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ZetaTalk LIVE Chat February 7

 
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Nancy simply parrots things she hears and learns from political pundits and you guys fawn over that.
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You make it sound so "easy". Every chat every weekend she comments liberally in political issues. You guys NEVER let a failed prediction of any kind float buy unnoticed, yet none of you can even produce a mere dozen examples where her political, economic and military analysis was off target, much less WRONG.

exitfail

You are so far off the fence you are in the middle of the pasture, lost in your hero worship of the woman.
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Only when contrasted with the extremism of the debunkers.

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ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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if Sitchin and Velikovsky and Hapgood all came to conclusion that Pole Shifts happened in the Earth's past, it doesnt mean they all were wrong, but that they all came to obvious and RIGHT conclusion, independetly


But for all the thousands of researchers who independently came to the conclusion that Pole Shifts as described by Sitchn et al DIDN'T happen, it DOES mean they were all wrong because...Well, because you can just go with whatever conclusion you want if you don't have to bother with the scientific method (other than to glom onto the authority of "science" to support your arguments whenever possible.)


>> But for all the thousands of researchers who independently came to the conclusion that Pole Shifts as described by Sitchn et al DIDN'T happen.

idyut

My 2 year old daughter has also come to the same conclusion - or NOT. Willful ignorance of the true facts on the part of the bulk of modern "scientists" does not constitute a "credible" consensus.

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if Sitchin and Velikovsky and Hapgood all came to conclusion that Pole Shifts happened in the Earth's past, it doesnt mean they all were wrong, but that they all came to obvious and RIGHT conclusion, independetly


But for all the thousands of researchers who independently came to the conclusion that Pole Shifts as described by Sitchn et al DIDN'T happen, it DOES mean they were all wrong because...Well, because you can just go with whatever conclusion you want if you don't have to bother with the scientific method (other than to glom onto the authority of "science" to support your arguments whenever possible.)


>> But for all the thousands of researchers who independently came to the conclusion that Pole Shifts as described by Sitchn et al DIDN'T happen.

idyut

My 2 year old daughter has also come to the same conclusion - or NOT. Willful ignorance of the true facts on the part of the bulk of modern "scientists" does not constitute a "credible" consensus.

point2fhea

p_oop

kissy
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:My 2 year old daughter has also come to the same conclusion - or NOT. Willful ignorance of the true facts on the part of the bulk of modern "scientists" does not constitute a "credible" consensus.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Exactly the fucking point. The consensus of Hapgood, Velikovsky and Sitchin in and of itself doesn't prove anything more than the consensus of you, your two year old kid and your Vietnamese potbellied pig.
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if Sitchin and Velikovsky and Hapgood all came to conclusion that Pole Shifts happened in the Earth's past, it doesnt mean they all were wrong, but that they all came to obvious and RIGHT conclusion, independetly


But for all the thousands of researchers who independently came to the conclusion that Pole Shifts as described by Sitchn et al DIDN'T happen, it DOES mean they were all wrong because...Well, because you can just go with whatever conclusion you want if you don't have to bother with the scientific method (other than to glom onto the authority of "science" to support your arguments whenever possible.)


>> But for all the thousands of researchers who independently came to the conclusion that Pole Shifts as described by Sitchn et al DIDN'T happen.

idyut

My 2 year old daughter has also come to the same conclusion - or NOT. Willful ignorance of the true facts on the part of the bulk of modern "scientists" does not constitute a "credible" consensus.

point2fhea

p_oop

kissy

headsand
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:My 2 year old daughter has also come to the same conclusion - or NOT. Willful ignorance of the true facts on the part of the bulk of modern "scientists" does not constitute a "credible" consensus.


Exactly the fucking point. The consensus of Hapgood, Velikovsky and Sitchin in and of itself doesn't prove anything more than the consensus of you, your two year old kid and your Vietnamese potbellied pig.
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Please explain the frozen tropical forest buried at Prudoe Bay.

Yea - didn't think you could ...

ZetaMax - BOOK REPORT: Lindsay William's "The Energy Non-Crisis" & PLANET X

Many GLPer's are familiar with Lindsay Williams, and his book:

energy_non

For those still unfamiliar, I invite you to check out his YouTube presentation on the topic:



What you are *NOT* familiar with, unless you have read his book in its entirety (and I'm sure that's very few if any here at GLP), is that something *ELSE* of MONUMENTAL IMPORTANCE is also chronicled in his book. It is a subject that he admits is "off topic", but included it in his book because of it's vast human interest. Here it is:


There is an interesting point to mention in passing. Though the ground is frozen for 1,900 feet down from the surface at Prudoe Bay,

prudoe_bay

everywhere the oil companies drilled around the area they discovered an ancient tropical forest. It was in a frozen state, not in petrified state. It is between 1,100 and 1,700 feet down. There are palm trees, pine trees, and tropical foliage in great profusion. In fact, they found them lapped all over each other, just as though they had fallen in that position.

