Missourians to claim Sovereignty??? | |
Lawman User ID: 606228 United States 02/04/2009 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding... The New World Order will have all other countries with their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them. All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back. ` ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
ShowMe State of Mind (OP) User ID: 553115 United States 02/04/2009 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding... The New World Order will have all other countries with their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them. All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back. ` Now is the time!!! Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt ~V~ |
Who Am I? User ID: 598218 United States 02/04/2009 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding... The New World Order will have all other countries with their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them. All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back. ` This guy is saying the same thing in every secession thread. |
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ShowMe State of Mind (OP) User ID: 553115 United States 02/04/2009 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP. Quoting: ANONYMOUS 607491I am not the state Rep. that is presenting this bill today. You should read the post before you show your ignorance. Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt ~V~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 594730 United States 02/04/2009 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP. Quoting: ShowMe State of MindI am not the state Rep. that is presenting this bill today. You should read the post before you show your ignorance. Agreed. But also, you should do a search before posting a new thread. Thread: WA, AZ, MO, & NH Claims Sovereignty from the Federal Government Not only Missouri, but also Oklahoma, Washington, New Hampshire and Arizona have introduced the same bill. Definitely a coordinated effort, on multiple fronts, by a small group of patriots. |
ShowMe State of Mind (OP) User ID: 553115 United States 02/04/2009 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 594730I am not the state Rep. that is presenting this bill today. You should read the post before you show your ignorance. Agreed. But also, you should do a search before posting a new thread. Thread: WA, AZ, MO, & NH Claims Sovereignty from the Federal Government Not only Missouri, but also Oklahoma, Washington, New Hampshire and Arizona have introduced the same bill. Definitely a coordinated effort, on multiple fronts, by a small group of patriots. Like wise agreed. However each state has their own reason for declaring sovereignty, i.e., Missouri is using the right to life declaration. I am from Missouri and have not read the other proposed bills. Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt ~V~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 588041 United States 02/04/2009 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP. Quoting: ANONYMOUS 607491Congress doesn't decide this issue. The states themselves do. DC has nothing to do with it. |
ShowMe State of Mind (OP) User ID: 553115 United States 02/04/2009 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Missouri also has another bill on the burner...HCR 20 to not allow the North American Union. FIRST REGULAR SESSION House Concurrent Resolution No. 20 95TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY 1066L.01I Whereas, President George W. Bush established the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America, with the nations of Mexico and Canada on March 23, 2005; and Whereas, this plan is nothing short of revolutionary. As Lou Dobbs put it on his CNN program, it is "an absolute contravention of our law, of our Constitution, every national value."; and Whereas, this plan sounds like a new innovation, it is not new. It is the next step in a progression of steps that, in a manner very similar to the process used in Europe to supplant individual nations with the European Union, will ultimately lead to the formation of a new government for the United States, the North American Union; and Whereas, the gradual creation of such a North American Union from a merger of the United States, Mexico, and Canada would be a direct threat to the Constitution and national independence of the United States, and imply an eventual end to national borders within North America; and Whereas, a White House news release confirmed the continuing existence of the SPP and its "ongoing process of cooperation" on March 31, 2006; and Whereas, Congressman Ron Paul (who opposed the SPP or any form of North American Union between countries in the Americas) has written that a key to the SPP plan is an extensive new NAFTA superhighway: "nder this new 'partnership', a massive highway is being planned to stretch from Canada to Mexico, through the State of Texas"; and Whereas, this trilateral partnership to develop a North American Union has never been presented to Congress as an agreement or treaty, and has had virtually no congressional oversight; and Whereas, state and local governments throughout the United States would be negatively impacted by the SPP/North American Union process, such as the "open borders" vision of the SPP, eminent domain takings of private property along the planned superhighways, and increased law enforcement problems along those same superhighways: Now, therefore, be it resolved that the members of the House of Representatives of the Ninety-fifth General Assembly, First Regular Session, the Senate concurring therein, hereby urge the Congress of the United States to use all of its efforts, energies, and diligence to withdraw the United States from any further participation in the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America and any other bilateral or trilateral activity, however named, which seeks to advance, authorize, fund, or in any way promote the creation of any structure to accomplish any form of North American Union as herein described; and Be it further resolved that the Chief Clerk of the Missouri House of Representatives be instructed to prepare properly inscribed copies of this resolution for each member of the Missouri Congressional delegation. [link to www.house.mo.gov] Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt ~V~ |
