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POLL: What is your opinion of our government?
 Great! Couldn't be happier!
 Yeah, s'pretty good.
 ...Meh.. *shrugs*
 They're starting to annoy me a lil..
 Fed up of those fucking WANKERS!!!
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Just curious to see other Brits opinions on the state of our governing body. The laws they're passing, their priorities, both as far as the recession is concerned, and.. well, everything else! How they're spending our money *cough* ID cards *cough* .. etc. Take it all into account. Be honest now.

Thanks :)


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I don't think there can be many people who actually think Gordon Brown has any idea how to sort out this mess.

Mind you, regardless who was running the country i don't think they'd do much better.
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I don't think there can be many people who actually think Gordon Brown has any idea how to sort out this mess.

Mind you, regardless who was running the country i don't think they'd do much better.
 Quoting: just me 777


Yeah lol. Not too keen on Cameron either.. Or any of our parties tbh. They just don't listen to the people anymore..

..Not that they ever really did I guess.
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I don't think there can be many people who actually think Gordon Brown has any idea how to sort out this mess.

Mind you, regardless who was running the country i don't think they'd do much better.


Yeah lol. Not too keen on Cameron either.. Or any of our parties tbh. They just don't listen to the people anymore..

..Not that they ever really did I guess.
 Quoting: HippyChild


If I had to rank the main party leaders, it would go Clegg > Brown > Cameron. I disagree with some of the Lib Dems policies though, and will probably vote Green at the next election.
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were doomed,but hey the bankers will still get their bonuses.
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If I had to rank the main party leaders, it would go Clegg > Brown > Cameron. I disagree with some of the Lib Dems policies though, and will probably vote Green at the next election.
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Same as, to all of which you say..

Revolutionists at the ready :P
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Lmao... someone said great. That's gotta be a joke.. rich in anti-satire !

Or someone was serious. Which is cause for concern lol
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There was only one truthful answer in the list.. The W word lol

So what we gonna do?
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Lmao... someone said great. That's gotta be a joke.. rich in anti-satire !

Or someone was serious. Which is cause for concern lol
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Probably a banker who answered that, or a wanker, ohh hang on i think they're the same thing
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There was only one truthful answer in the list.. The W word lol

So what we gonna do?
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Write your MP? lol..

We could probably organise something in protest..
It just depends what you dislike about the government. It's hard to protest something when you're not sure what you're protestng about.

We definitely need a government! Anarchy would be fun for a day or two, but I'm pretty sure it'd get prety old pretty fast.. Though a fair dictatorship might work :P .

Nah.. don't think we can get rid of the Gov..
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Lmao... someone said great. That's gotta be a joke.. rich in anti-satire !

Or someone was serious. Which is cause for concern lol


Probably a banker who answered that, or a wanker, ohh hang on i think they're the same thing
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chuckle You got stung hard, eh?
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There was only one truthful answer in the list.. The W word lol

So what we gonna do?


Write your MP? lol..

We could probably organise something in protest..
It just depends what you dislike about the government. It's hard to protest something when you're not sure what you're protestng about.

We definitely need a government! Anarchy would be fun for a day or two, but I'm pretty sure it'd get prety old pretty fast.. Though a fair dictatorship might work :P .

Nah.. don't think we can get rid of the Gov..
 Quoting: HippyChild


I remember reading something awhile back which talked about the Queen signing away the last veto? hope I hope I got that right which would totally strip the UK of everything and hand it over to the E.U.. West Minster would close and the Uk gets divided up in to blocks.. new Laws, new Regs

Think all this was meant to go down at the End of May this year
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There was only one truthful answer in the list.. The W word lol

So what we gonna do?


Write your MP? lol..

We could probably organise something in protest..
It just depends what you dislike about the government. It's hard to protest something when you're not sure what you're protestng about.

We definitely need a government! Anarchy would be fun for a day or two, but I'm pretty sure it'd get prety old pretty fast.. Though a fair dictatorship might work :P .

Nah.. don't think we can get rid of the Gov..


