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Look at something as complex as the human eye. It works perfectly as a means of sensory information entering the body, and being processes, then stored by the body.

This could not possibly be the result of random permutations over millions of years.

Look at all the creatures in nature - if evolution was how we arrived where we are today, there would be millions of other species still 'evolving'.

DNA is akin to a computer coding system. It has an intelligent design behind it; why do some people still insist that we evolved from gelatenaous goo over millions of years?

Anyone who really thinks about it can see we are not just random lifeforms that happen to 'work'. We have been designed, as a car designer tunes, perfects and refines a car when he designs it.

I think the truth is, that there is variation in all species, but ultimately, our blueprint has been determined by the DNA structure/sequence inside us.

There is plenty of variation between humans - black, white, ginger, chinese, asian, tall, small, attractive, ugly, fat, thin, intelligent, dumb.... the list goes on.

The 'weaker' variations no longer die out, as we do not live as hunter-gatherers anymore.

I don't think Darwin had it quite right.
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I just cant even begin. Man is no more than a Parasitic thorn in the side of the Planet Earth that decides that whatever it can not eat use or fuck must die.

That is evolution
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What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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Re: Evolution is impossible
[link to www.livescience.com]
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I agree with OP.
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permutations of DNA aren't random, rather they're always improvements upon something what succeeded previously
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OP your an idiot, just go bak to your church, everything is fine, see you at the fema camps.

thx for NOT reading darwin's theroys, it would suck if u actually did and were informed about stuff, and things.
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the natural world isn't very random at all. matter is self-organizing at the subatomic, atomic, chemical, and cellular levels, it's a very intense system of order all they way up
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permutations of DNA aren't random, rather they're always improvements upon something what succeeded previously
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That negates the story about how blue eyes came about.

What benefit is having blue coloured irises in terms of survival/improvement? None. It's just a random change.
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the natural world isn't very random at all. matter is self-organizing at the subatomic, atomic, chemical, and cellular levels, it's a very intense system of order all they way up
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but OP thinks GOD did everything, its much more easier for him to live that way, plz dont make fun of him and use big words, jesus might cry.
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Re: Evolution is impossible
Look at something as complex as the human eye. It works perfectly as a means of sensory information entering the body, and being processes, then stored by the body.

This could not possibly be the result of random permutations over millions of years.
>>>>> Why? Just saying it can't be is not really an argument. There have been books about this, read them.



Look at all the creatures in nature - if evolution was how we arrived where we are today, there would be millions of other species still 'evolving'.
>>>>> In fact they are still evolving.

DNA is akin to a computer coding system. It has an intelligent design behind it; why do some people still insist that we evolved from gelatenaous goo over millions of years?
>>>>> Because it makes a lot of sense once you really spend time thinking about it.

Anyone who really thinks about it can see we are not just random lifeforms that happen to 'work'. We have been designed, as a car designer tunes, perfects and refines a car when he designs it.
>>>>> see last answer.

I think the truth is, that there is variation in all species, but ultimately, our blueprint has been determined by the DNA structure/sequence inside us.
>>>>> dna both determines your species, and these minor variations, after all about 99% of the dna of every human is the same.

There is plenty of variation between humans - black, white, ginger, chinese, asian, tall, small, attractive, ugly, fat, thin, intelligent, dumb.... the list goes on.
>>>>> yup, especially dumb (sorry)

The 'weaker' variations no longer die out, as we do not live as hunter-gatherers anymore.
>>>>> What? Read up on evolution and mutation, nothing has to die out, we adapt.

I don't think Darwin had it quite right.
>>>>> I don't think you have it quite right.
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You mean my ancestors are not monkeys?
I did not ever think so... nice points, OP!
Dawinism is just demoralizing crap of the NWO.

Evolution!
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OP your an idiot, just go bak to your church, everything is fine, see you at the fema camps.

thx for NOT reading darwin's theroys, it would suck if u actually did and were informed about stuff, and things.
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>>darwin's theroys,<<


Uh huh.. DARWIN'S THEORY - NOT FACT.