locomotion User ID: 422515 United States 02/04/2009 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the write up of that bill, it seems a young woman of child-bearing age would only be trading a Federal Master for a Missouri State Master in terms of reproductive choice. Maybe that's an improvement, as she would have the option of moving out of such a backward thinking state to another that allows the individual's right to choose about her own reproductive system... ...unless Missouri intends to pass a law prohibiting a pregnant woman from moving over state lines and out of their legal grasp. You never know to what lengths some people will go to control others they look down upon as lesser citizens. If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately. ~Thomas Paine I've been dead before. ~Spock, The Unknown Country (PEACE) |
ShowMe State of Mind (OP) User ID: 553115 United States 02/04/2009 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the write up of that bill, it seems a young woman of child-bearing age would only be trading a Federal Master for a Missouri State Master in terms of reproductive choice. Quoting: locomotionMaybe that's an improvement, as she would have the option of moving out of such a backward thinking state to another that allows the individual's right to choose about her own reproductive system... ...unless Missouri intends to pass a law prohibiting a pregnant woman from moving over state lines and out of their legal grasp. You never know to what lengths some people will go to control others they look down upon as lesser citizens. I have to agree that the issue that Missouri is using to claim sovereignty is one of a hot topic. Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.~Eleanor Roosevelt ~V~ |
Nailer45 User ID: 607097 United States 02/04/2009 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP IS JUST TRYING TO PUT BULL SHIT THREATS ALL OVER GLP ANY AND IDIOT CAN SEE THIS. CONGRESS WOULD NEVER VOTE TO DIVIDE THIS NATION AND DELUTE THE STREGNTH OF THE UNITED STATES..ANOTHER WASTED POST OP. Quoting: ANONYMOUS 607491Congress has no power over it the states actually have power over the FEDS so go do some research. Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
Lawman User ID: 606228 United States 02/04/2009 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | tick tock Quoting: SlartybartfastYou said it! ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
locomotion User ID: 422515 United States 02/04/2009 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to agree that the issue that Missouri is using to claim sovereignty is one of a hot topic. Quoting: ShowMe State of MindHaving had the debate portion of this program settled for me in the sixties, there is no further debate involved. I am FOR choice, not FOR abortion. No intention to redirect this thread to that subject, but it needed to be pointed out that that is the basis for the proposed legislation. I appreciate your forbearance, and thanks for posting this information. If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately. ~Thomas Paine I've been dead before. ~Spock, The Unknown Country (PEACE) |
Lawman User ID: 606228 United States 02/04/2009 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding... The New World Order will have all other countries with their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them. All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back. ` This guy is saying the same thing in every secession thread. Does everyone understand what I am saying though? The Union has to work together on this. A single state (country) would be VERY vulnerable. The people of the states have to fix themselves before the state can do anything. During the whole history of the United States people have been led around like sheep. In example, there are only 2 state constitutions that were not installed by referendum. Please trust me on this... ` ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
Slider.. User ID: 607535 United States 02/04/2009 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm, ya don't suppose the reason "They" have continually compared Obama to Lincoln is because They knew all these States would be opting for Sovereignty ?? Seems to me the same thing happened back in the middle of the 1800's.. If'n i remember right Lincoln had a big part in that one, think they called it a Civil War.. round & round we go.. .. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 475532 United States 02/04/2009 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding... The New World Order will have all other countries with their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them. All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back. ` This guy is saying the same thing in every secession thread. Does everyone understand what I am saying though? The Union has to work together on this. A single state (country) would be VERY vulnerable. The people of the states have to fix themselves before the state can do anything. During the whole history of the United States people have been lead around like sheep. In example, there are only 2 state constitutions that were not installed by referendum. Please trust me on this... ` the time for trust is over Lawman. Our western system is under assault and the federal government is playing right into their hands. |
Lawman User ID: 606228 United States 02/04/2009 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm, ya don't suppose the reason "They" have Quoting: Slider.. 607535continually compared Obama to Lincoln is because They knew all these States would be opting for Sovereignty ?? Seems to me the same thing happened back in the middle of the 1800's.. If'n i remember right Lincoln had a big part in that one, think they called it a Civil War.. round & round we go.. .. THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT!!! They were flaunting that the program of what started at that time is continuing. Of course Obama is just a NWO Butt-Puppet. See this link [link to www.notmygovernment.us] ` ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
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locomotion User ID: 422515 United States 02/04/2009 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605613And might I suggest a civility course for you Coward? Your argument is undermined by your personal attack. If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately. ~Thomas Paine I've been dead before. ~Spock, The Unknown Country (PEACE) |
