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FF (OP) User ID: 456207 ![]() 02/11/2009 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heavy Bombs The use of DIME (dense inert material explosives) were evident, though it is unsure whether depleted uranium were used in the south. In the civilian areas, surviving patients were found to have limbs truncated by DIME, since the stumps apart from being characteristically cut off in guillotine fashion also fail to bleed. Bomb casing and shrapnel are extremely heavy. Fuel Air Explosives Bunker busters and implosion bombs have been used . There are buildings especially the 8 storey Science and Technology Building of the Islamic University of Gaza which had been reduced to a pile of rubble no higher than 5-6 feet. Silent Bombs People in Gaza described a silent bomb which is extremely destructive. The bomb arrives as a silent projectile at most with a whistling sound and creates a large area where all objects and living things are vaporized with minimal trace. We are unable to fit this into conventional weapons but the possibility of new particle weapons being tested should be suspected. DIMEs were reported so far but I not so much the two other secret weapons mentioned here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 608023 ![]() 02/11/2009 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There were also invisible Shells used. When fired from a Howitzer they make no sound and cannot be seen with the naked eye. They interact with metal particle traces in the air, which is why some researchers suspect Phosphorus, Tungsten and DU were used extensively, Phosphorus is a metal which many people do not know. When these shells were used they create a plasma shockwave that travels outward at many times the speed of sound, but since it creates so much instantaneous heat by vaporizing the metals for a fraction of a second it creates a massive vacuum and implodes into itself with almost the same force. The actual heat from this reaction only exists for a micro second but the explosion/implosion happens so fast that everything within the effect radius is virtually ripped apart on a near molecular level. These were also called cancellation bombs when they were being tested because the action of the explosion/implosion cancel the effects that can be seen, the sound, flash etc etc. Not much is known about these weapons and it is believed they are not "Fired" via the large cannon, but that the charge is generated, or pulsed, and focused down the barrel with an insertable unit that is designed for a conventional artillery piece, similar to the targeted amplified radiation device from the 1960's, but far more advanced. The generator insert would contain an isotope that is bombarded with a small quantity of reactive sub atomic particles and creates a coherent energy mass that is focused out the barrel and yet is heavy enough to fall on the desired target it is aimed at. |
FF (OP) User ID: 456207 ![]() 02/11/2009 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There were also invisible Shells used. When fired from a Howitzer they make no sound and cannot be seen with the naked eye. They interact with metal particle traces in the air, which is why some researchers suspect Phosphorus, Tungsten and DU were used extensively, Phosphorus is a metal which many people do not know. When these shells were used they create a plasma shockwave that travels outward at many times the speed of sound, but since it creates so much instantaneous heat by vaporizing the metals for a fraction of a second it creates a massive vacuum and implodes into itself with almost the same force. The actual heat from this reaction only exists for a micro second but the explosion/implosion happens so fast that everything within the effect radius is virtually ripped apart on a near molecular level. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 608023These were also called cancellation bombs when they were being tested because the action of the explosion/implosion cancel the effects that can be seen, the sound, flash etc etc. Not much is known about these weapons and it is believed they are not "Fired" via the large cannon, but that the charge is generated, or pulsed, and focused down the barrel with an insertable unit that is designed for a conventional artillery piece, similar to the targeted amplified radiation device from the 1960's, but far more advanced. The generator insert would contain an isotope that is bombarded with a small quantity of reactive sub atomic particles and creates a coherent energy mass that is focused out the barrel and yet is heavy enough to fall on the desired target it is aimed at. That sounds like from a science fiction movie but I know such advanced shit exists indeed. I think Gaza the attack had more that one purpose, one of it being to scare Iran from these super secret weapons. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 611293 ![]() 02/11/2009 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly , can anyone be so inhuman as to use these monstrous weapons? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272140![]() Weapons were ment to kill. Learn to spell.Israel is the Synagogue of Satan.They will be destroyed. It was a quote of his bad spelling. Learn true prophecy. |