Try to remember that, AC.
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Re: Evolution is impossible
the natural world isn't very random at all. matter is self-organizing at the subatomic, atomic, chemical, and cellular levels, it's a very intense system of order all they way up
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You use the term 'self-organising'. In quantum physics, this ordering has to be the result of a conscious observer.

This leads to questions about God and other theological implications. I'm not religious at all, but I don't believe things just 'order themselves'. There has to be something behind the ordering, something controlling it, which is why I don't believe evolution is correct.
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Re: Evolution is impossible
permutations of DNA aren't random, rather they're always improvements upon something what succeeded previously


That negates the story about how blue eyes came about.

What benefit is having blue coloured irises in terms of survival/improvement? None. It's just a random change.
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its called genes moron...

why must ppl talk about things and have thoughts on things of which they have no clue wtf they r talkin about?

its like two morons fighting about religion that have ONLY read the bible thinking thats the only bit of research ever done on anything, or in this case darwin, in which ppl havnt even read his s**t at all so why r you ppl even talking?

ya know what, dont answer that, cuz im sure it'll just be as stupid as OP
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Re: Evolution is impossible
the natural world isn't very random at all. matter is self-organizing at the subatomic, atomic, chemical, and cellular levels, it's a very intense system of order all they way up

but OP thinks GOD did everything, its much more easier for him to live that way, plz dont make fun of him and use big words, jesus might cry.
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How intelligent of you to assume that I'm religious.
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Re: Evolution is impossible
the natural world isn't very random at all. matter is self-organizing at the subatomic, atomic, chemical, and cellular levels, it's a very intense system of order all they way up


You use the term 'self-organising'. In quantum physics, this ordering has to be the result of a conscious observer.

This leads to questions about God and other theological implications. I'm not religious at all, but I don't believe things just 'order themselves'. There has to be something behind the ordering, something controlling it, which is why I don't believe evolution is correct.
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Every tried shaking a box of cereals? The big ones go up, the small ones go down - very very simple and basic, but self organising.
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Re: Evolution is impossible
the natural world isn't very random at all. matter is self-organizing at the subatomic, atomic, chemical, and cellular levels, it's a very intense system of order all they way up


You use the term 'self-organising'. In quantum physics, this ordering has to be the result of a conscious observer.

This leads to questions about God and other theological implications. I'm not religious at all, but I don't believe things just 'order themselves'. There has to be something behind the ordering, something controlling it, which is why I don't believe evolution is correct.
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THAT MEANS YOU BELIEVE IN A GOD! maybe not the jewish/christian god, maybe not the islamic god (all the same crap) but what r u decribing A god. maybe the easter bunny? that would be kool actually.
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Re: Evolution is impossible
the natural world isn't very random at all. matter is self-organizing at the subatomic, atomic, chemical, and cellular levels, it's a very intense system of order all they way up


You use the term 'self-organising'. In quantum physics, this ordering has to be the result of a conscious observer.

This leads to questions about God and other theological implications. I'm not religious at all, but I don't believe things just 'order themselves'. There has to be something behind the ordering, something controlling it, which is why I don't believe evolution is correct.
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Ever tried shaking a box of cereals? The big ones go up, the small ones go down - very very simple and basic, but self organising.
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the natural world isn't very random at all. matter is self-organizing at the subatomic, atomic, chemical, and cellular levels, it's a very intense system of order all they way up


You use the term 'self-organising'. In quantum physics, this ordering has to be the result of a conscious observer.

This leads to questions about God and other theological implications. I'm not religious at all, but I don't believe things just 'order themselves'. There has to be something behind the ordering, something controlling it, which is why I don't believe evolution is correct.

THAT MEANS YOU BELIEVE IN A GOD! maybe not the jewish/christian god, maybe not the islamic god (all the same crap) but what r u decribing A god. maybe the easter bunny? that would be kool actually.
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Wrong. I don't believe in a god/deity/supreme being.

Again your making assumptions.
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Re: Evolution is impossible
only conssioucness evolves.