OneAngryMom User ID: 506709 United States 02/04/2009 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605613*sigh* ya know?.....I just get so tired of AC's bullying and name calling for the sake of their ego. Would it even have crossed your mind to just state an observation or opinion without the name calling? "Show Me" doesn't strike me as a "bitch".......YOU, however..... well do you even LIVE in Missouri? I do and am pretty curious about all of this conversation..... seriously....would you mind just leaving the conversation to those who have something even remotely mature to offer? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 605613 United States 02/04/2009 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch. Quoting: locomotionAnd might I suggest a civility course for you Coward? Your argument is undermined by your personal attack. That's an ad hominem. The validity of the argument does not depend upon the civility of my statement. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 605613 United States 02/04/2009 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch. Quoting: OneAngryMom*sigh* ya know?.....I just get so tired of AC's bullying and name calling for the sake of their ego. Would it even have crossed your mind to just state an observation or opinion without the name calling? "Show Me" doesn't strike me as a "bitch".......YOU, however..... well do you even LIVE in Missouri? I do and am pretty curious about all of this conversation..... seriously....would you mind just leaving the conversation to those who have something even remotely mature to offer? If it were for the sake of ego, one wouldn't be anonymous. |
OneAngryMom User ID: 506709 United States 02/04/2009 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you get the point? Do you understand? Is it some kind of fun game to you to just be rude? If you just want to pick a fight by using intimidation....please quit hijacking this thread and go somewhere else so those of us who would LIKE to have a conversation can do so without your rude insults. Do you even LIVE in Missouri? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 605613 United States 02/04/2009 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you get the point? Quoting: OneAngryMomDo you understand? Is it some kind of fun game to you to just be rude? If you just want to pick a fight by using intimidation....please quit hijacking this thread and go somewhere else so those of us who would LIKE to have a conversation can do so without your rude insults. Do you even LIVE in Missouri? I live in the United States. And this is one of a series of posts, put up by morons, who have no clue to the US or their State. They make claims which were way to exaggerated based upon -- nothing. Seriously. Study history and you will see -- this doesn't count as anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 475532 United States 02/04/2009 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am known on this board too, but I wouldn't refer to a fellow seeker as you did...the fact is, not all have come to the same conclusion you have. Some appear to be vacillating and inconsistent because their search is still ongoing. one can be of two minds about a great many things. the objective of becoming godlike isn't to have all your switches flipped either fully on or fully off, but to allow others to slowly move their own switches to their natural positions and allow them to self tune. just a bit more patience, please...its just a good policy. |
OneAngryMom User ID: 506709 United States 02/04/2009 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you get the point? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605613Do you understand? Is it some kind of fun game to you to just be rude? If you just want to pick a fight by using intimidation....please quit hijacking this thread and go somewhere else so those of us who would LIKE to have a conversation can do so without your rude insults. Do you even LIVE in Missouri? I live in the United States. And this is one of a series of posts, put up by morons, who have no clue to the US or their State. They make claims which were way to exaggerated based upon -- nothing. Seriously. Study history and you will see -- this doesn't count as anything. wow what do you charge per hour? I have several things in my life that you clearly have the wherewithal to understand and solve, sight unseen! You must be amazingly talented to be able to see right through others motives and have enough insight to determine what everyone else in the world needs to know that apparently you alone have the answer to! It's awesome to know that I never have to ask another question again as long as I consult you (and your company?), study a bit of history to collect your point of view, and just get on with my life! Gosh...those other 10 or so posts about the other states taking similar action to Missouri must have entirely escaped my eyesight and/or ability to "click" on those links! I never would have realized that there was ANY exaggeration on this site without your helpful guidance. I'm almost 50 and the family genealogist and it would have never occurred to me that history was something I should study or pay attention to! Thanks for that TIP! ahem |
locomotion User ID: 422515 United States 02/04/2009 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny, Show Me State of Mind -- goes from TOTAL BERG FAIL over Obama, to this; has no clue to US laws or actions, does she? Nope. Get back to high school, bitch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605613And might I suggest a civility course for you Coward? Your argument is undermined by your personal attack. That's an ad hominem. The validity of the argument does not depend upon the civility of my statement. No personal remarks there Coward. Your lack of civility was noted, and there was no personal (to the man) attack. In civil discourse, name calling really doesn't add any weight to the argument, and makes questionable the maturity and intelligence of the name caller, and their ability to fully understand their own stance, which then calls into question the point of proceeding with the discourse. If you desire debate or discourse, leave off with name calling. If you desire a free for all, just to see who can be ruder, by all means call names. If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately. ~Thomas Paine I've been dead before. ~Spock, The Unknown Country (PEACE) |