What great catastrophe caused this massive upheaval, and then led to such dramatic changes in climate?
(*WHAT??* Indeed!! - ZetaMax) We stress again that everything is frozen - not petrified - and that the whole area has never once thawed since that great catastrophe took place. So what could possibly cause these dramatic happenings? ...

It is interesting to notice that tropical ferns have also been found at the Antarctic, and the evidence from these two areas, considered together, certainly suggests that there has been a dramatic change from a worldwide tropical climate to an Arctic climate within datable times. ...

The finding of underground tropical growth is not hearsay, for I have personally watched these palm trees and other types of tropical plants being brought to the surface. Let me give you two examples. One day I watched as a pine cone was brought up from a well ... and when we first saw it, it looked just exactly as it would look on a young pine tree today. It was closed and we put it in an office on the premises of Atlantic Richfield. We simply put it on the desk and left it. The next day we came back and the pine cone had opened up. You could quite clearly see the seeds on the inside of the cone. This was obviously after thousands of years of being in a frozen state, hundreds of feet beneath the surface.

I personally have palm fronds in my home which were brought up from some 1,700 feet below the surface. Again I would like to make an observation, without necessarily giving an opinion, because I do not regard myself as an expert in this area. I simply want to state that consistently this tropical forest was found between 1,100 and 1,700 feet beneath the surface. The actual base of the perpetually frozen ground is approximately 200 feet below the depth of the frozen tropical forest. The oil is found at a depth of 8,700 feet, average, and it is amazing to realize that it comes from that depth without artificial pumping.


Lindsay Williams, "The Energy Non-Crisis": Worth Publishing Company, 1980, pgs 54-57.

It is clear that Pastor Williams was not familiar with the "Pole Shift" concept when he wrote this book in 1979 (first Published in 1980) - for his admittedly "non-expert" opinion is that the entire globe was "a worldwide tropical climate" that went "to an Arctic climate within datable times." Even though he offers no scientific data here, other sources date these finds to the Pleistecene Era - known commonly as the last ICE AGE. But how could that be?? How could palm trees grow in area that was supposed to be covered with an ice sheet thousands of feet thick??? Prudoe Bay is *above* the Arctic Circle. The only explanation that accounts for this evidence is not Ice Ages, and not worldwide tropics, but POLE SHIFTS.

And what would cause such a catastrophic, rapid shift of the Earth's crust?

PLANET X.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Nancy simply parrots things she hears and learns from political pundits and you guys fawn over that.


You make it sound so "easy". Every chat every weekend she comments liberally in political issues. You guys NEVER let a failed prediction of any kind float buy unnoticed, yet none of you can even produce a mere dozen examples where her political, economic and military analysis was off target, much less WRONG.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


It IS easy. All her short term political analysis is straight off CNN and the rest of the MSM. She NEVER comes up with any bold prediction, ALWAYS the easy, predictable, safe answer.

As for her economic and military "analysis" are you F'n serious about just a dozen examples of her being wrong? I mean, just take all her economic predictions about what was going to happen in 2003. How many hundreds and hundreds of boners is that right there? Oh, of course, I'm sure you just shovel that into the "White Lie" bag and it only counts as one, right?
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ZetaMax - BOOK REPORT: Lindsay William's "The Energy Non-Crisis" & PLANET X
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That guy might as well have "SPOOK" tattooed on his forehead. Once again, who won't you hitch your wagon, too?
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Nancy simply parrots things she hears and learns from political pundits and you guys fawn over that.


You make it sound so "easy". Every chat every weekend she comments liberally in political issues. You guys NEVER let a failed prediction of any kind float buy unnoticed, yet none of you can even produce a mere dozen examples where her political, economic and military analysis was off target, much less WRONG.


It IS easy. All her short term political analysis is straight off CNN and the rest of the MSM. She NEVER comes up with any bold prediction, ALWAYS the easy, predictable, safe answer.

As for her economic and military "analysis" are you F'n serious about just a dozen examples of her being wrong? I mean, just take all her economic predictions about what was going to happen in 2003. How many hundreds and hundreds of boners is that right there? Oh, of course, I'm sure you just shovel that into the "White Lie" bag and it only counts as one, right?
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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As for her economic and military "analysis" are you F'n serious about just a dozen examples of her being wrong? I mean, just take all her economic predictions about what was going to happen in 2003. How many hundreds and hundreds of boners is that right there? Oh, of course, I'm sure you just shovel that into the "White Lie" bag and it only counts as one, right?


I've often quoted her claims that inflation was "running
rampant" in 2004, but MaxiPad always ignores it. I quoted
right off of her web site too!
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Of course it was! Housing prices were skyrocketing, and the stock market was ratcheting ever higher. These two sectors alone can soak up the increasing money supply. Money chasing itself in the stock market, changing hands constantly but never for true capital investment (companies only get capital with the initial IPO) can explain why commodity prices did not rise in lockstep.