I remember reading something awhile back which talked about the Queen signing away the last veto? hope I hope I got that right which would totally strip the UK of everything and hand it over to the E.U.. West Minster would close and the Uk gets divided up in to blocks.. new Laws, new Regs

Think all this was meant to go down at the End of May this year
 Quoting: Kyuubi


Might be a good thing? Trying to find it, but google's being no help.

Did find this however.. which is quite interesting reading, definitely has its moments. I think that the Queen may have been neglecting her post to some degree anyway!

[link to charter.blogspot.com]
It's all about perspective..
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Human rights
Every person has the right to freedom in his own country, the right to free speech, and the right to be innocent until proven guilty. British subjects also have the right to privacy, the right to be free from government interference, computers and large corporations, the right to trial by jury, the right to be in any public space, the right to natural resources, which the government may not charge subjects for, and the right to do precisely as they like providing they they don't hurt or annoy other subjects.

No subject can be sued for damage done to any other subject if that other subject was responsible for it, or could easily have avoided it, or if a reasonable person would have avoided it, unless the damage was done maliciously, or negligently in a professional pursuit.

Any government official who oppresses or denies a subjects their rights shall be removed from government office for a period of at least one year.

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Might be a good thing? Trying to find it, but google's being no help.

Did find this however.. which is quite interesting reading, definitely has its moments. I think that the Queen may have been neglecting her post to some degree anyway!

[link to charter.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: HippyChild


This is one of the sites which talked of it I think

[link to drjn.co.uk]

1. The Queen has signed 6 of the 7 EU Treaties.
2. The 6 treaties define and build the EU as an unelected dictatorship.
3. The EU's laws give it the powers of a police state.
4. The 7th EU treaty will complete the abolition of Britain as a nation
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HippyChild.... off topic but could you do me a favour please?

There was a post by a young Portugese girl, seems to me a call for reassurance or help, very few have responded.... could you .... please... I'd be ever so greatful!!!

Thread: My mom telled me today: "If we die because of economy I hope we don't suffer in death"

Hope that link works, (not really computer literate) anyway her post name is southgaia.

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This is one of the sites which talked of it I think

[link to drjn.co.uk]

1. The Queen has signed 6 of the 7 EU Treaties.
2. The 6 treaties define and build the EU as an unelected dictatorship.
3. The EU's laws give it the powers of a police state.
4. The 7th EU treaty will complete the abolition of Britain as a nation
 Quoting: Kyuubi


It says on this site below that the 6th and FINAL treaty was already signed by the Queen. Doesn't look anymore reliable than your link so here goes...

[link to eutruth.org.uk]
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This is one of the sites which talked of it I think

[link to drjn.co.uk]

1. The Queen has signed 6 of the 7 EU Treaties.
2. The 6 treaties define and build the EU as an unelected dictatorship.
3. The EU's laws give it the powers of a police state.
4. The 7th EU treaty will complete the abolition of Britain as a nation


It says on this site below that the 6th and FINAL treaty was already signed by the Queen. Doesn't look anymore reliable than your link so here goes...

[link to eutruth.org.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596860



It all might be BS or there might be some truth in it I dont know but just seems that no matter what the people want they are taking us down their own direction and something like this well I would not be shocked.

"Government should be the servant of the people; instead it has become the major threat to our freedom and economic well being. "

One Nation under CCTV lol
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Might be a good thing? Trying to find it, but google's being no help.

Did find this however.. which is quite interesting reading, definitely has its moments. I think that the Queen may have been neglecting her post to some degree anyway!

[link to charter.blogspot.com]


This is one of the sites which talked of it I think

[link to drjn.co.uk]

1. The Queen has signed 6 of the 7 EU Treaties.
2. The 6 treaties define and build the EU as an unelected dictatorship.
3. The EU's laws give it the powers of a police state.
4. The 7th EU treaty will complete the abolition of Britain as a nation
 Quoting: Kyuubi


Oh shit! That's definitely worth opposing! :O

Owned by the EU?! Powers of police state?!

Abolition of the £ for sure!


Emails to everyone! . I need to do some reading.
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The EU arrest warrant (signed by the Queen on 18th November 2003) allows us to be arrested without charge and held indefinitely with no right to see a solicitor, make a phone call, or even a right to a trial. You can simply disappear.

