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a User ID: 598727 ![]() 01/26/2009 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ynetnews.com] Israel's sex trade booming Human trafficking in Israel rakes in more than USD billion a year, findings in annual parliamentary survey show By Miri Hasson Published: 03.23.05, 12:44 / Israel News TEL AVIV - Thousands of women are being smuggled into Israel, creating a booming sex trade industry that rakes more than USD one billion a year, a parliamentary committee said on Wednesday. The Parliamentary Inquiry Committee, headed by Knesset member Zehava Galon of the left-wing Yahad party, commissioned the report in an effort to combat the sex trade in Israel. Findings showed that some 3,000 and 5,000 women are smuggled to Israel annually and sold into the prostitution industry, where they are constantly subjected to violence and abuse. The report, issued annually, said some 10,000 such women currently reside in about 300 to 400 brothels throughout the country. They are traded for about USD 8,000 – USD 10,000, the committee said. The U.S. State Department ranks Israel in the second tier of human trafficking around the world, saying the Jewish State does not maintain minimal conditions regarding the issue but is working to improve them. Israel passed a law in 2003 that would allow the state to confiscate the profits of traffickers, but watchdog groups say it is rarely enforced. |
JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/26/2009 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hiding from the fatwah Quoting: Bob Saget:chair: So now it's a hate crime repeat what a sheik says? Gee!! It's worst then I thought! ![]() Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
a User ID: 598727 ![]() 01/26/2009 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ynetnews.com] should israelis preach about morality? |
a User ID: 598727 ![]() 01/26/2009 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Israel, thousands of young people are working as prostitutes, but only one center exists to help them turn their lives around. The center hopes to expand from Tel Aviv to other cities and reach out to more pre-teens and teens in "the life." [link to www.womensenews.org] of course, prostitution is much healthier as getting married at young age |
JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/26/2009 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Customers would beat us. They had special instruments. They would drip hot wax all over my body and force me to do painful, degrading things. Of course they enjoyed it—they paid extra for it.” Quoting: a 598727[link to www.ynetnews.com] should israelis preach about morality? At least their clerics don't advocate it... + they are working to correct this problem.. Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/26/2009 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Israel, thousands of young people are working as prostitutes, but only one center exists to help them turn their lives around. The center hopes to expand from Tel Aviv to other cities and reach out to more pre-teens and teens in "the life." Quoting: a 598727[link to www.womensenews.org] of course, prostitution is much healthier as getting married at young age 10 years old?..well whatever turns you on!!! Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
a User ID: 598727 ![]() 01/26/2009 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel Sex Slavery Thrives Tel Aviv area has three red light areas - the old central bus station, the office skycraper section of Ramat Gan and the beaches of nearby Tel Baruch. Most of the brothel-lined streets by the old central bus station are filthy, the buildings run-down. Trails of red arrows painted on the walls lead customers to sex "health clubs" and "massage parlors," all marked out by twinkling strips of colored lights that flash their patterns like cuttlefish enticing their prey. The billboard for "5 Star Peep Show" on Neve Sha’anan street features the silhouette of a naked woman balanced precariously on the end of a dollar sign. She sits astride the bottom curve of the "S," straddling its final phallus-shaped curl. The Israel sex silhouettes are everywhere. On Rehov Fin—better known as "Rehov Pin" or "Penis" —a reclining nude beckons clients into "Club Viagra." On Rehov Yesod Ha Ma’ale the floating nude in one "Health Club" window tilts her head back as though in the throes of ecstasy, her feet pointed in the direction of a neighboring falafel stand. The real women don’t seem quite so eager. Through open doorways one can spot them glumly applying make-up or styling their hair. Sometimes these Israel sex prostitutes can be seen in brothel windows, chatting to each other and looking out onto the street as they smoke a cigarette. Most of the windows have bars on them. "In the majority of the brothels in Tel Aviv," says Meir Cohen, Head of Investigations for the Israeli National Police, "there is no question that most of the women there are trafficked." The vast majority of women trafficked to Israel for sex come from Romania and the countries of the former Soviet Union. Seduced by agents of organized crime, they agree to be smuggled into Israel, hoping to make good money. The women are usually young girls, like "Anna" (her real name has been suppressed) a 23-year-old Romanian who testified about her experience to an Israeli court in 2002. Anna says that in 2001 she was approached in her hometown by an Israel girl named Shula, who promised to get her work caring for the elderly in Tel Aviv... [link to www.israelnewsagency.com] |
JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/26/2009 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel Sex Slavery Thrives Quoting: a 598727Tel Aviv area has three red light areas - the old central bus station, the office skycraper section of Ramat Gan and the beaches of nearby Tel Baruch. Most of the brothel-lined streets by the old central bus station are filthy, the buildings run-down. Trails of red arrows painted on the walls lead customers to sex "health clubs" and "massage parlors," all marked out by twinkling strips of colored lights that flash their patterns like cuttlefish enticing their prey. The billboard for "5 Star Peep Show" on Neve Sha’anan street features the silhouette of a naked woman balanced precariously on the end of a dollar sign. She sits astride the bottom curve of the "S," straddling its final phallus-shaped curl. The Israel sex silhouettes are everywhere. On Rehov Fin—better known as "Rehov Pin" or "Penis" —a reclining nude beckons clients into "Club Viagra." On Rehov Yesod Ha Ma’ale the floating nude in one "Health Club" window tilts her head back as though in the throes of ecstasy, her feet pointed in the direction of a neighboring falafel stand. The real women don’t seem quite so eager. Through open doorways one can spot them glumly applying make-up or styling their hair. Sometimes these Israel sex prostitutes can be seen in brothel windows, chatting to each other and looking out onto the street as they smoke a cigarette. Most of the windows have bars on them. "In the majority of the brothels in Tel Aviv," says Meir Cohen, Head of Investigations for the Israeli National Police, "there is no question that most of the women there are trafficked." The vast majority of women trafficked to Israel for sex come from Romania and the countries of the former Soviet Union. Seduced by agents of organized crime, they agree to be smuggled into Israel, hoping to make good money. The women are usually young girls, like "Anna" (her real name has been suppressed) a 23-year-old Romanian who testified about her experience to an Israeli court in 2002. Anna says that in 2001 she was approached in her hometown by an Israel girl named Shula, who promised to get her work caring for the elderly in Tel Aviv... [link to www.israelnewsagency.com] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Prostitution in the United Arab Emirates is illegal, but attracts many foreign businessmen as the UAE is slowing gaining a reputation as one of the Middle East's sex tourism destinations.[1] In 2007, the United States State Department placed the United Arab Emirates as a "Tier 2" in its annual Trafficking in Persons reports, meaning that it does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking but is making significant efforts to do so.[2] It looks like ARAB countries too have prostitution...+ they marry their daughters at ridiculous young ages.. Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/26/2009 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ddressing a recent seminar on the Travel industry, Indonesian vice president Jusuf Kalla made a very debatable remark. The VP, in quite a humorous vein said that ‘there is nothing wrong in the Arab men staying at Indonesia, paying the local women for a very short-lived married life, and then divorcing them’. This kind of marriages are the shortest I have ever heard about. Can you imagine anyone being paid for one-hour marriage and then divorced after the sexual hunger is satiated? The VP further said that this kind of marriages would help in flourishing the trade of the tourism department. However, critics have labeled this practice as a form of legal prostitution, which is common in the Puncak neighborhood, a place famous for this kind of short-lived marriages. [link to www.instablogs.com] Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/26/2009 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you imagine anyone being paid for one-hour marriage and then divorced after the sexual hunger is satiated? ![]() Gee I guess their Muslim clerics must be involve in this scam... Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
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a User ID: 598727 ![]() 01/26/2009 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you imagine anyone being paid for one-hour marriage and then divorced after the sexual hunger is satiated? ![]() Gee I guess their Muslim clerics must be involve in this scam... sure, "modern" people do it without any paperwork Prostitution in Israel Today A June 15, 2000 review sent to me: The best action in Israel is in Tel Aviv. There are tons of "health clubs" which provide full sex for a price going from 120 to 250 shekels for half an hour (full service) (4.2 Shekels= 1 USD). The best two I have been to are located close to each other, and are in the area of Hamasger street. These are a little more expensive, but the quality is amazing. The first one is called Promise bar (on Hamasger street) and the other one is in Shozino street (3 minutes walking from the first one) and is called Shozino bar. In these places, there is an entry fee of 50 shekels, including a drink. Then you can sit at the bar, and choose the girl you want. The price is 200 shekels for half an hour, and it includes full service, bbbj without and sometime even more. The girls are all russian or from ukraine. ALL of them I found friendly, and most of them like what they are doing. You can also stay for a longer time, the price increases and is 400 shekels for one full hour (this would include more than 1 act, of course) As I said, there are plenty of "health clubs" but these two are the best I found (after a lot of research!!!). Enjoy it. [link to www.sexwork.com] |
JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/26/2009 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sure, "modern" people do it without any paperwork Quoting: a 598727Without paper work, but mainly without involving the local priest.... Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
a User ID: 598727 ![]() 01/26/2009 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISRAEL FACTS ON PROSTITUTION Women trafficked from Eastern Europe, were stripped and sold naked as slaves to Tel Aviv traders for US$500-1,000. Smuggling, fraudulent documents, collaboration between police and brothel owners are involved. There are routine brutal beatings and sexual abuse. (New York Times 11 January 1998) While trafficked women are frequently arrested as illegal workers, the men who brought them to Israel -- many of whom are Israeli citizens -- are not. Justice Ministry spokeswoman Etty Eshed said the government would think about making legal changes to address trafficking in the "near future" but had no date or plan for doing so. (Elisabeth Eaves, "Israel not the promised land for Russian sex slaves," Reuters, 23 August 1998)........ Lyubov, 17, arrived in Israel from a Russian coal mining city only to be sold into prostitution. Now she sits in a prison cell awaiting expulsion as an illegal worker. Six months ago, a man in Lyubov's hometown told the young woman he could get her a plane ticket, a visa and a job abroad. She entered Israel with a tour group and was met by a hotel owner who befriended her and gave her a job as a cleaner in exchange for a room. The hotel owner introduced her to friends, showed her around and taught her some Hebrew until one day he told her to get out of his car and into another. Then he drove away. "At first I didn't know I had been sold. Then my owner told me he had bought me for $9,000," Lyubov said in an interview in a prison office. Her new "owner," as she calls him, told her she would work as a call girl. It was the beginning of a stint as an unpaid prostitute -- part of an international crime phenomenon which women's groups see as a modern slave trade. Lyubov's "owner" kept her and eight other women in two apartments. He never paid any of them but instead said they were indebted to him for their plane tickets and every expense incurred, from doctors' visits to haircuts. Transported to clients by drivers and often under guard, Lyubov had sex with an average of six men a day for about $75 an hour. All she could keep were tips. She worked round the clock, seven days a week, with no holidays except for Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the Jewish calendar. (Elisabeth Eaves, "Israel not the promised land for Russian sex slaves," Reuters, 23 August 1998) [link to www.paralumun.com] |
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JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/26/2009 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISRAEL FACTS ON PROSTITUTION Quoting: a 598727Women trafficked from Eastern Europe, were stripped and sold naked as slaves to Tel Aviv traders for US$500-1,000. Smuggling, fraudulent documents, collaboration between police and brothel owners are involved. There are routine brutal beatings and sexual abuse. (New York Times 11 January 1998) While trafficked women are frequently arrested as illegal workers, the men who brought them to Israel -- many of whom are Israeli citizens -- are not. Justice Ministry spokeswoman Etty Eshed said the government would think about making legal changes to address trafficking in the "near future" but had no date or plan for doing so. (Elisabeth Eaves, "Israel not the promised land for Russian sex slaves," Reuters, 23 August 1998)........ Lyubov, 17, arrived in Israel from a Russian coal mining city only to be sold into prostitution. Now she sits in a prison cell awaiting expulsion as an illegal worker. Six months ago, a man in Lyubov's hometown told the young woman he could get her a plane ticket, a visa and a job abroad. She entered Israel with a tour group and was met by a hotel owner who befriended her and gave her a job as a cleaner in exchange for a room. The hotel owner introduced her to friends, showed her around and taught her some Hebrew until one day he told her to get out of his car and into another. Then he drove away. "At first I didn't know I had been sold. Then my owner told me he had bought me for $9,000," Lyubov said in an interview in a prison office. Her new "owner," as she calls him, told her she would work as a call girl. It was the beginning of a stint as an unpaid prostitute -- part of an international crime phenomenon which women's groups see as a modern slave trade. Lyubov's "owner" kept her and eight other women in two apartments. He never paid any of them but instead said they were indebted to him for their plane tickets and every expense incurred, from doctors' visits to haircuts. Transported to clients by drivers and often under guard, Lyubov had sex with an average of six men a day for about $75 an hour. All she could keep were tips. She worked round the clock, seven days a week, with no holidays except for Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the Jewish calendar. (Elisabeth Eaves, "Israel not the promised land for Russian sex slaves," Reuters, 23 August 1998) [link to www.paralumun.com] I am not saying Israel has no prostitution. Hell even in Saoudi Arabia there is prostitution!!! I'm saying Israelis don't marry their 10 year old daughters to old men. Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/26/2009 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jadr, u r a total idiot Quoting: a 598727u fail to see your hypocrisy pittiful What that Muslim countries have religious sanctioned prostitution and marry their young girl aged 10???? VS Illegal prostitution in Israel? So making it legal and religiously sanctioned makes it OK? Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 601320 ![]() 01/26/2009 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Quoting: JADRTen-year-old girls are ready for marriage, according to Saudi Arabia's most senior cleric. Sheikh Abdul-Aziz Al Sheikh, the country's grand mufti, told Al Hayat newspaper that those saying ten or 12-year-old girls are too young to marry are being 'unfair' to them. <snip> There is no recent history of animosity with Muslims in Portugal, where 85 percent of people say they are Catholic. I know! Catholics and Muslims get along just fine, most always, because their religions are so similar. Whatever they do in their own country is their problem. Just keep them over there. |
Bob Saget User ID: 578679 ![]() 01/26/2009 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know! Catholics and Muslims get along just fine, most always, because their religions are so similar. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 601320You're not far wrong, there [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 601157 ![]() 01/26/2009 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Customers would beat us. They had special instruments. They would drip hot wax all over my body and force me to do painful, degrading things. Of course they enjoyed it—they paid extra for it.” Quoting: a 598727[link to www.ynetnews.com] should israelis preach about morality? You come here and find out the truth before you make such a statement. The sex-trade here is ALL, I repeat ALL from the former Soviet Union. The girls are tricked into working in Israel from Russia, and enslaved. The pimps are ALL Russian Mafia. MOST I repeat, MOST of the "johns" are Arab Muslims. How do I know? I have a cop for a friend who told me. Israeli's DO NOT PREACH ABOUT MORALITY. AMERICANS AND BRITS DO. |
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a User ID: 598727 ![]() 01/26/2009 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jadr, u r a total idiot Quoting: JADRu fail to see your hypocrisy pittiful What that Muslim countries have religious sanctioned prostitution and marry their young girl aged 10???? VS Illegal prostitution in Israel? So making it legal and religiously sanctioned makes it OK? In Israel, thousands of young people are working as prostitutes, but only one center exists to help them turn their lives around. The center hopes to expand from Tel Aviv to other cities and reach out to more pre-teens and teens in "the life." [link to www.womensenews.org] u r an idiot i told u |
JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/26/2009 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jadr, u r a total idiot Quoting: a 598727u fail to see your hypocrisy pittiful What that Muslim countries have religious sanctioned prostitution and marry their young girl aged 10???? VS Illegal prostitution in Israel? So making it legal and religiously sanctioned makes it OK? In Israel, thousands of young people are working as prostitutes, but only one center exists to help them turn their lives around. The center hopes to expand from Tel Aviv to other cities and reach out to more pre-teens and teens in "the life." [link to www.womensenews.org] u r an idiot i told u Yes- but it's illegal - not religiously promoted... Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
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JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/31/2009 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jadr, u r a total idiot Quoting: a 598727Yes- but it's illegal - not religiously promoted... ![]() Check out the thread about Mohamed being a pedophile.. Thread: Mohammed the Pedophile??? Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |
anonanon User ID: 269684 ![]() 01/31/2009 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back to the original topic of 10 year old girls being married off..... A girl's parents can teach her the household skills she may need as a married woman. 10 is far too young. This cleric obviously wants to make certain that future Saudi women are like trained dogs and will accept being treated as such. I am not saying wait til they are 25, but 18 is soon enough and too soon for most. Let the girls go to school and get an education first. 10 and 12 year old girls are not in any way ready to be separated from their mothers and fathers. The whole thing is a warped view of women which, of course, is nothing new in the eyes of Islamic clerics. Nor does Israel having prostitution have anything to do with this. So what if they have it? What country doesn't? |
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JADR (OP) User ID: 389916 ![]() 01/31/2009 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JADR = evil piece of shit !!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 582190blablabla Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine. "MANE – THECEL – PHARES." |