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Racist cartoon about Obama in NY Post? or just poor taste...

 
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The correct answer is appalling and racist. For those who complained about the supposed double standard that nobody would dare compare Obama to a chimp like so many did with Bush, I give you exhibit A. Sense a difference between the two?


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NY Post cartoon of dead chimpanzee stirs outrage

NEW YORK – A New York Post cartoon that some have interpreted as comparing President Barack Obama to a violent chimpanzee gunned down by police drew outrage Wednesday from civil rights leaders and elected officials who said it echoed racist stereotypes of blacks as monkeys.

The cartoon in Wednesday's Post by Sean Delonas shows two police officers, one with a smoking gun, standing over the body of a bullet-riddled chimp. The caption reads: "They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill."

The cartoon refers to a chimpanzee named Travis who was killed Monday by police in Stamford, Conn., after it mauled a friend of its owner.

Some critics called the cartoon racist and said it trivialized a tragedy in which a woman was disfigured and a chimpanzee killed. Others said the cartoon suggests that Obama should be assassinated. Many urged a boycott of the Post and the companies that advertise in it.

"How could the Post let this cartoon pass as satire?" said Barbara Ciara, president of the National Association of Black Journalists. "To compare the nation's first African-American commander in chief to a dead chimpanzee is nothing short of racist drivel."

State Sen. Eric Adams called it a "throwback to the days" when black men were lynched.

The Rev. Al Sharpton called the cartoon "troubling at best given the historic racist attacks of African-Americans as being synonymous with monkeys."

The cartoon set off a furious response against the Post. Its phones rang all day with angry callers. Protesters picketed the tabloid's Manhattan offices, demanding an apology and a boycott and chanting "shut the Post down."

Col Allan, editor-in-chief of the Post, defended the work.

"The cartoon is a clear parody of a current news event, to wit the shooting of a violent chimpanzee in Connecticut," Allan said in a statement. "It broadly mocks Washington's efforts to revive the economy. Again, Al Sharpton reveals himself as nothing more than a publicity opportunist."

The cartoon drew hundreds of comments on the Internet including at the liberal Huffington Post, where columnist Sam Stein wrote: "At its most benign, the cartoon suggests that the stimulus bill was so bad, monkeys may as well have written it. Most provocatively, it compares the president to a rabid chimp."

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs declined comment.

"I have not seen the cartoon," he told reporters aboard Air Force One as Obama returned to Washington from Arizona, where he announced his plan to deal with the foreclosure crisis. "But I don't think it's altogether newsworthy reading the New York Post."

It is not the first time that Delonas, the longtime cartoonist for the Post's Page Six, has raised eyebrows with a heavy-handed caricature.

An earlier Delonas cartoon made fun of Paul McCartney's ex-wife Heather Mills for having only one leg, and another compared gay people seeking marriage licenses to sheep lovers. In a cartoon last month, an enormous Jessica Simpson dumps boyfriend Tony Romo for Ronald McDonald.
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Neither.
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Neither.
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Incorrect. Thanks for playing.
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Well, I see it more as one of those Rorschach Tests, ie. ink blot tests. If you are a racist, or even a closet racist, you are going to perceive it as racist. People easily project their thoughts on to these kinda things.

Take cheaters for example. A cheater in a relationship may see their partner and become suspicious of them, if only for the reason that the cheater themselves are guilty. They project their insecurities. Also, someone with sex on the brain may see something naughty in an otherwise innocuous picture.

If someone is not a racist, or plays the racist card, they will not make the connection of monkey=black man. It's like a little kid seeing an obelisk, no way are they going to equate the obelisk with a phallis as some adults will.
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Re: Racist cartoon about Obama in NY Post? or just poor taste...
Well, I see it more as one of those Rorschach Tests, ie. ink blot tests. If you are a racist, or even a closet racist, you are going to perceive it as racist. People easily project their thoughts on to these kinda things.

Take cheaters for example. A cheater in a relationship may see their partner and become suspicious of them, if only for the reason that the cheater themselves are guilty. They project their insecurities. Also, someone with sex on the brain may see something naughty in an otherwise innocuous picture.