FreeFlow (OP) User ID: 456207 ![]() 02/13/2009 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By: Conn Hallinan on: 13.02.2009 [08:52 ] by Conn Hallinan Foreign Policy in Focus Erik Fosse, a Norwegian cardiologist, worked in Gaza hospitals during the recent war. "It was as if they had stepped on a mine," he says of certain Palestinian patients he treated. "But there was no shrapnel in the wound. Some had lost their legs. It looked as though they had been sliced off. I have been to war zones for 30 years, but I have never seen such injuries before." Dr. Fosse was describing the effects of a U.S. "focused lethality" weapon that minimizes explosive damage to structures while inflicting catastrophic wounds on its victims. But where did the Israelis get this weapon? And was their widespread use in the attack on Gaza a field test for a new generation of explosives? DIMEd to Death The specific weapon is called a Dense Inert Metal Explosive (DIME). In 2000, the U.S. Air Force teamed up with the University of California's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. The weapon wraps high explosives with a tungsten alloy and other metals like cobalt, nickel, or iron in a carbon fiber/epoxy container. When the bomb explodes the container evaporates, and the tungsten turns into micro-shrapnel that is extremely lethal within a 13–foot radius. Tungsten is inert, so it doesn't react chemically with the explosive. While a non-inert metal like aluminum would increase the blast, tungsten actually contains the explosion to a limited area. Within the weapon's range, however, it's inordinately lethal. According to Norwegian doctor Mad Gilbert, the blast results in multiple amputations and "very severe fractures. The muscles are sort of split from the bones, hanging loose, and you also have quite severe burns." Most of those who survive the initial blast quickly succumb to septicemia and organ collapse. "Initially, everything seems in order…but it turns out on operation that dozens of miniature particles can be found in all their organs," says Dr. Jam Brommundt, a German doctor working in Kham Younis, a city in southern Gaza. "It seems to be some sort of explosive or shell that disperses tiny particles…that penetrate all organs, these miniature injuries, you are not able to attack them surgically." According to Brommundt, the particles cause multiple organ failures. If by some miracle victims resist those conditions, they are almost certain to develop rhabdomyosarcoma (RMS), a particularly deadly cancer that deeply embeds itself into tissue and is almost impossible to treat. A 2005 U.S. Department of health study found that tungsten stimulated RMS cancers even in very low doses. All of the 92 rats tested developed the cancer. While DIMEs were originally designed to avoid "collateral" damage generated by standard high-explosive bombs, the weapon's lethality and profound long-term toxicity hardly seem like an improvement. It appears DIME weapons may have been used in the 2006 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, but not enough to alarm medical workers. But in Gaza, the ordinance was widely used. Al-Shifa alone has seen 100 to 150 victims of these attacks. Gaza as Test Dr. Gilbert told the Oslo Gardermoen, "there is a strong suspicion…that Gaza is now being used as a test laboratory for new weapons." DIME is a U.S. invention. Did the Israelis get the weapons from the United States, or did they design similar ones themselves? Given the close relations between the two militaries, it isn't unlikely that the U.S. Air Force supplied the weapons or, at least, the specifications on how to construct them. And since the United States has yet to use the device in a war, it would certainly benefit from seeing how these new "focused lethality" weapons worked under battlefield conditions. Marc Garlasco, Human Rights Watch's senior military advisor, says "it remains to be seen how Israel has acquired the technology, whether they purchased weapons from the United States under some agreement, or if they in fact licensed or developed their own type of munitions." DIME weapons aren't banned under the Geneva Conventions because they have never been officially tested. However, any weapon capable of inflicting such horrendous damage is normally barred from use, particularly in one of the most densely populated regions in the world. For one thing, no one knows how long the tungsten remains in the environment or how it could affect people who return to homes attacked by a DIME. University of Arizona cancer researcher Dr. Mark Witten, who investigates links between tungsten and leukemia, says that in his opinion "there needs to be much more research on the health effects of tungsten before the military increases its usage." Beyond DIMEs DIMEs weren't the only controversial weapons used in Gaza. The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) also made generous use of white phosphorus, a chemical that burns with intense heat and inflicts terrible burns on victims. In its vapor form it also damages breathing passages. International law prohibits the weapon's use near population areas and requires that "all reasonable precautions" be taken to avoid civilians. Israel initially denied using the chemical. "The IDF acts only in accordance with what is permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus," said Israel's Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi on January 13. But eyewitness accounts in Gaza and Israel soon forced the IDF to admit that they were, indeed, using the substance. On January 20, the IDF confessed to using phosphorus artillery shells as smokescreens, as well as 200 U.S.