And you can see it in all forms of life right now.
In man and in other living creatures.
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the natural world isn't very random at all. matter is self-organizing at the subatomic, atomic, chemical, and cellular levels, it's a very intense system of order all they way up


You use the term 'self-organising'. In quantum physics, this ordering has to be the result of a conscious observer.

This leads to questions about God and other theological implications. I'm not religious at all, but I don't believe things just 'order themselves'. There has to be something behind the ordering, something controlling it, which is why I don't believe evolution is correct.

THAT MEANS YOU BELIEVE IN A GOD! maybe not the jewish/christian god, maybe not the islamic god (all the same crap) but what r u decribing A god. maybe the easter bunny? that would be kool actually.


Wrong. I don't believe in a god/deity/supreme being.

Again your making assumptions.
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read what you just F****** typed
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OP your an idiot, just go bak to your church, everything is fine, see you at the fema camps.

thx for NOT reading darwin's theroys, it would suck if u actually did and were informed about stuff, and things.


>>darwin's theroys,<<


Uh huh.. DARWIN'S THEORY - NOT FACT.

Try to remember that, AC.
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You need to learn what the word "theory" means in science. It does not mean "idea" as you propose here.
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I think the truth is, that there is variation in all species, but ultimately, our blueprint has been determined by the DNA structure/sequence inside us.

There is plenty of variation between humans - black, white, ginger, chinese, asian, tall, small, attractive, ugly, fat, thin, intelligent, dumb.... the list goes on.

The 'weaker' variations no longer die out, as we do not live as hunter-gatherers anymore.

I don't think Darwin had it quite right.
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Let me get this straight. Your "Intelligent Designer" couldn't figure out how to properly adapt an organism to a single biome, so he/she/it/them instead designed a whole variety of organisms, set them loose, and only the fit ones survived?

That sounds more like piss-poor planning to me, than an exercise in intelligence. Sure; I can design an eye, but I can't figure out albinism is bad for you so I'll code that in to the DNA and try it out on a few unlucky creations!

And you are so tangibly close, but unwilling to take the next logical step; the designer DID come up with this wild variety, and tested them out in the real world. And took those that were fit, and survived, and subjected them to more variation, and those who fit and survived that round were even more elegant.

By those same tiny steps a vaguely light-sensitive patch on the skin can move, step by step, usefulness to usefulness (there are many organisms alive today that can sense only light and shadow, or who have just a generalized sense of light, or who have eyes that do not focus, or who have eyes that do not turn), you arrive, in a few examples, with organs we can describe as eyes.

Which include the very different insect eye, animal eye, and octopoid eye; each arrived at differently, each structurally different, each showing that it was a completely new draft with no particular reference to the others.

Same for the wings of birds, bats, and insects, which besides allowing flight and being described as wings, are structurally and functionally unique.



Look at something as complex as the human eye. It works perfectly as a means of sensory information entering the body, and being processes, then stored by the body.
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If you think the human eye is perfected, I have an opthamologist to introduce you to.

Me, I would love to have a tapetum lucidum. I do a lot of work in low light conditions, and a domestic house cat has me totally beat in that environment.

I also wonder, if this same intelligence put the planets in the sky, why he/she/it/them didn't give us humans just a bit more angular resolution; enough where we could actually tell those lights in the sky were different than the stars (that is, aside from the moving, and the not-twinkling part.) What a callous creator, to put something as lovely as Saturn out there, but require we add an artificial eye of at least 60 cm in diameter to see it!



Look at all the creatures in nature - if evolution was how we arrived where we are today, there would be millions of other species still 'evolving'.
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They do. At that same rate of change that took them millions of years to get where they are. If it takes ten million years to get from a small mammal with clumped toes to a horse, are you surprised that in a few thousand years of domestication none of those horses have grown wings yet?
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the natural world isn't very random at all. matter is self-organizing at the subatomic, atomic, chemical, and cellular levels, it's a very intense system of order all they way up


You use the term 'self-organising'. In quantum physics, this ordering has to be the result of a conscious observer.

This leads to questions about God and other theological implications. I'm not religious at all, but I don't believe things just 'order themselves'. There has to be something behind the ordering, something controlling it, which is why I don't believe evolution is correct.