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Nancy's weather predictions are spot on

you notice during the chat the Zetas say answering a question that the wobble will worsen more, within three weeks the weather becomes more severe

Will it be cold in the NH another chat question. The Zetas said expect it colder, the weather this winter set records everywhere

to me...that is more proof the signs are everso more apparent

Tell me Nancy is wrong..Lol i won't listen
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ZetaMax - BOOK REPORT: Lindsay William's "The Energy Non-Crisis" & PLANET X


That guy might as well have "SPOOK" tattooed on his forehead. Once again, who won't you hitch your wagon, too?
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Complete EVASION noted!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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if Sitchin and Velikovsky and Hapgood all came to conclusion that Pole Shifts happened in the Earth's past, it doesnt mean they all were wrong, but that they all came to obvious and RIGHT conclusion, independetly


But for all the thousands of researchers who independently came to the conclusion that Pole Shifts as described by Sitchn et al DIDN'T happen, it DOES mean they were all wrong because...Well, because you can just go with whatever conclusion you want if you don't have to bother with the scientific method (other than to glom onto the authority of "science" to support your arguments whenever possible.)
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Sitchen and Velikovsky have been proven wrong many times over and Hapgood was talking about the precursers of the plate tectonics theory. Not a pole shift.

Wrong again.
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I've maintained all along that her track record on political, economic and military topics is impressive enough ALONE to warrant RESPECT.

For instance, she(they) predicted that the Obama administration would NOT prosecute ANY Bush administration officials and would simply distance itself from the previous administration as much as possible.

THAT HAS HAPPENED.

Just another checkmark on the bulletin board.


 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Bullshit. Only the internet kooks predicted otherwise. Virtually every other serious news person predicted that Obama would not go down that path. Nancy just hopped on the train.

And please tell us what on earth this has to do with px?
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2 minds versus 2 billion (the number of folks in the world who care about the American Presidential election - yourself included) is not persuasive to even a race of beings millions of years ahead of us in evolution.

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I thought you claimed that you were "on the fence"? Bullshit.
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And what would cause such a catastrophic, rapid shift of the Earth's crust?

PLANET X.
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You're quoting a preacher. When did you become a born again Christian?
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wrong

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ZetaMax - BOOK REPORT: Lindsay William's "The Energy Non-Crisis" & PLANET X

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What, got the book at a garage sale? plagiarized anything yet?
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My 2 year old daughter has also come to the same conclusion - or NOT. Willful ignorance of the true facts on the part of the bulk of modern "scientists" does not constitute a "credible" consensus.
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LOL!! The irony. The only one ignoring facts is you.

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For instance, she(they) predicted that the Obama administration would NOT prosecute ANY Bush administration officials and would simply distance itself from the previous administration as much as possible.

THAT HAS HAPPENED.

Just another checkmark on the bulletin board.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


She (they) also said Obama would NOT win. And they said Clinton would NOT be nominated for a position in his administration. Nancy claiming Bush would not prosecute any Bush official was pretty much a given. He would have to prove there was criminal intent. That would take time and MONEY...something this country doesn't have a lot of right now and there are more pressing matters that need attending to so any moron could have predicted this.

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I was responding to Professor Flunk Bunny. He's *NOT* a mod now is he? (Though he is an AGENT!)

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As are you:

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Guys, stop feeding those bunkers and trolls with your answer.
Stop any diskussion, and Nancy will start debunking her own shit, as she has done and is contionuously doing (sockpuppeting) to get her "diskussion" alive.
btw - it is 2009 now. Didnt she say the signs will be undeniable end of 2008 ?
Nancy, on a scale of 1 to 10, how is it today ? and what was your last years prediction for today?
Proof for the nonsense of the wooble claim
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Continuos/daily reminder for Nancy to think about a valid answer for her 2012 non-show since Nov 11, 2008.


93 days gone, 1419 days to go until Nancys final failure.
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Zetas are slaves talking in false name because they are dying and they will tell anything because they believe it's their right.

MAybe they know some truth, but it's only to save their asses


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you notice during the chat the Zetas say answering a question that the wobble will worsen more, within three weeks the weather becomes more severe
 Quoting: Free Store.

Except that there is no wobble. This has been demonstrated time and time again. You just continue to be ignorant.
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you notice during the chat the Zetas say answering a question that the wobble will worsen more, within three weeks the weather becomes more severe

CB
Except that there is no wobble. This has been demonstrated time and time again. You just continue to be ignorant.
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Can we hold Freestore to that? wait, nope his "Canadian word" is as useful as a three dollar note.
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you notice during the chat the Zetas say ... the weather becomes more severe ... This has been demonstrated time and time again.
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Have to agree!

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Can we hold Freestore to that? wait, nope his "Canadian word" is as useful as a three dollar note.
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Living in the past?
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Have to agree...there is no wobble. Nancy was definitely wrong on that. Just like she was about Earth being halted in orbit.

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At least you finally admit it. That's a start.
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Can we hold Freestore to that? wait, nope his "Canadian word" is as useful as a three dollar note.


Living in the past?
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At least I'm not trying to quote a fruitcake geologist from a book written in the 1970's!

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Living in the past?
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So are you with that "umbrella of the white lie" bullshit.
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