-made M825A1 phosphorus mortar shells on "Hamas fighters and rocket launching crews in northern Gaza." Three of those shells hit the UN Works and Relief Agency compound on January 15, igniting a fire that destroyed hundreds of tons of humanitarian supplies. A phosphorus shell also hit Al-Quds hospital in Gaza City. The Israelis say there were Hamas fighters near the two targets, a charge that witnesses adamantly deny. Donatella Rovera of Amnesty International said: "Such extensive use of this weapon in Gaza's densely-populated residential neighborhoods…and its toll on civilians is a war crime." Israel is also accused of using depleted uranium ammunition (DUA), which a UN sub-commission in 2002 found in violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the UN Charter, the Geneva Conventions, the International Convention Against Torture, the Conventional Weapons Convention, and the Hague Conventions against the use of poison weapons. DUA isn't highly radioactive, but after exploding, some of it turns into a gas that can easily be inhaled. The dense shrapnel that survives also tends to bury itself deeply, leaching low-level radioactivity into water-tables. War Crimes? Other human-rights groups, including B'Tselem, Gisha, and Physicians for Human Rights, charge that the IDF intentionally targeted medical personal, killing over a dozen, including paramedics and ambulance drivers. The International Federation for Human Rights called on the UN Security Council to refer Israel to the International Criminal Court for possible war crimes. Although the Israelis dismiss the war-crimes charges, the fact that the Israeli cabinet held a special meeting on January 25 to discuss the issue suggests they're concerned about being charged with "disproportionate" use of force. The Geneva Conventions require belligerents to at "all times" distinguish between combatants and civilians and to avoid "disproportionate force" in seeking military gains. Hamas' use of unguided missiles fired at Israel would also be a war crime under the Conventions. "The one-sidedness of casualty figures is one measure of disproportion," says Richard Falk, the UN's human rights envoy for the occupied territories. A total of 14 Israelis have been killed in the fighting, three of them civilians killed by rockets, 11 of them soldiers, four of the latter by "friendly fire." Some 50 IDF soldiers were also wounded. In contrast, 1,330 Palestinians have died and 5,450 were injured, the overwhelming bulk of them civilians. "This kind of fighting constitutes a blatant violation of the laws of warfare, which we ask to be investigated by the Commission of War Crimes," a coalition of Israeli human rights groups and Amnesty International said in a joint statement. "The responsibility of the state of Israel is beyond doubt." Enter the Hague? Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann would coordinate the defense of any soldier or commander charged with a war crime. In any case, the United States would veto any effort by the UN Security Council to refer Israelis to the International Court at The Hague. But, as the Financial Times points out, "all countries have an obligation to search out those accused of 'grave' breaches of the rules of war and to put them on trial or extradite them to a country that will." That was the basis under which the British police arrested Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet in 1998. "We're in a seismic shift in international law," Amnesty International legal advisor Christopher Hall told the Financial Times, who says Israel's foreign ministry is already examining the risk to Israelis who travel abroad. "It's like walking across the street against a red light," he says. "The risk may be low, but you're going to think twice before committing a crime or traveling if you have committed one." Conn Hallinan is a Foreign Policy In Focus columnist. [link to www.antiwar.com] I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 614079 ![]() 02/13/2009 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly , can anyone be so inhuman as to use these monstrous weapons? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605163![]() It's easy, if you aren't actually human. Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents Published: 07.30.06, 17:37 / Israel News The Yesha Rabbinical Council announced in response to an IDF attack in Kfar Qanna that "according to Jewish law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as 'innocents' of the enemy." All of the discussions on Christian morality are weakening the spirit of the army and the nation and are costing us in the blood of our soldiers and civilians," the statement said. (Efrat Weiss) [link to www.ynetnews.com] |
