 558754 Netherlands 01/20/2009 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | macro-evolution.....wishful thinking I'd call it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596724micro-evolution is pretty self evident Where is exactly the line between macro and micro evolution? What is the minimum difference to be considered macro evolution and what is the maximum difference to be considered micro evolution? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 558754 Netherlands 01/20/2009 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evolutionist are among the most religious, believing what the institutions tell them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596456These OP scientist correct the record with lab experiments and you dogmatically hold your belief. They show the geocolumn for what it is! And all elemental dating too! Then present natural lab testable dating methods anyone can do. Such as, they show how on more than one occasion lava with a known age of 200 years is elemental dated and gives readings from 200 million to 3 billion years old. It is you who fails. Evolution is a tool of the new world order, that's all. re·li·gious (r-ljs) adj. 1. Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity. 2. Of, concerned with, or teaching religion: a religious text. 3. Extremely scrupulous or conscientious: religious devotion to duty. n. pl. religious A member of a monastic order, especially a nun or monk. How does the theory of evolution fit into that? Oh wait it doesn't.... Elemental dating? Wuts that? Looking at a fire or water and determine the age? You mean radioactive dating? Besides there are known factors that influence radioactive dating and in most cases multiple dating mechanisms are used to determine a date... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 596456 United States 01/20/2009 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evolutionist are among the most religious, believing what the institutions tell them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 558754These OP scientist correct the record with lab experiments and you dogmatically hold your belief. They show the geocolumn for what it is! And all elemental dating too! Then present natural lab testable dating methods anyone can do. Such as, they show how on more than one occasion lava with a known age of 200 years is elemental dated and gives readings from 200 million to 3 billion years old. It is you who fails. Evolution is a tool of the new world order, that's all. :::::::::::::::::::::: re·li·gious (r-ljs) adj. 1. Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity. 2. Of, concerned with, or teaching religion: a religious text. 3. Extremely scrupulous or conscientious: religious devotion to duty. n. pl. religious A member of a monastic order, especially a nun or monk. How does the theory of evolution fit into that? Oh wait it doesn't.... You would be looking for the definition of "religion" not religious. Evolution is the belief of all the pagan religions, and that is who is propagating it, the pagan Roman Jesuits for their Roman Empire / NWO. Elemental dating? Wuts that? Looking at a fire or water and determine the age? You mean radioactive dating? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 558754Besides there are known factors that influence radioactive dating and in most cases multiple dating mechanisms are used to determine a date... Elements potassium and uranium are radioactive dated. These are subject to weather conditions. The other confirmation method is the geocolumn. As shown in the op presentation neither can be used. As already pointed out the geocolumn layers are flood sediment, and flood models in lab conditions have shown given assumptions are incorrect. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 596456 United States 01/20/2009 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | macro-evolution.....wishful thinking I'd call it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 558754micro-evolution is pretty self evident ::::::::::::::::::::::::: Where is exactly the line between macro and micro evolution? What is the minimum difference to be considered macro evolution and what is the maximum difference to be considered micro evolution? I agree the term micro-evolution is misleading as no permanent evolution has happened with genetic variation as found with the various breeds of creatures. Ask any child the difference between a dog and a cat! This is what you ask. The op presentation shows how isolated genetic separation leads to what we find today among the races of man, for example, having nothing to do with evolution. |