Illinois Bill Would Require Gun Owners to Buy $1M in Liability Insurance

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good find AC

Thread: Watch for more COVERT Behavior..... Gun Control...... Freedom of Speech

I've said it before and I'll say it again....Illinois is a commie state. I should know, I live here!

I think it's time to file suit against the state for 2nd amendment violations (like they give a fuck!).

What constitution? They have stripped it naked

Yep... going AROUND the Constitution..... that way... no one notices that you rights are being stripped.

WAKE UP Peopole.... it is starting to happen.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

[link to www.billofrightsinstitute.org]

this needs a bump and a

Oh yeah...pin, baby! Omega, Enigma ,MO and ET just have to see this!

Coincidentally, the first state to try and run this crap through is Illinois... didn't someone important come from Illinois...

Hunh. Usually it's Jew Jersey that pulls this sort of crap first.

Profits are no where in the constitution. This bill is a perfect example of business influence on politicians and a load of shit.

No, it's aggressive capitalism. Get the lobbyists out of government and then enjoy your freedom and liberty.

Pin please

I live in the Gestapo state of Illinois also and I believe that the FOID card is illegal because if you do not have one you can not buy ammo or a gun .

FOID : Firearm Owners identification card.

It is a way to deny a individual of their 2nd Amendment right to purchase and own a firearm or ammunition.
No card no ammo or firearm.

Now this insurance crap. The state must be getting kickbacks from the insurance companies or the politician who introduced it must be getting some good bribery dollars from a insurance lobbyist,.

How many will move out of the state if it passes?

dont let this slip under the radar today mods

It'll pass, and they won't be able to enforce it.

they don't have the man power to go to everyone's door to check. and there's places near the city where police don't dare go.

this is nothing but a way for people who think they're in charge to feed off of us

They may not have the manpower to enforce it, but when you register your weapon I'm sure that just like a car you will be required to have proof of insurance before you get your permit. And if you ever use an unregistered gun you will become a felon--even if you're defending your home.

They will use computers..

Just like they do now for auto insurance..

Thing is, Only Honest folks have Foid cards..

So only Honest Folks will get the insurance..

Won't change a thing for the OutLaw types..

Other words those who do the damage still won't
have insurance..

So this is just another money grad AND way to
backdoor "register" every gun in the State..


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Hmmm... and the current POS POTUS is from the most politically corrupt city in the most politically corrupt state.

Change we can believe in.

It is ironic that the author of the bestselling book "Freakonomics" - who is an economics professor at the Univ of Chicago - pointed out in the book that the actual statistics indicate that of 100 times more likely that a fatality will occur in a home with a swimming pool than in a home with a gun.

I wonder if the Ill. Legislature will require pool owners to buy 100 MM insurance?

Yeah, punish those blasted gun owners. We cannot have the corporations losing money.

Hey, and do not forget that Americans think the government is their god.
They think the 2nd Amendment gives them the right to own a gun.

See how dumb-down they are:
Thread: VOTE: Save your 2nd Amendment Rights

DaJ posted this on Thursday too Thread: 2nd Amendment? Pfffft! ONLY If You Have ONE MILLION DOLLARS In LIABILITY Insurance!

It is all the lawyers and corporations causing these problems.

Maybe the militia has to get the insurance too.

Here is where the states started to license the state militias...
Keep in mind this is after the 14th Amendment was implemented and when everything went to agency and license:

Art. XI. of the Military Code of that State, Act of May 28, 1879, Laws of 1879, 192. § 5. It shall not be lawful for any body of men whatever, other than the regular organized volunteer militia of this State (Illinois), and the troops of the United States, to associate themselves together as a military company or organization, or to drill or parade with arms in any city, or town, of this State, without the license of the Governor thereof, which license may at any time be revoked...

Under the law, this guy got indicted for bareing arms:

PRESSER v. ILLINOIS.
ERROR TO THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS.
Argued November 23, 24, 1885.--Decided January 4, 1886.

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The indictment charged in substance that Presser, on September 24, 1879, in the county of Cook, in the State of Illinois, "did unlawfully belong to, and did parade and drill in the city of Chicago with an unauthorized body of men with arms, who had associated themselves together as a military company and organization, without having a license from the Governor, and not being a part of, or belonging to, 'the regular organized volunteer militia' of the State of Illinois, or the troops of the United States."

A motion to quash the indictment was overruled. Presser then pleaded not guilty, and both parties having waived a jury the case was tried by the court, which found Presser guilty and sentenced him to pay a fine of $10.

The bill of exceptions taken upon the trial set out all the evidence, from which it appeared that Presser was thirty-one years old, a citizen of the United States and of the State of Illinois, and a voter; that he belonged to a society called the Lehr und Wehr Verein, a corporation organized April 16, 1875, in due form, under chapter 32, Revised Statutes of Illinois, called the General Incorporation Laws of Illinois, "for the purpose," as expressed by its certificate of association, "of improving the mental and bodily condition of its members, so as to qualify them for the duties of citizens of a republic. Its members shall therefore obtain, in the meetings of the association, a knowledge of our laws and political economy, and shall also be instructed in military and gymnastic exercises;" that Presser, in December, 1879, marched at the head of said company, about four hundred in number, in the streets of the city (p.255) of Chicago, he riding on horseback and in command; that the company was armed with rifles and Presser with a cavalry sword; that the company had no license from the governor of Illinois to drill or parade as a part of the militia of the State, and was not a part of the regular organized militia of the State, nor a part of troops of the United States, and had no organization under the militia law of the United States. The evidence showed no other facts. Exceptions were reserved to the ruling of the court upon the motion to quash the indictment, to the finding of guilty, and to the judgment thereon. The case was taken to the Supreme Court of Illinois, where the judgment was affirmed. Thereupon Presser brought the present writ of error for a review of the judgment of affirmance.

I knew where this case was going when the court cited these three things:

Presser was:

1) A citizen of the United States and of the State of Illinois (noted 14th Amendment citizenship, he is a legal entity thus controlled by the state);
2) A voter (he is in rebellion against his lawful government);
3) And belonged to a society incorporated under Revised Statutes of Illinois (a creature of the state, thus controlled by its creator).

One, Two, Three, he's out!

No natural or "original" constitutional rights, as he (Presser) was a creature of the State both in his person and being a member of an incorporation.
The 2nd Amendment did not apply to him: Arguing it was worthless.

The 2nd Amendment only applies to men. People have been turned into legal entities by the 14th Amendment and therefore controlled by the state.
The sooner people understand this, the sooner we get the states back from these usurping insurgents.


Learn more here [link to www.pacinlaw.org]

p.s. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment in the original context of the constitutional system was to protect the states from the government in regard to the militia. The amendment has nothing to do with one's NATURAL right to own a gun in his defense, and his country. The NRA is a fraud. Its job is to keep people confused under this system under the 14th Amendment, a.k.a. planned opposed resistance. See the post above.

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This is a 2nd amendment red alert!
This is not a drill, here they come.

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List of ALL the House Rules Committee Members where the bill currently is:

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Role Representative Party
Chairperson : Barbara Flynn Currie D
Republican Spokesperson : William B. Black R
Member: Gary Hannig D
Member: Brent Hassert R
Member: Arthur L. Turner D