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Anonymous Coward User ID: 306075 United States 02/15/2009 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine that you have two people marooned on a desert island, one person is a moral, truthful, devout christian, and the other person is areligious, immoral, unethical, devious. What would be the outcome of this situation? Quoting: holy roller 548848ENKI & ENLIL, standed on Earth. Look It Up |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 615553 Australia 02/15/2009 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine that you have two people marooned on a desert island, one person is a moral, truthful, devout christian, and the other person is areligious, immoral, unethical, devious. What would be the outcome of this situation? Quoting: holy roller 548848Hell In The Pacific. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 548848 United States 02/15/2009 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine two religious systems developing in different areas of the world, one religion comes from a very resource-scarce area, a desert where even water is parceled out, and the other religion developes in a very resource-abundant region where space, food, and water are easy to aquire. How would the moral systems of these two religions likely differ? |
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We Are Dust User ID: 615598 United States 02/15/2009 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine that you have two people marooned on a desert island, one person is a moral, truthful, devout christian, and the other person is areligious, immoral, unethical, devious. What would be the outcome of this situation? Quoting: holy roller 548848Person B kills person A for food after he tires of eating vegetation. But later, person B goes crazy because there is no one to talk to. So, in a moment of insanity person B tries to swim for it and dies. Get it? For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust. Psa 103:14 * |
Lawman User ID: 615366 United States 02/15/2009 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | morality is in no way connected to religion Quoting: Anonymous Coward 615608First off, the Bible is not of religion. Where does morality come from? I do not care who you are, most people derive morals from the Bible. Ever see how unruly children are without guidance? ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
We Are Dust User ID: 615598 United States 02/15/2009 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine two religious systems developing in different areas of the world, one religion comes from a very resource-scarce area, a desert where even water is parceled out, and the other religion developes in a very resource-abundant region where space, food, and water are easy to aquire. How would the moral systems of these two religions likely differ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 548848Group A has a deeper appreciation for the Creator. Group B does not, to the degree of group A. All that follows from that perspective (human behavior, codes, laws, etc.) will directly reflect the aforementioned foundation of belief. For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust. Psa 103:14 * |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 615608 Germany 02/15/2009 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | morality is in no way connected to religion Quoting: LawmanFirst off, the Bible is not of religion. Where does morality come from? I do not care who you are, most people derive morals from the Bible. Ever see how unruly children are without guidance? If you were to derive all your morals from the bible, you'd be in a lot of trouble. Did you read all of it? Religious people derive their morals from their religious education, what they were told was in the bible. In the bible are some interesting passages, I really hope you don't derive your morals from there: (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. (Exodus 21:15 NAB) Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. Just to name very few of the dozens of dozens (pun intended) of accounts of the bible posing as a very doubtful guide concerning morals. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 616554 United States 02/17/2009 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine that you have two people marooned on a desert island, one person is a moral, truthful, devout christian, and the other person is areligious, immoral, unethical, devious. What would be the outcome of this situation? Quoting: holy roller 548848That implies that religion is required for morality, which is an absurd contention. Monkeys have a sense of morality, say scientists Times Online 2009-02-17 MONKEYS and apes have a sense of morality and the rudimentary ability to tell right from wrong, according to new research. In a series of studies scientists have found that monkeys and apes can make judgments about fairness, offer altruistic help and empathise when a fellow animal is ill or in difficulties. They even appear to have consciences and the ability to remember obligations. Address : < [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 595899 United States 02/17/2009 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | morality is in no way connected to religion Quoting: Anonymous Coward 615608actually the ALL is not moral it just Is I am sure that when we were just scattered tribes morality developed in the hearts and minds of those interacting with others but of course there were still thugs and tyrants so Law emerged through consensus as a way for more than just one family to be able to live together and through co-operative efforts have a better greater life Unfortunately then came priests and lawyers . |
Lawman User ID: 615366 United States 02/17/2009 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Five minutes of your time.... [link to www.youtube.com] ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
The Psychedelic Magi User ID: 611217 United States 02/17/2009 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you say, "troll thread"? I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action! A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others... ------------------------------------ In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them. This is the Cosm. This is both I and You. I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine! ------------------ as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi "the gift of love makes much more sense than frankincense gold and myrhh" - Only Me |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 553712 United States 02/17/2009 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine that you have two people marooned on a desert island, one person is a moral, truthful, devout christian, and the other person is areligious, immoral, unethical, devious. What would be the outcome of this situation? Quoting: holy roller 548848This is the first question in series of questions designed to teach PRACTICAL evolution to Christians. I heard it discussed on Sunday morning on NPR. Simplify the description down to "good, socially positive" vs "evil, socially negative". The first question's prediction is usually that the evil one would kill the good one. Next question is a group of people, good vs evil on same island, same prediction. NEXT, 2 islands: far away enough so that they can't be reached from each other, on one island the good group and on the other island, the evil group. Prediction: the evil group will destroy themselves and the good group will survive. Shows that social behaviours such as kindness and altruism contribute to species survival. This is what the Dali Lama has been saying for a while...compassion for others is is normal. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 616560 Germany 02/17/2009 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine that you have two people marooned on a desert island, one person is a moral, truthful, devout christian, and the other person is areligious, immoral, unethical, devious. What would be the outcome of this situation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553712This is the first question in series of questions designed to teach PRACTICAL evolution to Christians. I heard it discussed on Sunday morning on NPR. Simplify the description down to "good, socially positive" vs "evil, socially negative". The first question's prediction is usually that the evil one would kill the good one. Next question is a group of people, good vs evil on same island, same prediction. NEXT, 2 islands: far away enough so that they can't be reached from each other, on one island the good group and on the other island, the evil group. Prediction: the evil group will destroy themselves and the good group will survive. Shows that social behaviours such as kindness and altruism contribute to species survival. This is what the Dali Lama has been saying for a while...compassion for others is is normal. I'm curious, how does this go on, and what follows from that, what can one learn? |
shyla User ID: 421845 United States 02/17/2009 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally I believe the religious one would end up losing faith and the other would end up gaining faith because his prayer for the bible thumper to stfu had finally been answered! "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -John Emerich Edward Dalberg-Acton “I was never really insane except upon occasions when my heart was touched.” -Edgar Allan Poe |