If someone is not a racist, or plays the racist card, they will not make the connection of monkey=black man. It's like a little kid seeing an obelisk, no way are they going to equate the obelisk with a phallis as some adults will.
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Ah I see. I'm racist, not simply aware of how images are historically situated.
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02/19/2009 12:04 AM
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Anybody who even would suggest that obama sat down and "wrote the stimulus bill" is a jackass. Nobody elected even read the whole thing, it was all put together by staffers, or you could say, 10,000 chimpanzees.

See the headline on cnn where the new AG says we are a nation of cowards on race. Guess what...he's right.
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Ha Ha. Chimp!
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Crap and here I thought the connection was Presidents = Chimps....
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Anybody who even would suggest that obama sat down and "wrote the stimulus bill" is a jackass. Nobody elected even read the whole thing, it was all put together by staffers, or you could say, 10,000 chimpanzees.

See the headline on cnn where the new AG says we are a nation of cowards on race. Guess what...he's right.
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Hye, he is right because if the people weren't cowards they would hang anyone that ever used the racist word again.
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The correct answer is appalling and racist. For those who complained about the supposed double standard that nobody would dare compare Obama to a chimp like so many did with Bush, I give you exhibit A. Sense a difference between the two?


[link to news.yahoo.com]


NY Post cartoon of dead chimpanzee stirs outrage

NEW YORK – A New York Post cartoon that some have interpreted as comparing President Barack Obama to a violent chimpanzee gunned down by police drew outrage Wednesday from civil rights leaders and elected officials who said it echoed racist stereotypes of blacks as monkeys.

The cartoon in Wednesday's Post by Sean Delonas shows two police officers, one with a smoking gun, standing over the body of a bullet-riddled chimp. The caption reads: "They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill."

The cartoon refers to a chimpanzee named Travis who was killed Monday by police in Stamford, Conn., after it mauled a friend of its owner.

Some critics called the cartoon racist and said it trivialized a tragedy in which a woman was disfigured and a chimpanzee killed. Others said the cartoon suggests that Obama should be assassinated. Many urged a boycott of the Post and the companies that advertise in it.

"How could the Post let this cartoon pass as satire?" said Barbara Ciara, president of the National Association of Black Journalists. "To compare the nation's first African-American commander in chief to a dead chimpanzee is nothing short of racist drivel."

State Sen. Eric Adams called it a "throwback to the days" when black men were lynched.

The Rev. Al Sharpton called the cartoon "troubling at best given the historic racist attacks of African-Americans as being synonymous with monkeys."

The cartoon set off a furious response against the Post. Its phones rang all day with angry callers. Protesters picketed the tabloid's Manhattan offices, demanding an apology and a boycott and chanting "shut the Post down."

Col Allan, editor-in-chief of the Post, defended the work.

"The cartoon is a clear parody of a current news event, to wit the shooting of a violent chimpanzee in Connecticut," Allan said in a statement. "It broadly mocks Washington's efforts to revive the economy. Again, Al Sharpton reveals himself as nothing more than a publicity opportunist."

The cartoon drew hundreds of comments on the Internet including at the liberal Huffington Post, where columnist Sam Stein wrote: "At its most benign, the cartoon suggests that the stimulus bill was so bad, monkeys may as well have written it. Most provocatively, it compares the president to a rabid chimp."

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs declined comment.

"I have not seen the cartoon," he told reporters aboard Air Force One as Obama returned to Washington from Arizona, where he announced his plan to deal with the foreclosure crisis. "But I don't think it's altogether newsworthy reading the New York Post."

It is not the first time that Delonas, the longtime cartoonist for the Post's Page Six, has raised eyebrows with a heavy-handed caricature.

An earlier Delonas cartoon made fun of Paul McCartney's ex-wife Heather Mills for having only one leg, and another compared gay people seeking marriage licenses to sheep lovers. In a cartoon last month, an enormous Jessica Simpson dumps boyfriend Tony Romo for Ronald McDonald.
 Quoting: mussen 383866


This is the same thing hitler did with the jews, but hitler was right.
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It balances up with the 'mericans are cowards' comment so who cares.
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darky is an illegal alien and was not on the mayflower

this is not his coutry neither is it the property of the dc criminals
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It was about Trevor that monkey that bit some old lady's hands off.