FreeFlow (OP) User ID: 456207 ![]() 02/14/2009 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Public meeting: Two doctors' eyewitness account of war on Gaza, Mon 16 Feb @ 7pm Islington Friends of Yibna | 13.02.2009 20:10 | Anti-militarism | Palestine | Repression | World Eye Witnesses and the authors of "The Wounds of Gaza", published in the Lancet last week, Dr Ang Swee Chai and Dr Ghassan Abu Sittah, will speak at our next IFY meeting at Islington Town Hall, on Monday, 16 February 7pm. See below their report in the Lancet of the horrific suffering they found in Gaza, resulting from the 3 weeks Israeli onslaught. The two British surgeons, who treated the Palestinians wounded during the Israeli bombardment of Gaza, have just returned from a fact finding mission to Gaza. They also visited Yibna and will report on their findings at the IFY meeting. Extracts from Press release 10 February 2009 What will happen to Gaza's wounded? Two surgeons who treated the Palestinians wounded during the Israeli bombardment of Gaza have now returned to their London hospitals. Both are keen to talk about the horrific and often unfamiliar range of injuries they witnessed and treated there. They are especially worried about what will happen to the wounded mothers and children of Gaza. Dr Swee Chai Ang and Dr Ghassan Abu Sittah are the co-authors of the devastating report just published in The Lancet "The Wounds of Gaza" see [link to www.thelancetglobalhealthnetwork.com] The report offers evidence of war crimes committed in Gaza by, amongst others, documenting injuries caused by phosphorous and new, experimental weapons. Dr Swee Chai Ang grew up feeling deep sympathy towards Israel. However, watching the relentless bombing of Beirut by Israeli war planes in the summer of 1982, her views began to change. When she learned of an international appeal for an orthopaedic surgeon to treat war victims in Beirut, she volunteered. She witnessed the Sabra & Shatila massacres and later recorded her experiences in her book "From Beirut to Jerusalem". Dr Swee Chai Ang is now consultant upper limb orthopaedic surgeon at Barts St. Bartholomews Hospital. Dr Ghassan Abu Sittah worked in Palestine during the first and second Intifada. He also treated wounded civilians in South Lebanon and in Iraq in 1991. Dr Ghassan Abu Sittah is a Plastic, Reconstructive and Cranifacial surgeon at Chelsea and Westminster Hospital. Both surgeons will also be discussing their findings at Islington Town Hall on 16th February at 7pm, showing photographs and other evidence of war crimes collated during their work in Gaza. The meeting, organized by Islington Friends of Yibna (IFY) is open to all. Islington Friends of Yibna e-mail: [email protected] [link to www.indymedia.org.uk] I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
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FreeFlow (OP) User ID: 456207 ![]() 02/19/2009 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The REAL casualty figures of Gaza - According to Medical Journal "The Lancet" By: LittleHelper on: 19.02.2009 [16:27 ] . . There was much dispute about the REAL casualty figures of the israeli assault on the Gaza Strip, with Israel denying everything and declaring the charges as nothing but Hamas 'propaganda lies'. Today we have a trustworthy source: The world famous British medical Journal "The Lancet". "The Lancet" was founded in 1823 and is today one of the worlds top media and press products in medical sciences. If the source is "The Lancet", you can be sure the figures are true. Between December 27, 2008 and January 18, 2009, the damage caused by israeli attackers was: Palestinians Dead : 1'350 - Children: 810 - Women: 150 - Hamas: 95 Palestinians Wounded : 5'450 - Children: 2'180 - Women: 730 Palestinian Buildings: - Destroyed: 4'000 - Damaged: 21'000 - Mosques: 40 Israelis Dead: - Zivilians: 3 - Soldiers: 13 - Wounded: 110 Please note the enormously high figures for palestinian child victims (!) I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ... |
Libra II User ID: 416981 ![]() 02/21/2009 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some of my friends asked me to demonstrate against Israel in connection with Gaza. I refused and told them that I would not demonstrate on behalf of some people who hated other people. I did however tell them I would go with them if the demonstration was not only against Israel, but also against Hamas who are behaving like little school children sending their deadly fireworks into Israel, and against the USA who supply Israel with their DEADLY DEADLY DEADLY weapons, and against an EU that just sits on its big fat arse and gently complains about Israel, and the UN who once thought it wanted to be a lion tamer. Do I need to mention all the others I would have liked to demonstrate against? |
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