Every tried shaking a box of cereals? The big ones go up, the small ones go down - very very simple and basic, but self organising.
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Who made the box? Who made the cereal? Who noticed the reaction?

There is just way to much perfection all around.

-peace
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Look at something as complex as the human eye. It works perfectly as a means of sensory information entering the body, and being processes, then stored by the body.

This could not possibly be the result of random permutations over millions of years.

Look at all the creatures in nature - if evolution was how we arrived where we are today, there would be millions of other species still 'evolving'.

DNA is akin to a computer coding system. It has an intelligent design behind it; why do some people still insist that we evolved from gelatenaous goo over millions of years?

Anyone who really thinks about it can see we are not just random lifeforms that happen to 'work'. We have been designed, as a car designer tunes, perfects and refines a car when he designs it.

I think the truth is, that there is variation in all species, but ultimately, our blueprint has been determined by the DNA structure/sequence inside us.

There is plenty of variation between humans - black, white, ginger, chinese, asian, tall, small, attractive, ugly, fat, thin, intelligent, dumb.... the list goes on.

The 'weaker' variations no longer die out, as we do not live as hunter-gatherers anymore.

I don't think Darwin had it quite right.
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Stuff your stupid religon back up your sorry stupid ass



Genome data moves Darwin forward

UPI
2009-02-14

U.S. researchers say data from the Human Genome Project are shedding new light on Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

"Over the ages we cataloged the anatomical differences between people and eventually biochemical differences, too. Now we can get down to the molecular differences," Carlos D. Bustamante, a professor of computational biology at Cornell University, told The Washington Post. (NYSE:WPO)

Researchers said many common health problems -- such as obesity, diabetes and high blood pressure -- may have been caused by natural selection.

The report said more than 300 human genes show evidence of recent mutations and it is estimated that at least 10

percent of the human genome has undergone natural selection during the past 200,000 years.
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TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND YEARS OF PROVEN EVOLUTION


Not the pissly assed six thousand years the flat earth bilbe writers imagined when they created your drooler hump back, humpty dumpty, dofus god character .

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OP your an idiot, just go bak to your church, everything is fine, see you at the fema camps.

thx for NOT reading darwin's theroys, it would suck if u actually did and were informed about stuff, and things.


>>darwin's theroys,<<


Uh huh.. DARWIN'S THEORY - NOT FACT.

Try to remember that, AC.



You need to learn what the word "theory" means in science. It does not mean "idea" as you propose here.
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any thing is labeled with theory moron.... that just shows you dont even know the basics of science so why r u talking?
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Yea. The supernatural is much more probable.
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Re: Evolution is impossible
Here are two questions:

1) If there is a God, who created God?
2) Where did the first atom come from?

The point here is, there are things that you people will never figure out.
Here is where I am at: the Bible, however it came about, is a good “owners manual”, so to speak. It defines good and evil and outlines freedom.

Just know there are evil people on this planet that are using their law against you.
They have taken you away from the Biblical law and have taken advantage of you.

Anything else you pursue is mindless chatter.

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Here are two questions:

1) If there is a God, who created God?
2) Where did the first atom come from?

The point here is, there are things that you people will never figure out.
Here is where I am at: the Bible, however it came about, is a good “owners manual”, so to speak. It defines good and evil and outlines freedom.

Just know there are evil people on this planet that are using their law against you.
They have taken you away from the Biblical law and have taken advantage of you.

Anything else you pursue is mindless chatter.

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the bible also tells you to stfu and obey your goverment, i guess you forgot that part ROMANS 13, k now that i got that out of the way.

your second point... you ask that question why? there r many explantions and they actually make since instead of your bible crap, how about you check out the latest on M theory? rather then being happy with what you THINK you know and calling it a day. ( or in your case calling it a LIFE)
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Re: Evolution is impossible
Disproving Evolution is so easy.

One insect an Evolutionist will never be able to explain, and completely derails
the 'theory' of Evolution with no question and no room for argument:


See: Butterfly.
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