If blacks want the shot to fit, wear it............
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Besides which, it's called freedom of speech.

Protect everyone's right to be an asshole, so it can protect your ass.
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He does want to compare himself to Lincoln.

Civil War/Shot

If he wants to compare himself to a chimp thats fine by me.
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[link to www.bushorchimp.com]
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oh btw lincoln was racist lol, he didnt want blacks in america he wanted them all deported back to africa

READ UP AND LEARN ABOUT YOUR HEROES, YOU IDIOTS, BEFORE CONJURING THEM UP FOR YOUR RETARD ARGUMENTS

but TBH, people that are still stuck on early 1900s racist BS are morons. "OMG HE HAS DIFFERENT SKIN HE MUST BE ALIEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAH" <- this kind of people are brain dead that deserve to be put into asylums for their stupidity
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When I first saw the cartoon, it conjured images of democrats in the House and Senate jumping up and down beating sticks on the floor screeching, "Pass the bill, pass the bill!". It wasn't until Al Sharpton came on saying it was a direct comparison to a black president Obama that it ever crossed my mind.

I know there are people everywhere that first thought african american = chimpanzee, especially in relation to the famed stimulus bill, but it seems to me that this cartoonist is known for using his cartoons to hate on people... all kinds of people. For all we know, Sharpton (as well as many others) was giggling his ass off over the one-legged Heather Mills or the gay = sheep lover cartoons.
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oh btw lincoln was racist lol, he didnt want blacks in america he wanted them all deported back to africa
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He was right. And it's not racisr but nationalist.
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oh btw lincoln was racist lol, he didnt want blacks in america he wanted them all deported back to africa

READ UP AND LEARN ABOUT YOUR HEROES, YOU IDIOTS, BEFORE CONJURING THEM UP FOR YOUR RETARD ARGUMENTS

but TBH, people that are still stuck on early 1900s racist BS are morons. "OMG HE HAS DIFFERENT SKIN HE MUST BE ALIEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAH" <- this kind of people are brain dead that deserve to be put into asylums for their stupidity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618036


This shit is really confusing me...

On one day republicans will tell me that Lincoln was a republican and republicans freed the slaves to show us how republicans are the black people's real friend.

On the next day republicans will tell me how Lincoln was a racist and hated black people and wanted to send them all back to Africa.
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we called bush 'chimp' for years..., and now it's suddenly racism?


tsk-tsk...
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It's poor taste in making a joke about a horrid event that happend with a chimpanzee on Xanax and a woman having her face nearly ripped off.
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Poor taste, incredibly dumbed down comic, just like the dumbed down newspaper that it appeared in.
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i fail to see the problem or the outrage.
(OK, THE OUTRAGE IS JUST A DIVERSION FROM THE REAL ISSUES)

It is clear to me they are saying that the bill is so bad, a chimp could have written it. And, only a crazy chimp at that. That's it.
and, as a side note, Obama doesn't even write his own speeches...
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Mad as hell!

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I see it as insulting, which is not horrible.
It is extremely bad taste,
but to call it racist is quite a stretch.
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That is assuming you are actually dumb enough to think presidents write their own bills.

The cartoon is actually kinda funny and drawn by someone who apparently thinks that the stimulus bill was so stupid it couldn't have been written by anything else then someone who with as much brains as an insane chimp.
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More Jewish racism from the Jew Yawk Post
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Now this is the "fuck being PC" America that I remember and love. We need more shit like this.
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The correct answer is appalling and racist. For those who complained about the supposed double standard that nobody would dare compare Obama to a chimp like so many did with Bush, I give you exhibit A. Sense a difference between the two?
 Quoting: mussen 383866

So it's OK to compare Bush to a chimp, but as soon as someone compares Obama to a chimp it's an issue? THAT is a double standard and it's bullshit.





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