Under the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act (SOCPA) 2005, we can now be arrested and held in the cells by any police officer for any petty offence, like dropping litter. Before it had to be an offense that carried a 5 year jail term. This also applies to all of the EU's 107,000 regulations. Do you know them all?

From drjn.co.uk

It's gotta be bullshit lol.. unless i was painfully unaware of this country's legislature..
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[link to eutruth.org.uk]

Is all sounding rather paranoid.. but it wouldn't suprise me tbh *raises eyebrow* . I need to track down a solid source of information.. luckily my missus has an uncle with his foot in the door :P

I can see what I can dig up on all of this in the next few days..
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Thank you!!!!


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CARL JUNG IN 1919

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw

Cree proverb:
Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten.

"Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals."
-Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984)
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Thank you!!!!


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lol, No problem Canuck.

You remain a kinder soul than I, and for that, you have my eternal respect and gratitude :)

hf

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The EU arrest warrant (signed by the Queen on 18th November 2003) allows us to be arrested without charge and held indefinitely with no right to see a solicitor, make a phone call, or even a right to a trial. You can simply disappear.

Under the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act (SOCPA) 2005, we can now be arrested and held in the cells by any police officer for any petty offence, like dropping litter. Before it had to be an offense that carried a 5 year jail term. This also applies to all of the EU's 107,000 regulations. Do you know them all?

From drjn.co.uk

It's gotta be bullshit lol.. unless i was painfully unaware of this country's legislature..
 Quoting: HippyChild


I am trying to find a few sites myself but I dont know the more I read the worse I start to feel.

Found this in regard to what you posted and I dont know about BS anymore...

Charged for quoting George Orwell in public

In another example of the Government's draconian stance on political protest, Steven Jago, 36, a management accountant, yesterday became the latest person to be charged under the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act.

On 18 June, Mr Jago carried a placard in Whitehall bearing the George Orwell quote: In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. In his possession, he had several copies of an article in the American magazine Vanity Fair headlined "Blair's Big Brother Legacy", which were confiscated by the police. The implication that I read from this statement at the time was that I was being accused of handing out subversive material, said Mr Jago. Yesterday, the author, Henry Porter, the magazine's London editor, wrote to Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, expressing concern that the freedom of the press would be severely curtailed if such articles were used in evidence under the Act.

Mr Porter said: The police told Mr Jago this was 'politically motivated' material, and suggested it was evidence of his desire to break the law. I therefore seek your assurance that possession of Vanity Fair within a designated area is not regarded as 'politically motivated' and evidence of conscious law-breaking.

Scotland Yard has declined to comment.

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Got rope?
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I don't think there can be many people who actually think Gordon Brown has any idea how to sort out this mess.

Mind you, regardless who was running the country i don't think they'd do much better.


Yeah lol. Not too keen on Cameron either.. Or any of our parties tbh. They just don't listen to the people anymore..

..Not that they ever really did I guess.


If I had to rank the main party leaders, it would go Clegg > Brown > Cameron. I disagree with some of the Lib Dems policies though, and will probably vote Green at the next election.
 Quoting: Lemoning


You left out Vince Cable; not a party leader, as such, but an important politician to be encouraged in my opinion, despite being a Liberal. Also, Ashley Mote - UKIP MEP - is a good man to keep an eye on.

But our most dangerous "fifth-column" organisation calls itself "Common Purpose" and they are everywhere, steadily and secretly undermining our country's social infrastructure and preparing us for full EU integration. What they do is nothing short of treasonous, in my opinion.

As for the "banksters", their orchestrated and insincere apology was totally inadequate and patronising. They should be stripped of their assets and jailed, at the very least! Unfortunately, they are just the puppets; the string-pullers have long since cut themselves loose.

I suspect the revelations and resignations that are to come will stagger us all, but it is all damage limitation as far as TPTB are concerned. Could be we'll get them too, though. Keep thinking good thoughts!
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The EU arrest warrant (signed by the Queen on 18th November 2003) allows us to be arrested without charge and held indefinitely with no right to see a solicitor, make a phone call, or even a right to a trial. You can simply disappear.

Under the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act (SOCPA) 2005, we can now be arrested and held in the cells by any police officer for any petty offence, like dropping litter. Before it had to be an offense that carried a 5 year jail term. This also applies to all of the EU's 107,000 regulations. Do you know them all?

From drjn.co.uk

It's gotta be bullshit lol.. unless i was painfully unaware of this country's legislature..


I am trying to find a few sites myself but I dont know the more I read the worse I start to feel.

Found this in regard to what you posted and I dont know about BS anymore...

Charged for quoting George Orwell in public

In another example of the Government's draconian stance on political protest, Steven Jago, 36, a management accountant, yesterday became the latest person to be charged under the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act.

On 18 June, Mr Jago carried a placard in Whitehall bearing the George Orwell quote: In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. In his possession, he had several copies of an article in the American magazine Vanity Fair headlined "Blair's Big Brother Legacy", which were confiscated by the police. The implication that I read from this statement at the time was that I was being accused of handing out subversive material, said Mr Jago. Yesterday, the author, Henry Porter, the magazine's London editor, wrote to Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, expressing concern that the freedom of the press would be severely curtailed if such articles were used in evidence under the Act.

Mr Porter said: The police told Mr Jago this was 'politically motivated' material, and suggested it was evidence of his desire to break the law. I therefore seek your assurance that possession of Vanity Fair within a designated area is not regarded as 'politically motivated' and evidence of conscious law-breaking.

Scotland Yard has declined to comment.

[link to www.melonfarmers.co.uk]
 Quoting: Kyuubi


Un-Fucking-Believable!

It's from The Independant as well.. It's gotta be legit.

Nice link man, tis definitely one for the bookmarks.


I can't believe this stuff is going on! What the hell is going on with this country? So much for freedom of speech..
I mean, sure, it was Whitehall, but I'm still pretty sure that this contradicts our human rights in some way, shape or form :/

After putting in abit of research last night, I've come to the conclusion, that our Government is in violation of several of their own legislations, and the Queen is abusing her position, and not putting rest to the situation..

Can't link you up, I'm at a friends doing some mixing.. Got no info here..

Keep me posted if you find anything else to disgust and appaul me lol..

I'll get back on it later.


Thanks man.
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where's the HANG THEM UNTIL THEY'RE DEAD option?
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Got rope?
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lol! :P
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I don't think there can be many people who actually think Gordon Brown has any idea how to sort out this mess.

Mind you, regardless who was running the country i don't think they'd do much better.


Yeah lol. Not too keen on Cameron either.. Or any of our parties tbh. They just don't listen to the people anymore..

..Not that they ever really did I guess.


If I had to rank the main party leaders, it would go Clegg > Brown > Cameron. I disagree with some of the Lib Dems policies though, and will probably vote Green at the next election.


You left out Vince Cable; not a party leader, as such, but an important politician to be encouraged in my opinion, despite being a Liberal. Also, Ashley Mote - UKIP MEP - is a good man to keep an eye on.

But our most dangerous "fifth-column" organisation calls itself "Common Purpose" and they are everywhere, steadily and secretly undermining our country's social infrastructure and preparing us for full EU integration. What they do is nothing short of treasonous, in my opinion.

As for the "banksters", their orchestrated and insincere apology was totally inadequate and patronising. They should be stripped of their assets and jailed, at the very least! Unfortunately, they are just the puppets; the string-pullers have long since cut themselves loose.

I suspect the revelations and resignations that are to come will stagger us all, but it is all damage limitation as far as TPTB are concerned. Could be we'll get them too, though. Keep thinking good thoughts!
 Quoting: Merlin 597295


Still not convinced on TPTB... But if it's for real, there should be clearer clues to surface in the near future, and I'll be keeping an eye out, believe you me..

As for this Common Purpose business... never heard of it. Though that may well be because I live under a rock :P

Link me up? . The more legitimate information ends up on this thread, the better.

And...thanks for heads up, it'll be something else to look into when I get the chance.


Thanks again, keep a free mind :P
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